There are days where I think it would be easier to ignore them and let them shout into their ECHO chamber. There is really no reasoning with them, and well arguing with crazy...
But then they hold up people considered to be knowledgeable and respectable, and it does worry me. I feel like they should be held legally liable should anyone found to follow them die as a result of poor decisions or misinformation made by 'influencers'. They are out there bleating about the vaccine companies not being held liable, but don't have any problem saying what they want. Want the government sued for their public health media campaigns, etc. yet probably wouldn't want legal responsibility back on them and you cannot expect to have a following of tens or hundreds of thousands and hold no liability for misinformation (and I'd actually love EG to be looked into legally RE: The Cancer Act).
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They're holding up a band 5 'bank' nurse from the tiny place that is Oban as an amazing source today! In the politest possible way, nurses have skill sets and knowledge in various areas, but a band 5 is definitely not an infectious disease specialist nurse, virologist, etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if she has seen some closed wards and a lot of empty beds, the argument was never that hospitals have absolutely no beds left. The aim was to stop it ever getting to that point. The issue was with ICU beds and most hospitals having to increase capacity there by creating icu beds that didn't exist, and the problem isn't physical beds, but the nursing staff available to do what is an extremely skilled job that not all nurses can do. It was about not completely filling wards to the point there are no beds at the risk of increasing covid admissions, but also trying to keep areas safe for patients admitted acutely unwell, needing urgent surgery or been involved in trauma. You need to try as hard as possible to make sure that in-hospital transmission is as low as possible and that involves having empty beds. They shout about cancer care, etc. well for the surgeries to continue that were necessary you need to know there are safe places to send them back to! You cannot have someone go through hours and hours of surgery with no critical care bed to go back to, or at least a ward bed that you know any potential positive case can be managed with and isolated quickly. You cannot risk having wards filled with immunocompromised patients in if not seriously ill, so a lot of their treatment was having to be managed in other ways.
I had an investigation done a few weeks back that I was admitted for the day before last time a couple years ago. This time I was advised to do as much as possible myself at home prior (my background allows for that, but assume to varying degrees that is how other patients are being managed too). My elective surgery that was going to be done last March has still never been rescheduled (again would have had stays in hospital), so empty beds. Patients that may have been admitted overnight for results from A&E, etc. are being sent home if stable enough with advice to return if there are problems. Patients that may have been admitted for a few days of IV antibiotics for infections, if well enough, aren't being kept in but accessing nursing service at home or coming back for an hr or 2 a day to day units.
So it was never about wards and beds being full, but making sure hospitals could cope with critical care surges (and then the step down of these patients!), and not being able to safely have these patients mix with their typical patient-types, nor managing to have the capacity to deal with COVID alongside ALL normal activities. The NHS didn't close as many services down this time, I've had a lot of out patients stuff done in the last few months that were cancelled during the initial lockdown, but they have a responsibility to manage patients not catching infections. This lot would be the first to shout if a relative was in hospital and caught and became ill with c.diff, MRSA, Flu, norovirus, etc. and not managing infection transmission between patients in hospitals ends up with fines and potentially lawsuits.
All I can say is I hope this lot are happy to give up their NMC numbers too. I really want the NMC to take a dim view of the nurses that are shouting about vaccine toxins and face coverings but are about to return to wearing masks to literally inject toxins under the guise of 'aesthetics'.
even she doesn’t believe the utter dross she spouts