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I saw a dietitian recently online say when it comes to her kids, if they get fixated on say “Mars bars” she’ll actually create unlimited access to them and finds they usually run out of interest in a few weeks.

Knocking “treats” off their pedestal really does seem to help. I have that with dominoes pizza which would end up with ordering dominoes only to get pain due to the large amount of lactose/gluten.

I recognised this pattern and how it would not only knock me back in mood but literally gave me indigestion for days. So now I go every Monday to get a big slice (or two) of pizza at a really great place near me. It’s completely stopped my dominos fixation!!!
I use stuff that I used to crave as a treat now, if I fully stopped myself all together from allowing it then I'd find I would make myself sick binging on it, so now if I crave somthing ill tell myself OK Friday is treat night an I can have it, it's helped me be more in control with things while also allowing myself to have them without guilt
 
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I follow slimming world, and doing so I have lost 13st.

I have thought about stepping aside from it, but I honestly dont know what to do about it.

For the last 3 years, all I have done is follow sw to the letter. I've taken my own burgers to BBQs, my own packed lunch to parties... I'm not gonna say that sw has given me a bad relationship with food because anyone that was almost 28st and eating food out of the bleeping bin isnt on the best of terms with food to begin with.

Time and again we see people lose weight with sw, then stop and before you know it...theyre a
butter mountain again.
I've had 3 "off plan meals" (a term I bleeping loathe) in the last 3 years.. for the most part I've enjoyed it, I love cooking from scratch but being as honest as I can be, I am petrified of stopping and not knowing what to do going forward. I was sat in group last night and for the first time I said to myself, "why am I here, I dont need to be here anymore"

advice is welcomed 😊
Is it just you cooking for yourself or do you cook for other people too? I do all the cooking in my house and think my other half hates it when I’m cooking SW meals, he won’t say anything but I know he can tell the difference that it’s not cooked with proper oil etc 🙈 so find it easier to make myself one thing and him another which is just extra work for me 🤦‍♀️ wish I could just enjoy a smaller portion of my ‘proper cooking’ as he calls it but I always end up bingeing on it cos it tastes so good ie a proper lasagne compared to a SW friendly one.
 
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This sounds really interesting. Do you have any books you recommend?
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This is the book I think that set the principals

Amazon product

I will warn though that it doesn’t take into consideration Class, POC and different cultural needs/circumstances when it comes to food/diet. My Dietitian was firm about that but I forget the details. I’ve messaged her to ask for a refresh just because I want to pass along the best information
 
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Is it just you cooking for yourself or do you cook for other people too? I do all the cooking in my house and think my other half hates it when I’m cooking SW meals, he won’t say anything but I know he can tell the difference that it’s not cooked with proper oil etc 🙈 so find it easier to make myself one thing and him another which is just extra work for me 🤦‍♀️ wish I could just enjoy a smaller portion of my ‘proper cooking’ as he calls it but I always end up bingeing on it cos it tastes so good ie a proper lasagne compared to a SW friendly one.
You'll probably find its not that many more calories to enjoy a 'proper' lasagna.
If you regularly ate the normal lasagna you'd be far less likely to binge on it because it would become normal.
Just because somethings not syn free doesn't mean its instantly fattening.
I know its not home made but for comparison;
A sainsburys Taste the difference Lasagna that is full of synful cream, cheese and oils is less calories that the SW syn free ready meal.
Yes, its a bit smaller but I know which one will be nicer and more filling.
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Another thing to think about is you may eat more of the 'proper' lasagna but it will keep you full.
After eating your low syn SW lasagna you will likely eat other treats afterwards to get your 15 syns.
So you're probably ending up eating near the same calorie wise and enduring eating a SW recipe you don't particularly enjoy.
 
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Hey all! I have been lurking round the SW thread the last week or so. I’ve been back as a member for 7 weeks now after telling myself NEVER again! Classic repeat offender. I had a baby 5 months ago and within that time, I joined SW, quit. Joined Ww online, quit. Joined Munro Fitness, quit. Calorie counted, stopped & back to SW 7 weeks ago😳 I CANNOT keep doing this to myself and 100% do not want to pass this terrible on off dieting mentality to my daughter!

I near didn't go to weigh in this morning because I KNOW its a business model, cult, doesnt heal bad relationships with food etc but I did go as although I am using nutracheck to track calories the past week after lurking on the SW thread this week, i want to stay for the meeting as being weighed keeps me accountable. I am actually afraid to ‘do it alone’ as I know I just kid myself.

