Esme Haynes Payne

[Blueberrymuffin]

She’s back on Tik Tok…

Yep seen this and don't want to sound like a heartless bitch but.. to me she's just posted that to win back some followers who feel sorry for her. I cannot and will not sympathise with a benefit fraudster

 

[laylamich_]

If anything I have respect for Maisie to be with someone who’s having a baby with someone else and I hope he treats her nicer then he seems to have treated and strung esme along. I hope they can all get on in the future which I’m sure they will! I don’t agree with people stalking and hounding her they aren’t celebrities it’s just a tik tok poster who happens to posted her messy situation. I definitely think the video of her and Jordan that esme posted needs to be taken down though. It’s not only disrespectful to Maisie but also incredibly immature and embarrassing for Esme. And trust me girl one day you will look back and cringe about it

 

[Nixen]

She clearly has daddy issues of her own though so you’d think she’d want better for her own kids than whatever this fucked up “friends with benefits so i can claim benefits” arrangement is

 

[Bec3007]

She isn’t going to go far online if she keeps throwing her toys out the pram every 2 seconds

 

[imalittleyellowfish]

It’s the #singlemum for me. What a shit show

Esme must be so proud having an abusive assaulting prick as a baby daddy

 

[laylamich_]

I get it, she’s upset when she’s in a better place she will cringe at the video and regret doing it but it doesn’t look good on her part. The new girlfriends friend commented what about Maisie so obviously they are all aware of it now

 

[Suebigfatsue87]

Ooh she needed a thread! So what’s everyone thinking? She’s mentioned before about 16 hours a week so I’m thinking she’s claiming as a single mum but they are together

 

[fantastix]

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The only thing I think you missed is that Esme always said she wanted to give Myla a full sibling, long before they had their “one night” together where she happened to fall pregnant.

the obsession with the “full sibling” thing has always given me the ick, she sounded like voldemort talking shit about mudbloods

 

[imsohungry]

In fairness, all of this benefit dodging talk isn’t right? You can live alone and claim benefits legally and still be in a relationship with your baby daddy.

I also believe that if she lives alone she still has a right to call herself a single mum as the mental and physical load will fall to her. If Jordan has been with another girl, Esme is doing the majority of the donkey work for those kids.

I also would probably be a little hesitant to allow my kids to be around the Maisie/Jordan situation which sounds very very toxic. I do agree with someone else that it could have just been Jordan saying that to Maisie but equally if I was Esme and my baby daddy was being a hot mess with a relationship that is all over social media with threats and claims of violence I would also say “sorry pal but you’re going to have to get your ducks in a row before I can allow the girls to be in that situation”

I have 0 respect for all of them to be fair.

Jordan - We don’t see a lot of him in videos or things anymore, but in a way I think this is a good thing that Esme is now keeping their coparenting away from social media. She has maintained in previous videos he is still involved and still sees both girls. Clearly loves this drama to a certain extent having 2 girls “fight” over him. Comes across as a bit of a dick head for how both girls have portrayed him but we have also all made our own assumptions. We only see what we see from their socials. If I was him and Maisie had said I assaulted her and her friend but then she back tracks and said he never did I would not have gone back there. HUGE red flags…

Esme - Nobody can say she’s a bad mother. She isn’t. I’ve followed her account from before her following got big and the love she has for her daughters is second to none. I sympathise with being a lone parent as have been there myself, it is hard and can get very lonely. She has been naive with Jordan thinking they would have the perfect family in the end, one of them was bound to move on at one point it just happened to be him. And she always maintained they were just coparenting but we have all now realised her feelings were way deeper than that. She has acted very childish with the “time wasn’t in our favour video,” not going to lie. BUT - all that aside - she IS a good mum. Nobody can take that away from her. Again we only see what she puts on social media. But I feel the fact she hasn’t retaliated to Maisie with videos or anything potentially shows a mature growth here? She is clearly focussing on her daughters. With the way Maisie has behaved quite frankly I wouldn’t want her around my children either. But she doesn’t have the right to dictate who Jordan is in a relationship with. So I guess she either needs to be present for the contact or just trust in him that Maisie won’t be there if he has the girls alone at any point.

Maisie - At the start I actually somewhat liked her? She was clearly happy with Jordan as was he with her. However, some of her friends made videos which didn’t help the situation (Erin mainly) regarding Esme. Maisie included making videos which in my opinion would have been hard for Esme to watch but then at the same time Esme shouldn’t have been looking. She has proved her childishness with how she behaved with the tiktok video of “assault.” Assault is a HUGE accusation to make about someone, especially if that someone has children. Jordan seems in no way shape or form perfect, none of them do. But assault is a huge accusation and even out of anger, if you know no assault has taken place, you do not throw that accusation around. When she made her “apology” video if that’s what you can call it…I lost all immediate respect for her and can very much understand why Esme would not want her daughters around her. Maisie and her friends seem very quick to react to things without thinking about the long term consequences. Especially when she is on a platform that is very open and public and currently involved with a baby mums baby daddy in which said baby mum has rather a large following….

All in all, I think I now respect Esme the most out of all of them. She has made mistakes along the way, but this chapter of him being with someone else is new. Octavia is 3 months at the end of March. Since she’s given birth she has had a lot to deal with. Having 2 under 3 is by no means easy whilst also having the pressure of trying to maintain contact with your baby daddy who’s girlfriend comes across as being a bit controlling if that’s the right word. Maisie clearly has trust issues to think Jordan and Esme were doing things behind her back. As well as being able to so easily throw the word “assault” around which is HUGE for anybody but let alone when you have children. If Esme has said that Maisie can’t be around the girls then that does not mean Jordan can’t see his kids. Maybe they can have contact at her flat or go out together as the 4 of them so Esme can trust that she will not be present.

