I think Prilly is extremely insecure and angry deep down.she didn’t start to cry until Ass said they have been saying hurtful things about her, and again when she said they emailed I bad things about them(her). I think she has as many narcissistic traits as him.
Seeing Abbie act like this makes me think she knows exactly what she's doing.Ok, never saw that one! My heart was actually pounding watching this...que the camera on P a sweaty mess! Guys no wonder this woman eats, drinks,what a life, I’m thanking god for my life right now, I couldn’t do it either, Abbie def runs that roost
I would think so since she keeps doing them.Does she in all honesty think this is cute???
ImNosy - I noticed your Nature Valley Crunchy avatar.
Coincidence or tribute to a certain someone who's name we all know?
Could you rephrase your question please?Question for you. Given what you know about Abbie and her parents and what they do or do not do to help her...do you feel she could have been in an at least somewhat better state than she is now? And do you believe that better to try to teach her proper ex
Hotographer......I just love it...
she got all gussied up!
Very good point.I may be wrong here but to me using the IPad gets her results. Food, music, an action. Getting a spoon or fork is work.
YESSSS! Finally someone else on this forum understands! Are you autistic, or do you just have a family member? I absolute adore your profile picture by the way! I think that even though Abbie may very well have IDD, she could very likely have OCD from all the years of therapy. I mean, like I said before, Carly is a great example. Because ABA wants you to do something "perfectly" to fit in, and if you don't get your "treat" you get ignored, try to communicate your distress, and still get hurt, or you just get pushed to do it again. Also the heavy prompting takes away her autonomy, I've seen plenty of times where she's actually pushed other people's hands away but they still try to "help" and then they wonder why she gets so distressed. I'm not 100% sure on the OCD one, because I honestly don't know that much about OCD, but I'm going to read up on that later...I think your first paragraph explained everything better than my entire post!Very good point.
I wonder if it is due to the affects of the years of ABA therapy, that Asa loves so much (yet so many actual Autistic people hate and despise)?
Abbie seems to dislike and become anxious doing even simple tasks, maybe she does see everything as a chore? ABA therapy seems very chore oriented, even though there are "reinforcements" and rewards, it doesn't look as though Abbie enjoys their approach, to me. She seems to function in a mode like: being asked to do something = chore = restraint = frustration = anger = unhappiness + candy + breaks + treats
Somehow she has to try and get to the plus items, sometimes it means just doing the chore, sometimes it means tantrum or meltdown instead.
She is now has a horrible addiction to candy, constantly seeks "breaks" or "bathroom" as an escape, and used to meltdown, cry and/or run when she saw Brandi or her car, at the old house.
Even in the new house, I recall at the end of their holiday break, they were sitting on the couch and Asa told Abbie that Brandi would be coming in a few days...... Abbie looked straight at him and started pointed shaking her head "no" and her eyes looked fearful. I felt so bad for her.
Many Autistic people feel that ABA is abuse. Many families look to their children's response to the therapies and then try and decide what's the best for their children.
Is that what Asa and Prissy did?
I think that they enjoy the chore system and are hoping a day will come when Abbie can do all the laundry, vacuuming and dishwasher chores. Prisilly hates doing them and their laundry room from the old house until now has always been a mess, even though she doesn't work. Asa doesn't seem to do any chores around the house unless he's pretending to fix something. They also enjoy the break that they get when Abbie is at ABA school and in her therapies.
Needing a break, Understandable.
But is ABA the only option? Is ABA the best option for Abbie? I think that they should reevaluate that, and I am only just learning about these things.
Someone here recently mentioned being an Autism specialist and that at their school ABA was an option and that most parents didn't choose it.
Isn't it bad enough that they are exploiting Abbie on the internet for money and using her and "Autism" as a brand to get rich off of? They also want her cleaning their house and doing their chores?? I understand the need for life skills, but there are so many essential things being neglected regarding her (ex. communication, her obvious health issues, personal hygiene, sensory needs)
Is this why Abbie cries when she has to return home from being away? Is never excited about going to her ABA school?? Requests candy and break during and after everything she does? Is she equating everything to the ABA system she has been trained in??
I don't know, but I wonder. Can anyone give any insight on this?
Assy's arrogance and narcissim is so blinding that he can only see things in terms of what he wants and what validates him. He doesn't care how many Autistic people hate ABA, he doesn't look at how it affects Abbie. It was his decision to get her the ABA therapy and he is sticking to it because he is always right. The latest video about her loading the dishwasher without heavy prompting, had to become a "see I'm right about ABA" plug.
What else have they explored? Autism is different for each individual, her IDD is a big factor so one cannot make comparisons. However, it is interesting to see other families using simple schedules, calendars, amazing sensory rooms, the recent post here about the two twin boys with their unique therapy.....
