Children with IDD and Autism self-harm all the time. No one will bat an eye.Yes! It should be reported!
Children with IDD and Autism self-harm all the time. No one will bat an eye.Yes! It should be reported!
Kids/Adults w severe autism,IDD,etc self harm a great deal. The only time an intervention would happen is if the caretaker themselves reported it to a doctor,therapist,etc as a major concern.Yes! It should be reported!
That's true.Children with IDD and Autism self-harm all the time. No one will bat an eye.
Even if she can't understand emotions, or understand the way NT people express them, I don't think that means she doesn't experience emotions of her own. She experiences them on a more basic level and in a different way than NT's. That's how I see it. She may not be able to make the connection of "When Dad does this, it means he's feeling that.", but I do think she has her own emotions that she deals with.Sadly, I'll actually give Asa credit for being honest for once. Asa has said he doesnt know if Abbie actually loves them, and knows she doesnt feel empathy,and that does not understand emotions. She doesnt understand "feel" Its kind of like the crap with picking the weather in the morning...she has no clue. He guides her, or moves the camera so we dont see what she picks...she doesnt understand "sunny", she understands so little that they focus on just teaching her "wants" so she has at least some type of ability to communicate SOMETHING successfully. Like, yes, Brandy taught her "break" and "stop", but those are actions...she doesnt know the meaning of the actual word, just the outcome...rocking or stopping a task. She will never be able to do "I feel" because she doesnt understand "feel" and there is no physical reinforcer to make it click.
I am not ignoring content by anyoneI wish we could all watch together somehow.
That would be fun.
We could all yell at the screen together!!!
I agree. I never said she didnt have emotions, actually neither did they....was just repeating that she does not understand the concept, so they focus on things she can understand, which are things that she can learn by having tangible results, like candy, bath, or break. And I dont often defend them but as parents, if you even give up trying to teach your child "Mom" or "Dad", there is a reason for that.Even if she can't understand emotions, or understand the way NT people express them, I don't think that means she doesn't experience emotions of her own. She experiences them on a more basic level and in a different way than NT's. That's how I see it. She may not be able to make the connection of "When Dad does this, it means he's feeling that.", but I do think she has her own emotions that she deals with.
I used the example of Brandy teaching her "stop" because Abbie picked that up fairly easily (by Abbie's standards). It shows that she is capable of learning more signs than the ones they use most often with her.
I didnt see it either...so I need to find it too!Hey question? I’m trying to find the bit you guys were talking about in the pool where he was weird with Abbie?
I just tried skipping forward in the one where she jumped in the pool and it didn’t seem to be there nor in the live stream..?
I agree in concept, except she has always been a biter. Watch her. Even rocking on the couch she will clasp her hands and pull her arm to her mouth and yell. She is biting. Thats why when she yells/vocalizes really loudly when she is doing it, they push her arms down...the louder the yell the deeper the bite. And I think its kind of like potty-training, she does ok for a while and then regresses. Sometimes she just yells into her arm...then she bites again. Its sad.That's true.
The troubling thing with this particular self injurious behavior is, in my opinion, they are responsible for her being stressed enough to repeatedly bite herself until she drew blood.
Their vlogs document the evidence for my statement.
Before last week, Abbie was left to rock on the couch for hours unless they took her on a trip somewhere or out in the electric car.
They did not interact with her as far as we can tell, based off how she has regressed. This was due most likely to not following through with what the school recommends and/or with speech therapy or any other therapy she receives courtesy of the American tax payers.
Until they had to actually interact with her so that they wouldn't loose that scholarship money, she was an afterthought in that home.
Not saying what they did rises to the level of getting child protective services involved. It's just my thoughts on why she's suddenly exhibiting self injurious behavior.
They aggravated the tit out of her, put too many demands on her and it was all very very confusing to her.
IMO
Yup.I agree in concept, except she has always been a biter. Watch her. Even rocking on the couch she will clasp her hands and pull her arm to her mouth and yell. She is biting. Thats why when she yells/vocalizes really loudly when she is doing it, they push her arms down...the louder the yell the deeper the bite. And I think its kind of like potty-training, she does ok for a while and then regresses. Sometimes she just yells into her arm...then she bites again. Its sad.
