The full clip he stumbles a few times before he collapsed. Looked like the guy behind was discreetly trying to hold him up
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Evidence of what? Unless there’s another tweet circulating I haven’t seen anything vaccine related in the comments I’ve read
I couldn’t identify him in a line up
If I was trying to imply it was vaccine related I would’ve posted this clip that was broadcast a few weeks ago lol
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Perhaps not but for anyone who does know him his hey-look-that's-me moment is no longer what he might havebhoped orb anticipated...View attachment 1582095
Evidence of what? Unless there’s another tweet circulating I haven’t seen anything vaccine related in the comments I’ve read
I couldn’t identify him in a line up
That’s the perils of having the eyes of the world upon you, I believe every media source featured him .
Revealed also now is my tendency to hit the 'b' on the onscreen keyboard instead of the space 
The two Covid-19 therapies in question aresotrovimab and casirivimab-imdevimab were some of the medicines developed at the start of the pandemic.
Since the virus has evolved/mutated, I don’t think they work as well against current variants.
Was just reading that
I have lost count of how many vaccine injuries support groups that have been deleted in the last 10 or more years. before that, they went under the radar. The trouble is those who believe the deaths and injuries are rare will believe it's taken down for being false it seems to reaffirm what they want to believe rather than making them think why are these groups being deleted. especially as no way would a long covid support group be deleted.
Yes, that’s what the article states?
Those news stories have a sympathetic twist added to them.
"Facebook vaccine injury support group" makes it sound harmless, but the reason it was removed was because it spread misinformation and actively sought to get around filters by using emojis in place of certain words.
Proves we should scrutinise tweets from the likes of Toby Young just as much as we should scrutinise headlines in the mainstream media.
"Facebook vaccine injury support group" makes it sound harmless, but the reason it was removed was because it spread misinformation and actively sought to get around filters by using emojis in place of certain words.
Proves we should scrutinise tweets from the likes of Toby Young just as much as we should scrutinise headlines in the mainstream media.
Did the gov VACCINE campaign come up against the same barriers I wonder
!00% proves my point made in the post above.Those news stories have a sympathetic twist added to them.
"Facebook vaccine injury support group" makes it sound harmless, but the reason it was removed was because it spread misinformation and actively sought to get around filters by using emojis in place of certain words.
Proves we should scrutinise tweets from the likes of Toby Young just as much as we should scrutinise headlines in the mainstream media.
the reason we have to use different words or imogjis is that Facebook bans us or closes groups discussing vacine injuries and death , so people try it get around it by not using the correct words.
Posting to someone "get vaccinated you diseases spreading scum" = absolutely fine and nothing wrong according to FB when I reported someone saying that to a mum who had lost her child.
Posting "my friend died the day after her vaccine" = not fine and spreading false information. 30 day ban
People have no idea how much truth is being censored and seems they don't even care.
They're full of unverifiable claims. I can understand Facebook not wishing to be used as a platform to spread such claims.
It's their right to have relevant groups removed from their platform.
It's quite frankly frightening and unbelievable that people could be cheering on such censorship. I
believe these people are being honest and truthful about their injuries, but even if they weren't why should they be silenced? It's peoples fundamental right to be able to say what they think and feel, and if you think that should be prohibited then we might as well live in china.The same person literally cries over the forum when anyone suggests something they love and believe in should now be stopped.It's quite frankly frightening and unbelievable that people could be cheering on such censorship. I
I am now using the ignore feature. I don't like to, but they are all over the place like an angry wasp these last few days. .
Open Letter: Covid-19-vaccine-associated Myocarditis – a Cumulative Risk.
To: Dr Jenny Harries, Chief Executive, UKHSA
Copies: Dr Andrew Goddard: RCP, Dame Clare Gerada: RCGP, Professor Kevin Fenton: FPH, Dr Jim McManus: ADPH, Dr Camilla Kingdon: RCPCH, Dr Tim Cooksley: Society for Acute Medicine, Dr John Greenwood: British Cardiovascular Soc, Dame Helen Stokes-Lampard: AoMRC
14th August 2022
Dear Dr Harries,
Re: Covid-19-vaccine-associated Myocarditis – A Cumulative Risk
We, the undersigned, are writing to express our deep concern at the guidance regarding further mRNA vaccination after any episode of myocarditis, as detailed in the UKHSA guidance for healthcare professionals.