Anyways, I was over calories this weekend as I was at a beer and beats festival and then a nieces birthday. No big deal, didnt beat myself up about it and the other 5 days was well within a deficiet and went swimming twice and still managed to lose a lb. Was happy with that. First week of being calorie aware was a success in my eyes. The consultant singled me out and said I could have done better this week but said nothing to any of the members that gained! What the!!! I couldn’t believe it. It’s like she knows I am calorie counting! Ive lost 12lbs in 7 weeks… 8lbs of that was the first 2 weeks so after the initial water weight its been a steady loss… she said she wanted to give me my st award next week and i need to go back to my food diary from first week as I had 4.5lb off so i am capable of it… so basically pushing for a ridiculous amount of weight several weeks in… if it wasnt for reading the thread here the past few weeks i would be angry and upset when infact i have found it hillarious!! Absolutely crazy😂
 
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You'll probably find its not that many more calories to enjoy a 'proper' lasagna.
If you regularly ate the normal lasagna you'd be far less likely to binge on it because it would become normal.
Just because somethings not syn free doesn't mean its instantly fattening.
I know its not home made but for comparison;
A sainsburys Taste the difference Lasagna that is full of synful cream, cheese and oils is less calories that the SW syn free ready meal.
Yes, its a bit smaller but I know which one will be nicer and more filling.
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Another thing to think about is you may eat more of the 'proper' lasagna but it will keep you full.
After eating your low syn SW lasagna you will likely eat other treats afterwards to get your 15 syns.
So you're probably ending up eating near the same calorie wise and enduring eating a SW recipe you don't particularly enjoy.
So true! You think oh I’ve got 10 syns left and have an ice cream or whatever whereas normal food you’d be satisfied and wouldn’t have anything esle!

Big one for me is keeping my hands busy in the evenings (I’m an ex smoker so went from 20 a day to eating too much basically) I do a lot of cross stitch as well as card making. Can’t just sit there and watch TV.
 
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Thank you!!! I was made to feel like a little girl that the grown ups had to disciple. It was the opposite of body empowerment! I did try and explain I’m not on goal yet and I am small framed etc but she just tried to win me over by suggested I submit my new goal status (by I guess resetting the goal) to the weight watcher magazine (not in a million years pal).
This made me so sad for you. I cannot begin to imagine how you must have felt.
I had a similar experience back in 2019 when I was loosing weight very well (starving myself literally). I tend to be the Slimmer of the week almost everyweek.

The group I attended was full of older women mostly over 50's.
Bunch of jealous 1lb off 1lb on women.

Almost everyweek, as soon as the consultant finished her talks, there is this one lady that will just say "no need to mention who the SOTW is we all know" with a smug sarcastic smile . I hardly take the basket full of outdated tins mostly lol.

At the end i stopped staying for IMAGE therapy because of that woman. The leader was nice though and I think she knew why I stopped staying so she asked me to be coming to the morning session if I want. It was a lot better. I met 4 different ladies that stopped attending the evening class because of that Same woman I stopped.

I couldn't believe the leader is letting her do that to her clients. I mean that isn't good for her business. (Sw is a business)
 
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This made me so sad for you. I cannot begin to imagine how you must have felt.
I had a similar experience back in 2019 when I was loosing weight very well (starving myself literally). I tend to be the Slimmer of the week almost everyweek.

The group I attended was full of older women mostly over 50's.
Bunch of jealous 1lb off 1lb on women.

Almost everyweek, as soon as the consultant finished her talks, there is this one lady that will just say "no need to mention who the SOTW is we all know" with a smug sarcastic smile . I hardly take the basket full of outdated tins mostly lol.

At the end i stopped staying for IMAGE therapy because of that woman. The leader was nice though and I think she knew why I stopped staying so she asked me to be coming to the morning session if I want. It was a lot better. I met 4 different ladies that stopped attending the evening class because of that Same woman I stopped.

I couldn't believe the leader is letting her do that to her clients. I mean that isn't good for her business. (Sw is a business)
I guess they can’t afford to turn anyone away. I do think there was better ways to handle it. The leader could have asked me to think about my goal over the next week. She could have said “can we not comment on each other’s right to be here, everyone is welcome”.

The outspoken lady in mine was perhaps 30-45, it was very hard to tell her age to be honest. I do remember another woman (perhaps the oldest there) and a regular who was on maintenance for a long time did take me aside at the end and was kind to me. She said I think you’re looking great but it’s your choice where to stop. She then told me maintenance is it’s own challenge and it’s a long one so my journey isn’t over.
 