All the money that Abbie brings in for them goes to DD, big meals and take out, vlog equipment, useless trips, a pyramid scam, Holly Lobby, big cars, an untrained live-in caregiver (Summer) that doesn't do any therapies with Abbie, only tickling and laughing AT her in my opinion.
Of course they didn't bring in a trained professional to live with them and help with Abbie. No, they found their match in a young lady who they know and can easily manipulate and train to do things THEIR way. Plus Sum-thighs-bum prances around half naked, loves the camera and is into their "show", that's gotta be a plus, right Doughboy.
What planet is this train wreck of a family on, they think that they are on track of success, they are on the track of failure and they are too arrogant to see it.
I agree with you! Although all autistic people need to make sure they find themselves a speech therapist who values AAC, not just speech (which from past videos, I think theirs did@cucumber If the question is:what could have A&P done better to help Abbie, when she was younger?
There is a lot they could have done!!!
I don’t know about the whole ABA thing. We never did ABA therapy with any of our 4 kids.. It wasn’t that I was against it but I wasn’t comfortable with my child going into a one-on-one setting, for hours a day, going through frustrations.. Back many years ago, they didn’t have home based ABA in our area and it was only offered that way..
I will say though, OT, PT and Speech should have been started when Abbie was 12-18 months old, when they first seen her not developing properly and she probably had a developmental delay diagnosis. That diagnosis would have covered her therapies, along with Asa’s medical insurance through the coast guard (or his VA benefits).
With these services, they needed to jump in and do the homework inbetween visits.. PT would help with balancing and coordination. OT would have helped with sensory issues, impulses, and even using her iPad or voice devices.. Speech would have helped with her sensory for foods, speech sounds and also using her iPad or voice devices...
At 3 years old, she would have qualified for early intervention services through their school district. If she went, they still needed to keep up her private therapies. It seems like when Abbie hit the public schools, if they had private therapies, they stopped those.. Public school doesn’t substitute what the private therapies can do... Also, when Abbie came to the shop in the afternoon, one of them, either A or P, needed to put down their shop responsibilities for the afternoon, done dinner with the kids and completed homework.. Abbie should have been going to the therapist offices in the afternoon and them working with her, one-on-one too... The room in the back of the shop, didn’t need to ever happen.. If paperwork needed to be done, like P did, close the front office at 5pm, take the kids and paperwork home, after the kids went to bed, stayed up and did it from home...
Also, your family comes first P... You can be the best person on volunteering in every group and heading each office that you want but at the end of the day, your house comes first and if it is burning down, you need to handle that first... It seems like she didn’t get taught that growing up...
From there, I could literally go on and on but gosh, just these small changes would have made Abbie be in such a better position than she is now...
Early intervention usually doesn’t start at 30-40 hours or shouldn’t... When our oldest daughter stopped all vocalizations at 2-1/2 years old, we started in on speech therapy. We started off with a combo of AAC and ASL, 1 hour, twice a week, with 3-4 breaks every session and I was in the session with her, learning what they were doing... I would sit back and quietly watched, take notes, use any hand outs and learned ASL at night, by books from the library... As she got a few months older, it would become 5 days a week, adding in more and more days... More breaks as she needed them.. As she got to be 3-1/2, we got her within a school setting, 30 hours a week of speech with a 1 hour break (30 mins for lunch and 30 minutes with NT children).. At this stage, she started learning how to control her voice and pitches and relearned how to talk, after our doctors at the time, never expected her to talk.. We continued with her private therapies though (she was also getting OT and PT, twice a week, from the age of 3)... We just cut back private speech to 2 times a week, when she started becoming more vocal.... This is fully with a developmental delay diagnosis too.. Our daughter’s ASD diagnosis didn’t happen until the age of 7 (educationally) and 11 (medically)..YESSSS! Finally someone else on this forum understands! Are you autistic, or do you just have a family member? I absolute adore your profile picture by the way! I think that even though Abbie may very well have IDD, she could very likely have OCD from all the years of therapy. I mean, like I said before, Carly is a great example. Because ABA wants you to do something "perfectly" to fit in, and if you don't get your "treat" you get ignored, try to communicate your distress, and still get hurt, or you just get pushed to do it again. Also the heavy prompting takes away her autonomy, I've seen plenty of times where she's actually pushed other people's hands away but they still try to "help" and then they wonder why she gets so distressed. I'm not 100% sure on the OCD one, because I honestly don't know that much about OCD, but I'm going to read up on that later...I think your first paragraph explained everything better than my entire post!*starry eyed emoji* (I'm on my laptop lol!)
I agree with you! Although all autistic people need to make sure they find themselves a speech therapist who values AAC, not just speech (which from past videos, I think theirs did)
And also just be super cautious with the phrase "early intervention" because often it can entail long hours (30-40 for a little kid!) and make the kid develop faster than they are ready...but I love your post too! Also the bit about Abbie crying when she saw Brandi, gosh I hadn't remembered about that, that's super sad and worrying that A$$a and P didn't pick up on that.