Myocarditis severity has been downplayed:
The majority of patients with vaccine-associated myocarditis present with chest pain. This may be misinterpreted, by either the patient or doctor, as musculoskeletal pain, which is a recognised non-serious side effect of these products and cardiac pathology could be missed. Any patient presenting with chest pain should be assessed immediately in hospital as this may be life-threatening.
During the covid pandemic, anyone admitted to hospital with a positive test result was considered to have severe Covid-19. With myocarditis, every patient presenting with cardiac symptoms needs hospital assessment including ECGs, blood troponin levels and echocardiograms. This would therefore not fit the definition of a mild illness. A recent BMJ review quotes “Most people were admitted to hospital (≥84%) for a short duration (two to four days).” The review further quotes, “persistent echocardiogram abnormalities, as well as ongoing symptoms or a need for drug treatments or restriction from activities in >50% of patients”. Where cardiac MRI scans have been performed, 89% of patients have shown Late Gadolinium Enhancement (LGE), which is known to be a predictor of a bad prognosis. Inflammation of the heart can lead to fibrosis and other complications such as arrhythmias and death. Left undiagnosed and therefore untreated, there is also a real risk of silent left ventricular dysfunction. Myocarditis should be considered far from being a mild illness.
The long term prognosis for post-vaccination myocarditis is also uncertain but early follow-up studies in children have shown two-thirds had persistent changes on cardiac MRI scans 3-8 months later, despite clinical improvement. A detailed US FDA advisory committee report from late 2021, showed that 40% of affected adolescents were still symptomatic at 3 month follow-up and 50% were still restricting their physical activity. Viral myocarditis can have serious late consequences with an approximately 20% six-year mortality. In the absence of appropriate long-term follow-up, it is reckless to assume that vaccine-associated myocarditis has a milder outcome.
It is therefore concerning that the UKHSA guidance contains advice such as:
- “Where appropriate the patient should be seen face to face and this assessment should include their vital signs.” We would consider a face-to-face assessment essential and feel the phrase “where appropriate” to be misplaced. ““If patients have mild symptoms, they do not require a referral to secondary care at this point.” Again, every patient with chest pain or palpitations should have an urgent ECG and be tested for cardiac troponins. The term mild myocarditis refers to symptoms which resolve and therefore can only be considered a retrospective diagnosis.
- It is impossible to substantiate the statement that “the majority of cases appear to be mild and self-limiting”, whilst acknowledging that “no long-term follow-up data is available yet on hospitalised patients”
Cumulative risk:
In most series, myocarditis has occurred after the second dose, yet government guidance suggests patients who have suffered with myocarditis following initial vaccination, may still undergo further vaccinations:
“If there is no evidence of ongoing myocarditis, they can be offered vaccination with the Pfizer (Comirnaty) vaccine from 12 weeks after their last dose if further doses are due. If there is evidence of ongoing effects of acute or subacute myocarditis, then an individual risk benefit assessment should be undertaken”
None of the vaccine trials included patients with a past history of myocarditis and we are aware of no data to support this advice. Giving a Covid-19 vaccine to someone with a past history of myocarditis of any cause, would require a thorough assessment and individual discussion of benefit and risk. Any episode of post-vaccination myocarditis should be seen as an absolute contraindication to receiving any further doses, as the risk of this serious cardiac condition is known to increase after the second dose. The UKHSA has acknowledged the total absence of long-term follow up of vaccine-associated myocarditis. Continuing with the policy outlined above is therefore reckless.
Actions required:
- We ask that you urgently update the advice to ensure that all patients with relevant symptoms are seen face to face and receive at minimum an ECG and a cardiac troponins test, proceeding to Echocardiogram and cardiac MRI if initial investigations support a diagnosis of myocarditis.
- We also urge you to recognise myocarditis is a potentially serious cardiac condition and not refer to it as a mild illness. This is misleading as we do not have long-term safety data to support the use of the word “mild”. Myocarditis has undoubtedly proved fatal for some.
- The guidance should also be corrected to advise that a diagnosis of vaccine-associated myocarditis should be an absolute contraindication to further doses.
- These changes should be notified to all GPs, vaccination centres and emergency medicine departments.
This letter will be published openly, and we hope it is shared widely along with any response.