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I follow slimming world, and doing so I have lost 13st.

I have thought about stepping aside from it, but I honestly dont know what to do about it.

For the last 3 years, all I have done is follow sw to the letter. I've taken my own burgers to BBQs, my own packed lunch to parties... I'm not gonna say that sw has given me a bad relationship with food because anyone that was almost 28st and eating food out of the bleeping bin isnt on the best of terms with food to begin with.

Time and again we see people lose weight with sw, then stop and before you know it...theyre a
butter mountain again.
I've had 3 "off plan meals" (a term I bleeping loathe) in the last 3 years.. for the most part I've enjoyed it, I love cooking from scratch but being as honest as I can be, I am petrified of stopping and not knowing what to do going forward. I was sat in group last night and for the first time I said to myself, "why am I here, I dont need to be here anymore"

advice is welcomed 😊
I don't know what to say truly because I am still battling with my SW exit.

I have been dancing btwn 16st 2lb and 16st 6lbs for 5 months now. Trying to shake off SW from my mindset but also not wanting to gain all that I lost as a result of leaving SW it is bloody hard💔.

I have been over my calories by 200 atleast since January eating as i want and not feeling guilty for that. Yes the weight isn't coming off but I feel quite happy with myself now and slowly letting go off my bad relationship with food oke at a time.

I exercise alot however so may be that is helping me maintain this 16+ stone. I am hoping by the end of this year I can slowly start loosing the weight whilst been happy around food and not binging etc.

The hard truth is when you leave SW after many years, you Feel TERRIBLY LOST.
 
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I was first introduced to slimming world when I was around 13 years old. My mum told me that I could eat a whole chicken and as many muller lights as I wanted. I joined a group when I was 19 and failed. Joined again when I was about 25 years old and over 16 stone and managed to get down to 13 stone which I was happy with. I wasn’t healthy though. I would spend the whole of Wednesday (weigh in day) starving myself and giving myself enemas before weighing in and then buying a huge takeaway and large bar of chocolate or packet of cream cakes to binge on that night.

Then, unfortunately, I was raped and something inside my head was telling me “well if I was fat they wouldn’t have wanted to rape me” so gradually I gained my weight back and more. I ended up at 20.5st which meant I had gained a stone every year since I’d been raped and even though I hadn’t gone back to a SW group I had tried to follow the plan from home by myself. I eventually gave up in 2020 when I realised it didn’t work for me anymore.

I now do WW which I find so much better. I can have things I enjoy without the guilt - like white bread and it has taught me healthy habits like drinking more water etc. I am now down to 19st with a long way to go still so I plan on trying to get some sort of help for my binge eating/emotional eating and finally stop 20+ years of yo-yo dieting.
 
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SW works in the short term- I lost 2 stone on the plan in 2017- but I ended up putting it all back on and more when I finished. It didn't teach me how to eat correctly at all. Weight loss is about changing the way you eat for life, not just for a plan, and they don't teach you how to keep the weight off once you reach your target. I've now lost almost 2 stone since January just from calorie counting, and I love how much more freedom I have, I also feel like it's changing the way I view food and portion sizes.
 
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I dont know SW but do know Ww and I think the idea behind is that its not supposed to help you keep the weight off but for you to keep coming back.. makes them more money.
 
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I am so pleased we have this thread now, I have learned a lot about eating disorders through here and is interesting and you can relate it so much to experience.

I wouldn’t go into counselling mode as mine was more occupational and I volunteered more as a listener for the Samaritans and I never got any eating disorder cases from there.

My advice from my perspective is, if you have an eating disorder, Slimming World should not be the place for you. Having a social coffee and cake is not a syn and should never have any negative connotations. Slimming World I think has some good plus points and is good for a beginner for awareness but long term I think it shifts into a negative where socialising becomes a risk area of self sabbotage or going out for a meal is a sin or a crime because it’s not meals cooked with fri light. We have come out of a pandemic, peoples mental health are suffering greatly, we have a cost of living crisis and we have Slimming World trying to preach that social activity, eating out, attending parties and generally having enjoyment is somehow a sin. It isn’t right in my opinion.

The consultants at slimming world are only trained to the slimming world way and the consultants can be anyone picked up off the street or a self important instagram poster as we have seen in the likes of Erika Slimmingworld. These consultants have no mental health awareness, no nutritional awareness and no concept of what to look out for when it comes to an eating disorder, they are there to collect their £5.99 a week by whatever means they can and you are literally just a number to them.

