Eurovision Song Contest 2023 #4

[DanDanTheIceCreamMan]

I'd forgotten that awful Spanish entry had come dead last in the public vote. 90 point difference between the public and the jury vote. That's quite a gap.

The public and the jury seemed to agree on (10 points or less difference):

Israel
Italy
Cyprus
France
Serbia
UK

I hadn't even clocked that spain had come last in the public vote. I don't know what the juries were thinking with that one...

 

[DanDanTheIceCreamMan]

Dunelm getting some advertising in:

 

[Pipsy]

I'd forgotten how crap Eurovision is. Its social media that makes it fun.

 

[DanDanTheIceCreamMan]

The morning after and looking onwards to Sweden 2024:

Carry on tattling!

Results can be seen here: https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2023

 

[IndominusRex]

So much for that, hahaha.

I wonder how much if anything they get paid to participate. Not much info is available online other than their expenses maybe being paid. It’s no wonder artists end up doing ads and things, especially with streaming paying so little. Realistically, nowadays they have to do shows to earn money through music rather than rely on album sales. I expect it’ll be part of the reason why Sam Ryder has been everywhere. I respect him for that though - he’s clearly working hard to make music his income rather than taking the easy route and start shilling any old crap.

Based on his Instagram Sam has taken about 5 days off in the past year. I somehow can’t imagine Mae having the same work ethic.

 

[Cáca_Milis]

Midweek charts, Mae is #6, Loreen is #9 and Cha Cha Cha is #21

Pos	LW	Title, Artist	Peak Pos
1	1	MIRACLE CALVIN HARRIS/ELLIE GOULDING COLUMBIA	1
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2	2	DAYLIGHT DAVID KUSHNER MISERABLE MUSIC	2
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3	3	EYES CLOSED ED SHEERAN ATLANTIC	1
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4	6	WISH YOU THE BEST LEWIS CAPALDI VERTIGO	1
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5	5	CALM DOWN REMA MAVIN	4
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6	54	I WROTE A SONG MAE MULLER CAPITOL	30
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7	7	REACT SWITCH DISCO & ELLA HENDERSON RELENTLESS	7
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8	8	CUPID FIFTY FIFTY ATTRAKT	8
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9	New	TATTOO LOREEN UMG INTERNATIONAL	0
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10	9	AS IT WAS HARRY STYLES COLUMBIA	1
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11	12	BABY DON'T HURT ME D GUETTA/ANNE-MARIE/COI LERAY PARLOPHONE	13
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12	10	FLOWERS MILEY CYRUS COLUMBIA	1
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13	14	CHEMICAL POST MALONE REPUBLIC RECORDS	11
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14	15	WHISTLE JAX JONES/CALUM SCOTT POLYDOR	14
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15	13	GREEN GREEN GRASS GEORGE EZRA COLUMBIA	3
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16	39	GIVING ME JAZZY POLYDOR	38
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17	4	PEOPLE LIBIANCA 5K	2
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18	New	QUEEN OF KINGS ALESSANDRA UNIVERSAL MUSIC AS	0
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19	19	IF WE EVER BROKE UP MAE STEPHENS EMI	13
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20	New	ALL MY LIFE LIL DURK FT J COLE MINISTRY OF SOUND	0
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21	New	CHA CHA CHA KAARIJA WM FINLAND	0

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Mum or aunt? Her aunt Sophie is pretty legendary in the music world.

Isn't no. 18 'Queen Of Kings' the Norwegian entry?

 

[Yel]

I hope Mae does go on to get a career. Can see her presenting.

Must be so flat now it's all over after touring around Europe for the last few months with a busy schedule.

 

[HarmonicOlive]

I googled the lyrics to Finland. Basically about getting drunk and having a good time. There’s not much to them but the benefits of singing in a language very few other people know is as long as the music is good no one cares

He basically likes Pina Coladas and drunk dancing. Which I can relate to

 

[NowIsGood]

To be fair Ollie will put on SHOW and that's half the battle with Eurovision. No idea how he sounds live, but I do like his songs, so I think we're in a for a good shot!
MOD EDIT: 2024 thread here

Eurovision Song Contest 2024

Olly Alexander is a great pick. Finally someone who screams "Eurovision" and has a ready made fanbase all over the continent. We were 12s to win before the announcement and now he's been slashed to 11/2 with Bet Victor. We stand a genuine chance.

tattle.life

 

[Mrs Fluff]

Without the benefit of a few wines I've just looked at the Croatian song again and much as I love the daft entries in Eurovision, this traumatised me.

 

[IndominusRex]

I’ve found it interesting that none of the other acts have mentioned Mae in their goodbye to Eurovision posts. It feels like a lot of them have made good friendships there and she wasn’t one of them.

 

[Merpedy]

Solo did well with the public despite being on the same wave as Mae’s song and the Polish girl has been bullied the whole season because of some nepotism controversy and poor pronunciation which turned into a meme

The idea that the song was just too British doesn’t float at all

 

[DanDanTheIceCreamMan]

Eurovision will be in Malmo:

Malmö chosen as Host City for 68th Eurovision Song Contest in May 2024

The southern Swedish city of Malmö has been selected by Host Broadcaster SVT and the EBU to host the 68th Eurovision Song Contest in May 2024. SVT will stage next year’s competition following Loreen’s historic win in Liverpool earlier this year with “Tattoo”, becoming the first woman to win the...

www.ebu.ch

 

[kev1974]

I guess they either decided that Stockholm can't cope, or they actively want to use the opportunity to promote to Europe that you can fly into Copenhagen and then pop over to Sweden. A little bit of hotel trade and air passenger duty lost to Denmark might be well worth it in exchange for teaching Europe how close and easy to cross the bridge from Denmark to Sweden is.

 

[Yel]

In a contest where the top songs all featured sincere, straightforward messages about overcoming adversity and standing up for love, Mae's post-modern, meta-textual lyrics failed to find an audience.

They're not totally wrong, but it's so pretentious the way they put it across.

Yes it needs to be in your face what the message of the song is and no one will get it on one listen with barely audible vocals. Not about it being too British though. Dua with "new rules" and "I don't give a fuck" charted everywhere.

 

[StephenTJackson]

Oh my God, it all makes sense now why the had him sing Whole Again.

Just another reason why this was an amazing hosting job by the BBC.

 

[Jadejones9596]

Sonia

 

[Rockin' Robin]

I still say the result was a fix. I phoned the voting line, and voted for Israel but according to Graham Norton, I voted for Cyprus. Thanks for that Graham!

 

[Merpedy]

if they run out of hotels there you can stay in Copenhagen

I think this is sort of what makes it a bit surprising. Eurovision can clearly bring in a lot of money for the local economy and now it will likely be shared partially with Denmark

 

[Yel]

If she'd nailed the first two lines and they had text up hammering home the message behind it then it would have probably done a bit better.

The staging would have been good for an arena tour where people know the song. Not for a casual TV audience.

I think they expected it to do well like Israel with their Sia-type song. But that was vocally good and the meaning was obvious.

It's nothing unique to the UK doing well then going straight to the back next year, happens regularly.

If tap pick the next entry they need to cover the basics and get someone that can deliver vocally on an appropriate song.