Yours sincerely
Dr Jonathan Engler, MBChB, LlB (hons), DipPharmMed and
Dr Clare Craig, BMBCh, FRCPath
Co-chairs of HART (Health Advisory & Recovery Team, www.hartgroup.org)
Signatories from HART:
- Dr Mark A Bell, MBChB, MRCP(UK), FRCEM, Consultant in Emergency Medicine
- Dr Michael D Bell, MBChB, MRCGP, retired General Practitioner
- Dr Alan Black, MBBS, MSc, DipPharmMed, retired Pharmaceutical Physician
- Dr Emma Brierly, MBBS, MRCGP, General Practitioner
- Dr Elizabeth Burton, MB ChB, retired General Practitioner
- Dr David Cartland, MBChB, BMedSci, General practitioner
- Dr Peter Chan, BM, MRCS, MRCGP, NLP, General Practitioner, Functional medicine
- Michael Cockayne, MSc, PGDip, SCPHNOH, BA, RN, Occupational Health Practitioner
- James Cook, NHS Registered Nurse, Bachelor of Nursing (Hons), Master of Public Health
- Dr Clare Craig, BM BCh FRCPath, Diagnostic pathologist
- Dr David Critchley, BSc (Hons), PhD, Clinical Pharmacologist
- Dr Jonathan Engler, MBChB, LlB (hons), DipPharmMed
- Dr Elizabeth Evans, MA(Cantab), MBBS, DRCOG, retired Doctor, Director UKMFA
- Dr Ali Haggett, Mental health community work, 3rd sector, former lecturer in the history of medicine
- Mr Anthony Hinton, MBChB, FRCS, Consultant ENT surgeon, London
- Dr Keith Johnson, BA, DPhil (Oxon), IP Consultant for Diagnostic Testing
- Dr Rosamond Jones, MBBS, MD, FRCPCH, retired consultant paediatrician, convener CCVAC
- Dr Tanya Klymenko, PhD, FHEA, FIBMS, Senior Lecturer in Biomedical Sciences
- Dr Branko Latinkic, BSc, PhD, Molecular Biologist
- Dr John Flack, BPharm, PhD, retired Director of Safety Evaluation at Beecham Pharmaceuticals, retired Senior Vice-president for Drug Discovery SmithKline Beecham
- Dr Ayiesha Malik, MBChB, General Practitioner
- Mr Ian McDermott, MBBS, MS, FRCS(Tr&Orth), FFSEM(UK), Consultant Orthopaedic Surgeon
- Dr Franziska Meuschel, MD, ND, PhD, LFHom, BSEM, Nutritional, Environmental and Integrated Medicine
- Dr Alan Mordue, MBChB, FFPH. Retired Consultant in Public Health Medicine & Epidemiology
- Dr Rachel Nicholl, PhD, Medical researcher
- Rev Dr William J U Philip MB ChB, MRCP, BD, Senior Minister The Tron Church, Glasgow, formerly physician specialising in cardiology
- Dr Jon Rogers, MB ChB (Bristol), Retired General Practitioner
- Mr James Royle, MBChB, FRCS, MMedEd, Colorectal surgeon
- Dr Roland Salmon, MB BS, MRCGP, FFPH, Former Director, Communicable Disease Surveillance Centre Wales
- Natalie Stephenson, BSc (Hons) Paediatric Audiologist
- Dr Zenobia Storah,MA (Oxon), Dip Psych, DClinPsy, Senior Clinical Psychologist (Child and Adolescent)
- Dr Helen Westwood MBChB MRCGP DCH DRCOG, General Practitioner
- Mr Lasantha Wijesinghe, FRCS, Consultant Vascular Surgeon
- Julie Annakin, RN, Immunisation Specialist Nurse
- Dr Michael Bazlinton, MBCHB, MRCGP, DCH, General Practitioner
- Dr David Bell, MBBS, PhD, FRCP(UK), Public Health Physician
- Dr Michael D Bell, MBChB, MRCGP, retired General Practitioner
- Dr Alan Black, MBBS, MSc, DipPharmMed, retired Pharmaceutical Physician
- Dr Emma Brierly, MBBS, MRCGP, General Practitioner
- Mr John Bunni, MBChB (Hons), Dip Lap Surg, FRCS [ASGBI Medal] – Consultant Colorectal and General Surgeon
- Dr Elizabeth Burton, MB ChB, retired General Practitioner
- Professor Angus Dalgleish, MD, FRCP, FRACP, FRCPath, FMed Sci, Principal, Institute for Cancer Vaccines & Immunotherapy (ICVI)
- Dr Christopher Exley, PhD FRSB, retired professor in Bioinorganic Chemistry
- Professor John Fairclough, FRCS FFSEM, retired Honorary Consultant Surgeon
- Dr Jenny Goodman, MA, MBChB, Ecological Medicine
- Dr Catherine Hatton, MBChB, General Practitioner
- Dr Renée Hoenderkampf, General Practitioner
- Dr Charles Lane, MA, DPhil, Molecular Biologist
- Dr Felicity Lillingstone, IMD DHS PhD ANP, Doctor, Urgent Care, Research Fellow
- Professor David Livermore, BSc, PhD, retired Professor of Medical Microbiology
- Katherine MacGilchrist, BSc (Hons), MSc, CEO/Systematic Review Director, Epidemica Ltd.
