Emma Drew #23 Love is a maze life is a riddle, pop me some cake and I’ll give you a fiddle

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If anyone wants to me to talk about it, I’ll happily discuss the issue we are having with BMI and patients currently.
 
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I literally can't wait to see the nope day(s) her getting the vaccine is going to bring about.

I also felt a bit perturbed on hearing they were getting the vaccine so early. I can't help but feel like anyone who can run their empire from home should continue doing so until all the people in essential jobs like supermarket workers and police etc have been vaccinated.

Technically, she doesn't need to leave the house very often at all (as she so well demonstrates), so she has another way to protect herself while all the people who do have to leave their house and constantly come into contact with people through their job are left exposed.

My company are happy for me to work from home for as long as necessary so I would personally be happy to do so until everyone with exposed jobs has been vaccinated first, as well as then the high risk groups who are working from home.

Just my two cents, I understand others will not all agree though.
 
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I'd like to hear please!
Yup me too - might spur me into action a bit more to make a few healthier choices.

But tomorrow is vaccination day and a whole heap of nope is incoming.
I forgot about that! Cant wait to see the inevitable meltdowns. She probably be the first person to actually catch Covid from it ...or at least make out like that’s what’s happening.

Come on Emma, prove us wrong. I dare you to go 24 hours without whinging or complaining even once!
 
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I literally can't wait to see the nope day(s) her getting the vaccine is going to bring about.

I also felt a bit perturbed on hearing they were getting the vaccine so early. I can't help but feel like anyone who can run their empire from home should continue doing so until all the people in essential jobs like supermarket workers and police etc have been vaccinated.

Technically, she doesn't need to leave the house very often at all (as she so well demonstrates), so she has another way to protect herself while all the people who do have to leave their house and constantly come into contact with people through their job are left exposed.

My company are happy for me to work from home for as long as necessary so I would personally be happy to do so until everyone with exposed jobs has been vaccinated first, as well as then the high risk groups who are working from home.

Just my two cents, I understand others will not all agree though.
I completely agree. She has no need to go out, could do click and collect food shops and other than that both can work from home. Those who attend work/hospital/drop kids off etc should be priority. She will have used the carer as a reason no doubt.
 
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I'd like to hear please!
Me too - I don’t fully agree with the whole BMI thing, because even at my lowest I was a size 8 but 11 1/2 stone and still obese 🤷‍♀️ But I’d love to hear someone’s facts and opinions who knows what they’re talking about
 
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I’d love to hear about bmi too! if anything comes from this thread it’ll be worth it as imma doesn’t give us much
 
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When I was nursing I always thought BMI worked best as a measurement if you were about average height. You can get odd results if you are very short or very tall.
On a different subject Emma is going to get all the affiliate links she can from her Etsy shop. The money is not coming from overpriced cat mugs.
 
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The police use BMI as part of the medical, so you would get super fit strapping muscley blokes who were over the BMI limit and therefore failed the medical! This was a good few years ago so hopefully they have moved on from this, or let the doctors decide if the applicant is fit or not if they are over the BMI limit.
 
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Same. I’ve been checking my BMI today 😳

In regards to Emma and Tony and the vaccine. My frustration is she’s had the tools for over a year to lose enough weight to get her below a BMI of 40 yet she has this chance pissed it up the wall within a few weeks of having the op. They went out and about despite being obease, diabetic and post surgery during a global pandemic just to go to places like B&Ms. She has filled her business Instagram with delusional crap, which has caused me to lose all sympathy for her. I just have no words for my frustration at her behaviour. Oh and she’s left an old man, with health issues she knew about with inadequate care alone for almost a year and is now using it for her advantage.
Not just alone but alone in a pandemic where getting him the help required would be nigh on impossible, lots of supported care (day centers) having to close, even longer waiting lists, staff shortages, inability to be assessed due to lockdowns etc, potentially without his boxes for extra help because she needed it and if he got admitted to hospital he'd be in danger of catching covid.

Got another award for you Emma : daughter of the year.

Take a fecking bow!
 
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Me too - I don’t fully agree with the whole BMI thing, because even at my lowest I was a size 8 but 11 1/2 stone and still obese 🤷‍♀️ But I’d love to hear someone’s facts and opinions who knows what they’re talking about
Im sure everyone knows by now that I’m an ICU nurse and I’ve worked through both waves, and this one is DEFINITELY worse, and this is down to people becoming more lax in their rules and still socialising.

