Eastenders #29 Denise's D is buried with Keanu, while Jack's burying his D in Stacey

[Scotch Mist]

Okay I'm pissed on two glasses of wine bit whats Johnny's game? Is he in cahoots with Janine? No-one will convince me he has Linda's best interests at heart. I believe Denise when she says he's the Devil! I'm off to bed now xx

Here's Johnny!!

 

[Scotch Mist]

And the 2012ish waterfall cardigan with skinny jeans look is so dated. It’s very frumpy as it looks like she’s trying to cover something, but she’s average size.

If we're discussing clothes..... my daughter came in while I was watching EE yesterday, stared at Linda then said "why is she dressed like a little girl?

 

[LittleMy]

I remember watching eastenders as a child with my parents, can’t say any of it ever particularly scared me but my god if I was watching a literal ghost on screen and talks of people working for the devil I wouldn’t have slept again

I remember being heartbroken when Frank run over Tiffany at Christmas. I was only 9 at the time but I was devastated, such was my investment in EE

 

[Timz]

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[Scotch Mist]

You can see where why Gloria said to do anything, I’m not condoning murder at all, but she was desperate to keep her son and mothers will do anything for their kids (even murder) Eddie is still an old racisit

Yes I know mothers would do anything to keep their kids but she allowed her husband to murder an innocent man which is shockingly awful and makes her nearly as guilty as him.

 

[Livid2020]

I would do anything for the child I had loved and raised to not be taken away from me, that’s a fact. I spoke to my husband and he agreed he would kill if necessary for our baby. I know it’s not right, but it’s just how it is for some parents. I cannot judge Gloria for that.

It's not her child she was trusted and paid to look after him temporarily, they knew the deal before they entered the agreement. They took advantage of his birth parents plight. The saddest part is that this would have actually happened (and probably loosely based on a true story). They felt they were entitled to something that ISN'T theirs. Your example states your own baby. They lied to George his ENTIRE life - about where he came from and who he is, thats CRAZY.

POC were being taken advantage of in every way possible - do you really think George's parents would have wanted to give up their son?? They did 'whatever it takes' for their sons upbringing which resulted entrusting their child to Gloria. They thought doing so would allow George to have a better quality of life and did so out of love for THEIR child but instead ended up dead and with George being racially abused his entire life. They also had 'mothers' love and made the ultimate sacrifice in giving up their baby temporarily.

They were taken advantage of from the very beginning for simply being black and murdered to fit Gloria's very selfish needs. They raised George in a racist environment grooming him to fight and be aggressive in order for him to feel wanted. The audacity to use George as a character witness, I just can't. They're vile people through and through.

You mentioned you have a baby, if someone was looking after your baby as maybe you were unwell for a while or something and they refused to give your baby back as they grew a bond - how would you feel?! And then they decide its ok to take your life and their raise your baby to not know anything about you or your family or your heritage. And then for your child to not feel loved or wanted and hearing constant jokes for the colour of his skin that he was born with. How would you feel?

Just cos you and your husband agree doesn't make it acceptable. It shows, on a personal level, your questionable moral compass. If you could look the other way for Gloria doing what she did, you would have been part of the problem back then.

I don't think there's much more to say on this, I'd like to think most people think murder (in any situation but especially this) is not the answer. You and I have very different opinions on this and I'm glad I don't know many people with your opinion in real life.

 

[hollymoox]

Which reminds me.... when is St Lola's photo going to be removed from the Vic?

She's not one of their relatives, it's totally unnecessary that her photo remains on display. It's a pub not a garden of remembrance.

I think Lola did incredibly well with the cancer storyline but she wasn’t even remotely an iconic character beforehand so I don’t understand it either, the impact of her death should still be shown through lexi, billy etc but lola herself should not still be made as big of a deal as she is

 

[Jackie Brown]

I actually like the inclusion of Johnny Carter in this Six storyline. Yes, his mouth is distracting. But he's brought an interesting arc to a flagging storyline that had already peaked and gone off the boil by New Years day!
He is quite ruthless and calculating and he will throw whoever under the bus in order to protect Linda. Very cutthroat. It's interesting to see which way he'll turn next and the cogs are always working in his mind.

