@Some People! similar situation except it’s my bosses daughter. Sits on her phone all day, not proactive. Won’t even answer the phone, can’t compose emails without my help (she’s 21!) Can’t tell my boss cos he’ll fly off the handle. We don’t have a HR department… It’s a family run business.
At least she's only mugging off her dad, but it sucks that she makes work for anyone else. I guess she's in the role because the family know she's completely unemployable. Hate this for you.
In my experience this will not go well for you. The fact is it has no effect on you other than being demoralising.
The meeting went fine. Turns out they've had someone from the organisation in to talk to them every day this week about her (!!). I bought up some stuff which was super concerning to them that they were as yet unaware of.
The early outcome is that she's now being closely monitored by a couple of senior managers, which I'm glad of.
Longer term outcome will depend upon the head of HR's thoughts tomorrow and the colleague's manager's thoughts when she returns from AL next week.
As shitty as it is, I don't think going to HR will do anything positive here, but it could be harmful for you in the longer run. Even though that coworker doesn't do the job and is a burden on the team, as long as you can't bring prove and have the manager back that all up, it'll essentially come of as winging (which HR will tell you to take to the manager) or, in the worst case, as a case of bullying. Letting it go honestly is the option here. Can't tell you how to go about that, I'm trying to find my own way into that
I'm so pleased to report that HR were receptive and understanding and glad of the Intel. They've actioned some steps already and will be offering support to her manager from next week. Thankfully I wasn't so irate, so I was able to make a good case for my own objectivity. I'm just one of a chorus of voices against her at this point, so hopefully something will change.
I already feel more able to let all the petty stuff go now I know someone's paying attention to the stuff that matters. I wish you the very best in rising above - you're right, it's not easy
This. You will be seen as someone to watch for all the wrong reasons. It is frustrating and demoralising but it none of your business. I speak from experience.
I'm really sorry that you had that experience - are you still in that role?
Thankfully whilst it's none of *my* business, it is very much the business of HR who are now paying attention.
I'd like to think that I'm one to watch for all the right reasons - I'm absolutely and very publicly killing it at work just now and I'd like to think that this speaks for itself
But who knows? I could get made redundant at some point in the future, the way the economy is looking
The best advice I was ever given was to choose your battles, if she has no impact on you then I'd say it's probably not a battle worth fighting.
I'd think about how this will make you look to HR as well. My colleague tried to get our manager sacked while he (manager) was on holiday and it massively backfired, because it was clear to everyone that my colleague was the problem and my colleague is now working his notice period. It's not your job to "get rid" of a colleague just because their behavior irritates you, that's down to their line manager. In the kindest way possible, try to find it in you to rise above it and focus on doing your own job really well.
You're quite right, but I promise that I've chosen this battle carefully. It's not even really a battle I'm fighting on an ongoing basis to be fair, I've said my piece now and it's out of my hands. If they choose to ignore all the people complaining about her, that's on them.
I guess I've been intentionally vague, but the issues do go a bit deeper than pure irritation on my part - I'm strict with myself about objectivity and fairness and wouldn't complain about someone just because they're annoying. There are contract-related and legal issues at stake.
She *is* insanely irritating though
What is your desired outcome?
I think, more than anything, I'd like for her manager to get some [more?] support, both in terms of dealing with this dickhead and with their workload. Manager is a great person but a poor manager, either because of weakness in confronting the issues, or because they're truly unaware of what's going on (surely not?!).
I'd also appreciate this idiot not making us all look bad.
Their last words were…preferably your stories of getting rid of someone at work. So she wants them to be sacked, is how I read it.
Won't lie, I'd love that and they have definitely earned that. Any other department would have been done with this shitbag ages ago.
I'm not gunning for her, I'd settle for her just keeping her head down and even pretending to work at this point.
Thanks all for your stellar advice, and I take it all in the spirit in which it was intended
I'll keep you all posted with any outcomes I'm privy to.
I'm glad I spoke to HR and I'm glad they are approachable and reasonable. A more "corporate" HR may well not have responded so well, but I think they understood that I wasn't just being a whiny and vindictive bitch. I hope you all understand that here on Tattle I feel I'm in a safe space to both whine *and* be a bitch
I'd definitely urge caution to anyone in a similar position - most HR depts, in my experience, aren't so receptive.