We class obesity as part of past medical history. I disagree with this entirely as so many other medical professionals, as it feels like everyone is obese as BMI doesn’t really mean tit. The issue with obesity with COVID is the proning. Proning is when we roll you and you lay on your tummy for up to 16-18hrs. Proning takes around 8 people to flip and it’s really hard when you are proning someone who not only is above 5ft7, but above 110kgish. We have to lie you on your side, and then lift you to get you on your tummy and it’s really hard on your back. You have to get this move right as you need this once chance to get them proned.

the manoeuvre isn’t the issue, the actual proning is. You have a lot of weight around the chest and it causes the lungs and heart to work harder, especially if you’re proned.

also some medication is dosed by weight, so if you’re above 100kg you will need a bigger dose.

although we have noticed more obese patients this time around, they are not dying quicker than let’s say an “average” sized person. I had 6 deaths last Monday, one was a patient who was 135kg and that was their only past medical history. They were 40s. However the patient next to them was 50s, and they died too. The patient in the side room was of the BAME community and in their 50s and died. But the patient who weighs 120kg and is 5ft is making improvements, and is being discharged to rehab this week.

What I’m trying to say is that it’s luck of the draw. The person in their 40s who died shook the entire unit as they hadn’t even had any hospital admission in their lives. We have seen people die who really shouldn’t, and others who survived. We had a patient of the BAME community and obese, who arrived in A&E with oxygen stats of 22% (you are usually 100%!) and they were discharged today!

Yes, Emma and Tony are at risk as they are fat and in their 30s. But so is my Dad, who is a low BMI but an asthmatic. My issue with them being offered the vaccine is NOTHING to do with their weight, it’s my own selfish jealously that I can’t hug my Dad after a year as he is patiently waiting the vaccine.

The police use BMI as part of the medical, so you would get super fit strapping muscley blokes who were over the BMI limit and therefore failed the medical! This was a good few years ago so hopefully they have moved on from this, or let the doctors decide if the applicant is fit or not if they are over the BMI limit.
The police are so strict. I applied as a young woman (like early 20s) and was denied on my asthma and eyesights!
 
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Im sure everyone knows by now that I’m an ICU nurse and I’ve worked through both waves, and this one is DEFINITELY worse, and this is down to people becoming more lax in their rules and still socialising.

We class obesity as part of past medical history. I disagree with this entirely as so many other medical professionals, as it feels like everyone is obese as BMI doesn’t really mean tit. The issue with obesity with COVID is the proning. Proning is when we roll you and you lay on your tummy for up to 16-18hrs. Proning takes around 8 people to flip and it’s really hard when you are proning someone who not only is above 5ft7, but above 110kgish. We have to lie you on your side, and then lift you to get you on your tummy and it’s really hard on your back. You have to get this move right as you need this once chance to get them proned.

the manoeuvre isn’t the issue, the actual proning is. You have a lot of weight around the chest and it causes the lungs and heart to work harder, especially if you’re proned.

also some medication is dosed by weight, so if you’re above 100kg you will need a bigger dose.

although we have noticed more obese patients this time around, they are not dying quicker than let’s say an “average” sized person. I had 6 deaths last Monday, one was a patient who was 135kg and that was their only past medical history. They were 40s. However the patient next to them was 50s, and they died too. The patient in the side room was of the BAME community and in their 50s and died. But the patient who weighs 120kg and is 5ft is making improvements, and is being discharged to rehab this week.

What I’m trying to say is that it’s luck of the draw. The person in their 40s who died shook the entire unit as they hadn’t even had any hospital admission in their lives. We have seen people die who really shouldn’t, and others who survived. We had a patient of the BAME community and obese, who arrived in A&E with oxygen stats of 22% (you are usually 100%!) and they were discharged today!

Yes, Emma and Tony are at risk as they are fat and in their 30s. But so is my Dad, who is a low BMI but an asthmatic. My issue with them being offered the vaccine is NOTHING to do with their weight, it’s my own selfish jealously that I can’t hug my Dad after a year as he is patiently waiting the vaccine.