A delayed reaction, but I agree with the theory that this psychosis storyline must have been meant for Sharon / Letitia but she had to suddenly go on leave. So Denise got the storyline...it doesn't make sense as to why Denise would be the one to crumble (possibly the necklace) but she's doing a great job nonetheless. I have witnessed a friend going through such episodes and she has it bang on. Just waiting for Jack to actually take some ownership and take her to a mental health specialist.

 

[Miss.Chanandler.Bong]

Someone said on here recently that Alfie’s been leaving all week. It’s Friday and he’s still talking about leaving

 

[Dr Karen Kim]

I thought that the Gina and Anna scenes were less effective because why wouldn’t Gina have said this to her sister before?
If it was me I would have constantly mentioned it to her not saved it up for a rainy day, but that's a minor criticism of an excellent episode.

I totally get where you are coming from, I genuinely don’t think she would have ever said anything if she wasn’t pushed by Anna to admit it. I also don’t know where they could have put this conversation if not in this episode as in a normal episode, there’s so many other distractions, like the 6, Whitney, Ben, it would take away from the hard hitting experiences that were shared.

I think it’s a very difficult thing to say to someone. It’s something that I have seen and experienced sadly and I think it’s a complex subject when talking about race but from what I have seen and experienced Gina’s points sadly were true.

 

[MeghanSnarkle]

Is he coming back as a ghost as well

Christ that's all I need to see another bloody ghost
Mick wandering around now looking like something from Davey Jones locker dripping water everywhere

 

[AdApathy]

I wonder if Dee starts to wrap her hands around her neck but imagine it’s canoe choking her… it would be like the end of Dallas!

omg imagine if this is all Sharon's dream, while she's in a coma after Keanu strangled her.
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The actor who plays Keanu has as much EE work now as when he 'left'.

It's giving contractual obligation

 

[Beverley Macker]

Jack is such a cock I genuinely want Denise back with Lucas .
He’s just a better guy.

 

[blueblue]

Gloria mentioned to Elaine that she felt Eddie would always "want to give him back" if she fell pregnant but she would never have agreed. But then Gloria also says, "Eddie likes you more than Cindy" to show she has a manipulative side. So I wonder if that will come into his defence as she said to him to do whatever it takes.

Stephen Lawrence should be a 30 year old by now.

 

[AdApathy]

Were does Lucas get his info on the square residents to know who Denise is talking about and how has he got peoples phones numbers? He has been away for years

I literally shouted at the telly HOW DO YOU HAVE HIS NUMBER, LUCAS!!

 

[pommynoir]

Todays episode had me crying. Very well done. Although I’m glad that she’s in the hospital now as I found it all a bit heavy and was getting a bit scared with all the devil stuff.

 

[Jon9090]

Lol

 

[D_Wills]

You only have to watch any modern police show to know that most crimes are solved with cctv nowadays. The thought of the 6 carrying keanu in that tarpaulin across the square on Christmas night without anyone or any camera seeing is too funny.

 

[gigilouxx]

I agree with previous comments about how good Diane Parish is with this psychosis storyline. Especially when you compare it to Jean, worlds apart.

I'd like Lucas to come back now and look after Denise, I think it's time for his rehabilitation arc, serial killers can change, he's a good man!

Exactly free Lucas he didn’t even do anything

 

[Blueblue123]

I thought Denise was just freaking out, I didn't realise she was experiencing psychosis!

George just standing there like a wally as Denise ran around the place was hilarious.

I also think Johnny is up to something and possibly has the weapon, but I have a feeling Dean is involved because I think there's more to him being at the Vic that night.

Kathy is so silly for discussing Keanu in front of Johnny though even if it was "good news".