COVID-19 vaccine #22 & general vaccine conversation

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Scary….Just read about an ex work colleague that dropped dead yesterday on her birthday 😟
 
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I think GP’s are prescribing more now than ever, they don’t want to open their doors when a phone call and script saves a lot of work.
 
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I think GP’s are prescribing more now than ever, they don’t want to open their doors when a phone call and script saves a lot of work.
My MIL has had a cough for about 7 weeks now and she couldn’t get through to the GP so she emailed them on the repeat prescription email chancing her arm to get a dr to phone her and instead of contacting her they just give her a script for an antibiotic, without even speaking to her to ask her for her symptoms. All she had said was she had a cough for 7 weeks not even a description of whether the cough was productive or dry etc. She ended up going to the privately to see a GP - cost her £50 for the 10 minute appointment and they suspected an allergy was causing it - any wonder we have an antibiotic resistance problem!
 
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I have felt you have been very harsh and critical of those opposing vaccines with many of your snide remarks and bitchy comments you’ve made but as we all know feelings are subjective.
It's weird because I try to be pretty careful what I write so it doesn't come across too negative. It shows the often unsubtle nature of online communication. It can quickly escalate and feelings can run high, understandable considering these are emotive topics.
 
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I think GP’s are prescribing more now than ever, they don’t want to open their doors when a phone call and script saves a lot of work.
A few of my MIL friends have suffered massively with UTI's for a long time. One of them was even hospitalised with it. When she went to see a specialist about it he said there was nothing more he could do, he then turned around to her and said I'm going to write something down on a piece of paper but I'm not meant to officially recommend it as it's a natural remedy. He then gave her the piece of paper and it said Mannose. She's never suffered with UTI's since.
 
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A few of my MIL friends have suffered massively with UTI's for a long time. One of them was even hospitalised with it. When she went to see a specialist about it he said there was nothing more he could do, he then turned around to her and said I'm going to write something down on a piece of paper but I'm not meant to officially recommend it as it's a natural remedy. He then gave her the piece of paper and it said mannose. She's never suffered with UTI's since.
ThTs awful. Thank goodness for him giving her a natural remedy that’s helped isn’t that just horrendous. UTIs are so uncomfortable too 😫
 
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My MIL has had a cough for about 7 weeks now and she couldn’t get through to the GP so she emailed them on the repeat prescription email chancing her arm to get a dr to phone her and instead of contacting her they just give her a script for an antibiotic, without even speaking to her to ask her for her symptoms. All she had said was she had a cough for 7 weeks not even a description of whether the cough was productive or dry etc. She ended up going to the privately to see a GP - cost her £50 for the 10 minute appointment and they suspected an allergy was causing it - any wonder we have an antibiotic resistance problem!
Exactly the same thing with a TikToker I watch she got two different antibiotics over the phone one from a private GP off the internet and then her own GP when the previous one didn’t work, she’s still got the cough .
 
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ThTs awful. Thank goodness for him giving her a natural remedy that’s helped isn’t that just horrendous. UTIs are so uncomfortable too 😫
Yeah nice bloke. I bought some for the rare occasion I have a UTI and it really does sort it out. I highly recommend.
 
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It's weird because I try to be pretty careful what I write so it doesn't come across too negative. It shows the often unsubtle nature of online communication. It can quickly escalate and feelings can run high, understandable considering these are emotive topics.
Yea well to give a small example - I think the use of fire emojis paired with snappy remarks that youve not gone away you’ve just found somewhere else to chat etc comes across as bitchy and immature to an extent? It doesn’t really add anything to the thread it’s just petty and boring to read for everyone else. I’m conscious this ongoing discussion may also be boring to read so I’ll end it here but I hope it’s helpful hearing some honest feedback.
 
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Yea well to give a small example - I think the use of fire emojis paired with snappy remarks that youve not gone away you’ve just found somewhere else to chat etc comes across as bitchy and immature to an extent? It doesn’t really add anything to the thread it’s just petty and boring to read for everyone else. I’m conscious this ongoing discussion may also be boring to read so I’ll end it here but I hope it’s helpful hearing some honest feedback.
At least you weren’t told to post elsewhere 😂
 
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Yea well to give a small example - I think the use of fire emojis paired with snappy remarks that youve not gone away you’ve just found somewhere else to chat etc comes across as bitchy and immature to an extent? It doesn’t really add anything to the thread it’s just petty and boring to read for everyone else. I’m conscious this ongoing discussion may also be boring to read so I’ll end it here but I hope it’s helpful hearing some honest feedback.
I won't respond to the point about emojis because I don't want to write anything that might sound sarcastic or further derail the thread. But it's been genuinely interesting to hear your thoughts and I wish you a good night. 😊
 
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i think the opposite may more likely be the case - doctors are generally reluctant to prescribe medication that may become habit-forming or needed for life unless they're absolutely necessary. My GP is a case in point. He'll try any other interventions first, ie diet and lifestyle changes before resorting to prescribing medication. Even got accupuncture from him for pain from a dislocated elbow once, which worked brilliantly.
Bloody hell it's like you are in a different reality to most of the UK. Even when you had your vaccines you had a gaggle of Drs and nurses to answer all your questions rather than a volunteer who didnt know SFA like most other people. Mind you that is one thing I have noticed with the vocally pro-vaccine crowd here. All were fully informed and had all their questions answered, staff had all the time in the world to allay any fears they had, not that they had any of course. How different from so many other tattlers.