It is my opinion of course. I am speaking from a personal observation.
 
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The problem with most of the slimming world and other diet cults is that they don’t address the most crucial thing. Why do you overeat in the first place? If you don’t find out why, and learn to handle the fact that you are eating your emotions, no diet plan will work long term no matter how much clever marketing language they use.

Also this bullshit slimming world promotes that ‘syns’ comes from the word synergy is absolute crap. They were heavily criticised years ago for promoting some foods as ‘sins’ and so simply rejigged the word and made up some marketing spiel to appease people.
 
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I lost 3.5st at SW a few years ago. I've since gained the weight back (plus a little more!). My feeling is that SW works whilst you're on it, but it can feel really culty and it's not easy to maintain long term. I hate the thought of food and drink being "sinful"!

I think a lot of people go to group for the social aspect but personally I couldn't stand it! Listening to Margaret every week almost in tears because she'd been "100% on plan!" but somehow gained 3lbs. The same people on the SW carousel paying their subs, gaining and losing by the week and never really getting anywhere! It's sad. 😔
 
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I have done SW 3 times. First time I lost 4.5st, mostly eating tit like mugshots and muller lights. Hated every minute of it, left after my weight loss plateaued for months. Group leader was a good 17-18st and in no way an inspiration given she clearly didn't follow SW herself. After that I regained most of what I lost over the next 2 years.

Second time different group, lost 5st, plateaued. Gave up. Over the next 4 years regained the weight again.

Third time, 2018. Yet another group. Lost 7st. Ended up the thinnest I'd been in 25 years. However by this point my eating was completely disordered. I can't blame SW for that because I wasnt really following it by then, I was doing my own thing, kind of SP with low carbs.

A typical day was
2 poached eggs and a third of a tin of beans. A piece of fruit.
Meat and green veg for dinner.
A Freddo and hifi bar as my syns.
I only ate potatoes and pasta once a week. No alcohol. I was also doing 3-4 gym sessions a week running 5-10k each time.

Then COVID hit. No gyms. Stuck at home. I started eating and haven't stopped really. I now weigh as much as I did in 2018, and I hate myself for undoing all my hard work.

Intuitive eating wouldn't work for me. I've been eating whatever I want for 2.5 years and gained at least 7 stone. I either have to be this size forever, or I have to commit to eating like I did above. There doesn't seem to be any other way.

I don't think SW helped. But my problems go back far longer than that, and I honestly think the only solution for me is to eat minimally - if I ever want to be BMI normal/ overweight again.
 
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Great idea for a thread. I’m an on and off SWer who has switched to CC but breaking the mindset is awful. I’m annoyed right now because my husband has been given a SW referral by the doctor. They hand them out to pretty much everyone who is overweight now. Our local groups are tit too. There’s one with a lady who lost a lot and gained it back, yet is still a consultant. And one with a consultant who doesn’t even properly do the plan. She lives on salads and barely eats carbs, and saves her syns for the weekend, which I thought was discouraged.

I follow a great insta account called weightloss_soulandcourage. I don’t follow their specific plan, but they post some excellent SW comparisons showing how you can very easily overeat while staying ‘on plan’.
 
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Great idea for a thread. I’m an on and off SWer who has switched to CC but breaking the mindset is awful. I’m annoyed right now because my husband has been given a SW referral by the doctor. They hand them out to pretty much everyone who is overweight now. Our local groups are tit too. There’s one with a lady who lost a lot and gained it back, yet is still a consultant. And one with a consultant who doesn’t even properly do the plan. She lives on salads and barely eats carbs, and saves her syns for the weekend, which I thought was discouraged.

I follow a great insta account called weightloss_soulandcourage. I don’t follow their specific plan, but they post some excellent SW comparisons showing how you can very easily overeat while staying ‘on plan’.
They used to do slimming world referrals when I worked for the NHS I really thought the NHS would have moved on from it now
 
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They used to do slimming world referrals when I worked for the NHS I really thought the NHS would have moved on from it now
Yeah sadly it’s still very much a thing. Even WW would be better. I mean, it’s a waste of money because it’s essentially calorie counting but with ‘points’ but at least they encourage better habits.

The NHS still gives a lot of outdated advice. My kids got some leaflet about eating well and it was all about swapping sugar for artificial sweeteners and choosing low fat options. I would prefer they eat small amounts of real sugar. And as for fat, I find full fat stuff leaves me feeling much more satisfied.
 
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