Ok. I get what you're saying and while I agree that she doesn't understand emotions or NT displays of emotions and can't be taught complex emotional based things, I think there is still a possibility she can be taught some really simple things. As well as more action based signs so that she isn't signing "bathroom" everytime she wants them to do something for her or help her with something.I agree. I never said she didnt have emotions, actually neither did they....was just repeating that she does not understand the concept, so they focus on things she can understand, which are things that she can learn by having tangible results, like candy, bath, or break. And I dont often defend them but as parents, if you even give up trying to teach your child "Mom" or "Dad", there is a reason for that.
Me too, totally. But on the same hand, it also shows she doesnt really understand "break" as she should either, or she wouldnt be signing "bathroom" all the time. Man....so complicated! LOLOk. I get what you're saying and while I agree that she doesn't understand emotions or NT displays of emotions and can't be taught complex emotional based things, I think there is still a possibility she can be taught some really simple things. As well as more action based signs so that she isn't signing "bathroom" everytime she wants them to do something for her or help her with something.
For those talking about a haircut for Abbie, I found this older video of when they had her hair shorter and was wondering if this was the style some of you had in mind?
So me referring to a certain area of town as “the ghetto” shouldn’t offend anyone either right? That makes zero sense, labeling a group of people by what they live in or where they live is wrong period. Trash people are just trash people .....no reason to add trailer park in front of the word trash. And of course there is the sting of truth, the first home I could afford was a trailer that I paid lot rental monthly to have located in a park......Ugh not sure why I am bothering to explain, you don’t seem to be very open-minded!If they live in trailers and aren't trailer trash, then it clearly doesn't apply to them. Fathering Autism fans who live in trailer parks and act like white trash ARE trailer trash.
People dont get offended over stuff like that unless they feel the sting of the truth.
Yep, an overgrown toddler that bullys everyone around her. It is very annoying to see her behavior. I honestly have a hard time watching her without saying," my god, your ridiculous". Her family apparently likes to be bullied bc, they think all if her nasty behaviors are "cute" and "sweet", but, I guarantee you that the person she knocks out with her thrashing around isn't going to think any of it is cute or sweet. These folks most love it when she demands food all the time or constantly signs bathroom just so she dosent have to listen to their directions or attacks them when she sees that they aren't going anywhere right when she wants to go. They must love the yelling as well bc, none of these things are being addressed. The thing where they were sending her to her room lasted all but a few days it seems. I just can't listen to that tit and not loose my marbles. I'm sorry but, almost everything about Abigail and her family is either gross, pathetic or annoying.I agree, but she has such limited understanding, that if it prevented her from biting herself & going off the rails, then maybe there’s a time & a place for making it a teachable moment. Not defending them, but it was nighttime & hopefully they can take what they did there & really start working with her. All this homeschool stuff has really exposed what they don’t do for her. Every single day they should be working with her on sorting & fine motor skills. Priss throwing in a porcupine toy now is mind blowing. They should have cabinets filled with such items. Abbie is an overgrown toddler for sure. It is annoying to see her manipulate them.
Hearing her make more sounds as if she was trying to talk while on her way up to the kitchen was sad to hear, but they should also have her ipad ready at all times for her to communicate with. I’ll never forget how she didn’t qualify for a Dynavox, then a leghumper sent one at the tune of $7k. Abbie later broke it, which was part of the reason why the ins. wouldn’t cover hers. It’s obvious the Dr’s & teachers felt Abbie wouldn’t be able to use one & learn properly.
They have all kinds of learning and sensory toys from their fans and used to keep a toy box full of them next to the couch in the old house, but they dont have that now.Yep, an overgrown toddler that bullys everyone around her. It is very annoying to see her behavior. I honestly have a hard time watching her without saying," my god, your ridiculous". Her family apparently likes to be bullied bc, they think all if her nasty behaviors are "cute" and "sweet", but, I guarantee you that the person she knocks out with her thrashing around isn't going to think any of it is cute or sweet. These folks most love it when she demands food all the time or constantly signs bathroom just so she dosent have to listen to their directions or attacks them when she sees that they aren't going anywhere right when she wants to go. They must love the yelling as well bc, none of these things are being addressed. The thing where they were sending her to her room lasted all but a few days it seems. I just can't listen to that tit and not loose my marbles. I'm sorry but, almost everything about Abigail and her family is either gross, pathetic or annoying.
The toy box has been heavily reduced and is in her room, but I bet Ab doesn’t remember that they are up there. There is also the large ottoman in the lounge, where there are blankets etc, but seems seldom used.They have all kinds of learning and sensory toys from their fans and used to keep a toy box full of them next to the couch in the old house, but they dont have that now.