I had to wait over a year for a physio appointment and then was given some printed handout exercises to do.

Was told I had left something way to late for anything to be done, and my problem was now incurable I hadnt left anything it happened during covid and no one would see me, went private (therapy not DR) and was cured in less than 20 mins.

Any GP ( except my most recent one ) I've seen writes out a script almost as soon as you sit down and I know many others who all say the same.

At least you weren’t told to post elsewhere 😂

That was quite funny really. I was explaining to a new poster why there was no opposing discussion on either thread as they were a bit puzzled and were trying to get a debate going. But then that was used to tell you a non CT and a pro vaxxer to post elsewhere 🤣
 
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GPs vary wildly. The GP contract is fairly loose in many ways so a lot depends on the partners, it's also the place the state of other services is really plainly seen. Here there is zero chance as an adult of getting mental health support (aside from IAPT which you can self refer to) unless you are at the point of being sectioned (even then the thresholds are higher than once were) therefore unfortunately many are just offered tablets. Mine have been amazing though, even through covid and lockdowns my son was seen in person on the same day when needed, they've carried on with routine stuff, and when I was having issues post 3rd vaccine I had a D dimer test, was given a peak flow monitor, was referred for a chest X Ray and was advised to fill in the yellow card scheme the same day I phoned (the scan was a few months later though).

Like most things here now, really is luck of the draw and decent doctors are the minority sadly.

Regarding the AZ vaccines, of course the death of his wife is heartbreaking, but it was very widely covered in the media and changes were made to the age it was given to before it was fairly quickly withdrawn from use. Seems to be Pfizer that there's less transparency about? Not that of course it diminishes the importance or sadness of those affected by AZ at all.
 
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This article has several limitations. In their discussion:

• “Our early warning safety system is the first to identify-four new statistical signals for modestly elevated risks (RR less than 2) of four serious outcomes of AMI, PE, DIC, and ITP following BNT162b2 vaccination…”

BUT then go on to say:

• “The statistical signals of four serious outcomes are not necessarily causal and may be due to factors potentially unrelated to vaccination.

• Limitations of the study include no control group, the analysis did not account for pre-exisiting comorbidities and in the author’s own words: “a substantial fraction had pre-existing outcome-specific comorbidities and risk factors, and that some outcomes may be due to follow-up care to an existing condition preceding the vaccination.

• “The near real-time analysis did not adjust for underlying risk factors such as comorbidities among recipients in the early vaccination campaign leading to falsely positive or negative signals.

• “Furthermore, the early warning system may falsely identify a signal (false positive) or signals because of the high number of statistical tests performed or possible misspecification of parameters. Conversely, true safety signals (false negatives) may be missed due to mispecified parameters in the analyses.
 
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GPs vary wildly. The GP contract is fairly loose in many ways so a lot depends on the partners, it's also the place the state of other services is really plainly seen. Here there is zero chance as an adult of getting mental health support (aside from IAPT which you can self refer to) unless you are at the point of being sectioned (even then the thresholds are higher than once were) therefore unfortunately many are just offered tablets. Mine have been amazing though, even through covid and lockdowns my son was seen in person on the same day when needed, they've carried on with routine stuff, and when I was having issues post 3rd vaccine I had a D dimer test, was given a peak flow monitor, was referred for a chest X Ray and was advised to fill in the yellow card scheme the same day I phoned (the scan was a few months later though).

Like most things here now, really is luck of the draw and decent doctors are the minority sadly.

Regarding the AZ vaccines, of course the death of his wife is heartbreaking, but it was very widely covered in the media and changes were made to the age it was given to before it was fairly quickly withdrawn from use. Seems to be Pfizer that there's less transparency about? Not that of course it diminishes the importance or sadness of those affected by AZ at all.
I agree with you on GP’s ,mine is excellent. I don’t agree that AZ was limited when red flags were raised ,it was still being rolled out when Whitty was made aware there was a potential problem .As for media coverage the family of Liza Shaw had to fight to get it out there.
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Bloody hell it's like you are in a different reality to most of the UK. Even when you had your vaccines you had a gaggle of Drs and nurses to answer all your questions rather than a volunteer who didnt know SFA like most other people. Mind you that is one thing I have noticed with the vocally pro-vaccine crowd here. All were fully informed and had all their questions answered, staff had all the time in the world to allay any fears they had, not that they had any of course. How different from so many other tattlers.


I had to wait over a year for a physio appointment and then was given some printed handout exercises to do.

Was told I had left something way to late for anything to be done, and my problem was now incurable I hadnt left anything it happened during covid and no one would see me, went private (therapy not DR) and was cured in less than 20 mins.

Any GP ( except my most recent one ) I've seen writes out a script almost as soon as you sit down and I know many others who all say the same.




That was quite funny really. I was explaining to a new poster why there was no opposing discussion on either thread as they were a bit puzzled and were trying to get a debate going. But then that was used to tell you a non CT and a pro vaxxer to post elsewhere 🤣
Lurkers….🙄😂
 
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And this is why people like Andrew Bridgen are so vital to exposing the truth.



Can't believe this has made it onto the BBC.

 
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