The police are so strict. I applied as a young woman (like early 20s) and was denied on my asthma and eyesights!
Thank you for this, I also thought if you were fat with health issues you’d be more high risk than say me who’s just gained weight in lockdown 😂. I am the oddest shape, I’m 3 sizes smaller on top than the bottom so I’m always ‘obese and overweight’ bevause I have a massive arse and legs, yet a relatively flat stomach and tiny boobs. The doctor always makes me feel tit about it lol. But I guess if you’re a classic Apple like Emma, you’re at more of a risk due to the mass up top
 
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Thank you for this, I also thought if you were fat with health issues you’d be more high risk than say me who’s just gained weight in lockdown 😂. I am the oddest shape, I’m 3 sizes smaller on top than the bottom so I’m always ‘obese and overweight’ bevause I have a massive arse and legs, yet a relatively flat stomach and tiny boobs. The doctor always makes me feel tit about it lol. But I guess if you’re a classic Apple like Emma, you’re at more of a risk due to the mass up top
Precisely. We really struggle with big breasted ladies as all that breast tissue is stopping a good prone. Same with men with big tummies.

I personally haven’t noticed an issue with obese patients, no more so than BAME patients, diabetics, asthmatics. It’s honestly down to sheer luck.
 
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I’m surprised Imma doesn’t have a mobility scooter. She’d be one if those people who’d bulldoze everyone out if the way in B+M just to get to the snackies
Can you imagine....

Get that bread, get the head, then leave....then leave vrrrroooooom 👩‍🦼👩‍🦼👩‍🦼

(So sorry that's the only pic I could find, no offense intended)
 
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Emma won’t understand her privilege or just how lucky she is to get the vaccine tomorrow. She will be back to finding ways to minimise her tax liability and milking the system for what she can.
 
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My dad (66) had the Pfizer one today, so far just a sore arm where it went in...we shall see how he is tomorrow, hopefully not to bad:)

You're not wrong, my sister in laws surgery gets 48 hours notice that they'll be getting some and usually how many (usually incorrect figure) and they have to tell people and hopefully get enough available to come to use it up because otherwise it has to be wasted if any is left over.

[If anyone's interested, I had the AstraZenica (Oxford) at 10.10am Friday. Over the next hour I had a fever that thankfully went as soon as it came but by 12.30pm I hit a wall and physically couldn't carry on and had to sleep there and then, it was incredible just how tired out of nowhere and I had chills whilst trying to get to sleep (again that thankfully went as soon as they came - lasted about half hour). After 2 hours sleep I was absolutely fine for the rest of the day. Mum had no reaction at all but hit the wall of exhaustion about 7.30pm and went to sleep for the night.

Saturday we both woke with a killer headache that lasted all day. Thankfully that's all mum had. I had a large red swollen lump under my arm where it had gone in and muscle and joint aches and the tiredness for most of the day. Thankfully about midnight I started to really pull round and Sunday you'd never know anything had happened other than the large red patch on my arm (SOITCHYOMG) and the lump underneath. Today (11pm Monday) it's still just the red hot swollen lump under my arm - Feel fine)

The reason I've written this bit is to say I really hope that each and everyone of you reading this has no reaction whatsoever but do go into it with your eyes open and don't plan anything in stone for the day/day after as you may just need to sleep - I cannot say enough just how you literally get hit by a wall of tiredness if it happens to you and everything feels like you're wading through cotton wool and your brain just 'nopes!'. Give yourself a couple of Imma nope days post vaccine just incase!

Also interestingly from a little bit of reading apparently the AZ one is giving more reactions than the Pfizer one which I'd be interested to hear if your reactions are the same :) ]
 
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Omg this woman really is an absolute horror isn't she? Why publicly shame your husband like that? Also why make out you're like an elderly woman in a care home who needs to be given her medication? You're a grown woman, sort your own fecking medication out you imbecile.

Also re her previous story before this one, what the feck is the 'Popo'? I take it you mean the Police? Grow up you idiot.
I said exactly the same to my friend! Like how condescending. I feel like she’s trying to empower herself rather than encourage him!

actually feel sorry for him!
 
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Just seen Emma’s IG. Two things.

the ps5 pallet video was a fake, and has been debunked loads. Stop it.

Emm has ALWAYS resented that she is the main breadwinner between her and Tony, and Tony actually does very little work
 
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