If she has said Jordan can’t see his kids because of his relationship and will not allow contact while he is with Maisie - that is wrong. And Jordan could take her to court for access if she has said that which Maisie stated in her video.

The three of them need to remember the girls are at the bottom of all of this and quite frankly with the videos that have been made recently I’m surprised child services haven’t been involved with safe guarding concerns. Not to mention Esme has openly admitted on instagram and on tiktok videos that she is struggling with her mental health. That does not give Esme permission to be a bitch if she has said the above to Jordan (regarding access) BUT we have a barely 12 week post partum mother of 2 under 3 here. Esme seems to be getting on with her life where as Maisie is trying to cause friction and it is not acceptable on any level.

So if the 3 of you ever read this - please remember them 2 beautiful little girls come first. Jordan should be pulling his weight and have set contact in place. Maisie needs to respect Esme and vice versa. Esme and Maisie have no need to communicate with each other. If Maisie and Jordan’s relationship is to continue that Is fine but respect must be given to Esme’s wishes and concerns around Maisie seeing the girls as she is the primary care giver to the both of them. Jordan and Esme’s communication should be solely about the girls and nothing else.

If that doesn’t work go to mediation failing that go to court and get contact set in child arrangement orders for both girls. STOP playing mind games STOP posting unnecessary shit on social media and REMEMBER to respect each other and PUT them 2 little girls first.

Period.

Here here.

 

[Smallpotato]

Omg HELLO didnt know this thread existed. She pissed me off from when she had the amazon wish list up and was giving her kid presents from randomers on a daily basis. What is that gonna teach the child? Has she made her tiktok private too? I still follow her mwHahahaha

HELLO THERE!!!!

I find the whole concept of Amazon wish lists for little children very uncomfortable and unethical.

 

[Fairypop]

I’ve never even watched this girl before but her TikTok hit my fyp and now I’ll probably keep up with the thread oh how her plan backfired

I feel like this happens sooo much I bet almost all of us came across tattle because an angry celeb/influencer/tiktokker sent us here.

I was never bothered by her until recently (baby number two announcement), she popped up on my FYP now and then and seemed alright. But to claim she’s a single mum then have another child with her ex doesn’t sit right with me. I have a long term partner who I live with, father to both my children and I’m pretty sure she gets more support than I do

 

[lalalulah]

Thing is she’s been caught out she could at least turn around now and say me and Myla’s dad are going to try and make it work for the new baby , rather than keep lying and lying.

 

[Smallpotato]

I don’t mean to defend Esme but for UC you get £344 as a single adult under 25 and then £282.50 for one child, the council pay your rent depending on your post code and 90% of the time only cover a certain percentage and then rest you cover out of that £626 as well as your bills and food etc. If a child is classed as having middle-high rate disability then you will receive DLA, carers and the council will cover the rent but myla won’t be so Esme will only get those two payments unless baby daddy pays maintenance.

That boy does not pay maintenance

 

[sparklingdee]

I dont think she expected this backlash tbh - she obv has a lot of young (eg: 13-17 year old) "fans" who think popping out a baby every year or 2 is something to be admired and that her and the baby daddy are SOOO amazing for it. I think when other adults 25+ started asking questions she realised it wasnt going to be all butterflies and rainbows. Dont try and be smug and 2 faced about it online Esme, thats what people DONT like. Like I said I dont wish any harm or have any ill feeling towards her - her child is obv very well taken care of, fed and looked after. But life isnt a fairytale where everyone online will nod and smile at every decision you make.

 

[loveulongtime0]

What I want to know is why has EVERYTHING got to be plastered over social media lately?? Two children are caught in this and it’s all over the internet for everyone to see. I’m disgusted with both sides here actually.

 

[hol20x]

Her dad sounds so toxic if what she says is true. And personally I wouldn’t want to move in with my boyfriend’s mum, I wouldn’t feel comfortable. There’s nothing wrong with getting a council flat, somewhere of your own to raise your child.

 

[Smallpotato]

This 100%! She needs to be careful; someone might report her seeing as her tiktok handle is her name too and every detail of her life is on social media.

I really like(d) her, I found her content sweet and endearing and she is a very similar mum to how I am, but I’m way in my 30s. I’m just shocked that she’s that good at co parenting with the dad that she’s having another baby. Then she’s surprised that tiktok audience aren’t happy and questioning her?

 

[ell73949032838]

Omg this is brilliant. She has been proper caught out there can’t wait until it all comes back on her and she’s done for benefit fraud! Silly girl Esme maybe stay away from TikTok as you’re digging yourself deeper into this hole !!

 

[Smallpotato]

I’ve just seen her recent video and a lot of people are calling the relationship strange, a benefit fraud… basically everything discussed in this thread. She’s said that baby daddy will be her birth partner and baby will have his surname.

There’s a great American tiktoker call ollierose_ who has just had her second child with her ex husband; they used artificial inseminaton at home as she’s said that having intercourse with her ex is not what co parenting is about!

 

[liv95]

So it goes from he’s an abusive pos to it’s all esmes fault.
What about Jordan? What about maisie?Yous aren’t at fault here? Having spats all over the internet and then going oh well we’ve sorted it out now. My five year old is more mature than this