I doubt Ab has ever seen a dentist chair given how poor her teeth continue to look as each year passes. She's even missing a tooth (could be a few, but they would most certainly never talk about it), I remember Assa noticed it in a vlog and was so passive about it. It was just like, huh...a tooth fell out. lol lol lol oh well. It was semi-recent too, while they've been in the new house. So who knows how long it had been gone. But given her diet, those teeth will just continue to worsen, especially as she heads into adulthood because no flossing or thorough teeth brushing is happening from her parents.There has been talk around here about whether Abbie had even visited the dentist or the optometrist within recent years.
My dental hygienist cringes whenever she sees people do that stereotypical back-and-forth movement brushing their teeth. This pushes plaque around; as opposed to doing a sweeping down-off-the gums motion 5 or so times per tooth which pushes it off. Asa does the former with Abbie. Her sugar-heavy diet certainly warrants a trip to the dentist.
If they had taken Abbie to the dentist, I'm positive they'd have filmed it for content. The average person is supposed to get a cleaning twice a year. Cilla's teeth we know are in poor condition.
As for the optometrist, a user on this very forum speculated that perhaps Abbie was having vision issues. After all, Autistic people need glasses sometimes or contacts like the NT population does. Not every Autistic individual who squints is doing so for stimming reasons. Sometimes they legitimately can't see properly. If they had taken her to get her eyes tested, I'm sure we would have seen it.
I suspect Priscilla is afraid of doctors because they aren't going to mince words. They told her (was it before her surgery?) that they didn't approve of her diet. Instead, she just keeps on after a brief interlude of attempting to do better.
She reminds me of this woman who was a friend of my childhood best friend's mother. She was horrendously overweight, so much so that she couldn't fit in cinema seats, airline seats and broke the toilet seat at their home once. She too refused to see doctors because she didn't want them to tell her the truth.
This fear led to her early death. She started feeling very unwell with persistent symptoms, until she could no longer ignore them. It was Stage IV cancer. There was little they could do for her at that point.
Even when they do brush Abbie's teeth, it's not a very thorough job even using the wrong technique (from what they've shown anyway). I don't recall them EVER mentioning a dental checkup for Abbie. I think we all have a good idea that Abbie would not tolerate a dental exam very well. Even just to look in her mouth with the dental tools. Not saying this to excuse A&P - they do need to be taking her to the dentist.There has been talk around here about whether Abbie had even visited the dentist or the optometrist within recent years.
My dental hygienist cringes whenever she sees people do that stereotypical back-and-forth movement brushing their teeth. This pushes plaque around; as opposed to doing a sweeping down-off-the gums motion 5 or so times per tooth which pushes it off. Asa does the former with Abbie. Her sugar-heavy diet certainly warrants a trip to the dentist.
If they had taken Abbie to the dentist, I'm positive they'd have filmed it for content. The average person is supposed to get a cleaning twice a year. Cilla's teeth we know are in poor condition.
As for the optometrist, a user on this very forum speculated that perhaps Abbie was having vision issues. After all, Autistic people need glasses sometimes or contacts like the NT population does. Not every Autistic individual who squints is doing so for stimming reasons. Sometimes they legitimately can't see properly. If they had taken her to get her eyes tested, I'm sure we would have seen it.
I suspect Priscilla is afraid of doctors because they aren't going to mince words. They told her (was it before her surgery?) that they didn't approve of her diet. Instead, she just keeps on after a brief interlude of attempting to do better.
She reminds me of this woman who was a friend of my childhood best friend's mother. She was horrendously overweight, so much so that she couldn't fit in cinema seats, airline seats and broke the toilet seat at their home once. She too refused to see doctors because she didn't want them to tell her the truth.
This fear led to her early death. She started feeling very unwell with persistent symptoms, until she could no longer ignore them. It was Stage IV cancer. There was little they could do for her at that point.
She actually gulped w/ fear.If Dummer is planning to making a living looking after special needs kids. She is gonna have to learn how to get someone out of a freaking car! Not just repeat the same thing. Giggle and make stupid noises! Ugh!
I'm on a computer. lol Completely sober, thanks. lol I've got a lot to say **shrugs**.I can’t keep up with these threads anymore. Just tried reading through some & I keep falling asleep! I also have zero attention span for the lengthy ones. Are you people on computers? On any particular meds? Drinking wine? How in the world?! Anyway, I think Abbie will need a support (to respite) caregiver during learning hours that is a male & taller than 5’9” to keep her in line before long.
I wonder if maybe she felt it would be strange to be firm with Abbie in front of A&P? Really, A&P should have dealt with it and not let that awkwardness just kind of go on. I certainly would have spoken up when Abbie pushed Summer, in a serious way, not joking and playing it off.If Dummer is planning to making a living looking after special needs kids. She is gonna have to learn how to get someone out of a freaking car! Not just repeat the same thing. Giggle and make stupid noises! Ugh!
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