- Dr Geoffrey Maidment, MBBS, MD, FRCP, Consultant physician, retired
- Dr Kulvinder Singh Manik, MBBS, General Practitioner
- Dr Fiona Martindale, MBChB, MRCGP, General Practitioner
- Dr S McBride, BSc(Hons) Medical Microbiology & Immunobiology, MBBCh BAO, MSc in Clinical
- Gerontology, MRCP(UK), FRCEM, FRCP(Edinburgh). NHS Emergency Medicine & geriatrics
- Professor Dennis McGonagle, PhD, FRCPI, Professor of Investigative Rheumatology, University of Leeds
- Dr Scott Mitchell, MBChB, MRCS, Emergency Medicine Physician
- Dr David Morris, MBChB, MRCP(UK), General Practitioner
- Dr Greta Mushet, MBChB, MRCPsych, retired Consultant Psychiatrist in Psychotherapy
- Dr Sarah Myhill, MBBS, retired GP and Naturopathic Physician
- Dr Christina Peers, MBBS, DRCOG, DFSRH, FFSRH, Menopause specialist
- Anna Phillips, RSCN, BSc Hons, Clinical Lead Trainer Clinical Systems (Paediatric Intensive Care)
- Dr Angharad Powell, MBChB, BSc (hons), DFRSH, DCP (Ireland), DRCOG, DipOccMed, MRCGP, General Practitioner
- Dr Salmaan Saleem, MBBS, BmedSci, MRCGP General Practitioner
- Dr Rohaan Seth, Bsc, MBChB, MRCGP, Retired General Practitioner
- Dr Noel Thomas, MA, MBChB, DCH, DObsRCOG, DTM&H, MFHom, retired doctor
- Dr Stephen Ting, MB CHB, MRCP, PhD, Consultant Physician
- Dr Livia Tossici-Bolt, PhD, Clinical Scientist
- Dr Carmen Wheatley, DPhil, Orthomolecular Oncology
- Dr Ruth Wilde, MB BCh, MRCEM, AFMCP, Integrative & Functional Medicine Doctor
- Dr Lucie Wilk, MD, Consultant Rheumatologist
- Dr Stefanie Williams, MD, Dermatologist
For anyone following the gp harassing me to get my sons the flu vaccine story…
I got in touch with the GP. Had to call in as hellish trying to get through phone and they said to me that they were sorry for the volume of messages but that for every vaccine on the schedule now they will send me these updates and that they can’t stop them but that everytime i receive one I need to send a letter notifying I decline and the reason I decline. I asked so I’ll need to send a letter every year then? And she said yes that’s correct. I asked was that not a waste of resources for someone to need to open my letter and have a doctor glance at it so they can update the record and she said it’s just how it is now and she apologised for the inconvenience it would cause me.
In other news I got the letters from the school today inviting them for flu vaccines - being chased from all angles here. Also asks on that form to explain my reasons does anyone else decline nasal flu vaccine? Does your form also ask this. I don’t recall seeing this on the form in previous years although maybe it has been and I’ve not noticed.
I got in touch with the GP. Had to call in as hellish trying to get through phone and they said to me that they were sorry for the volume of messages but that for every vaccine on the schedule now they will send me these updates and that they can’t stop them but that everytime i receive one I need to send a letter notifying I decline and the reason I decline. I asked so I’ll need to send a letter every year then? And she said yes that’s correct. I asked was that not a waste of resources for someone to need to open my letter and have a doctor glance at it so they can update the record and she said it’s just how it is now and she apologised for the inconvenience it would cause me.
In other news I got the letters from the school today inviting them for flu vaccines - being chased from all angles here. Also asks on that form to explain my reasons
does anyone else decline nasal flu vaccine? Does your form also ask this. I don’t recall seeing this on the form in previous years although maybe it has been and I’ve not noticed.My three grandaughter's have been out of school a while now but cant remember my daughter having to give a reason for refusal.For anyone following the gp harassing me to get my sons the flu vaccine story…
I got in touch with the GP. Had to call in as hellish trying to get through phone and they said to me that they were sorry for the volume of messages but that for every vaccine on the schedule now they will send me these updates and that they can’t stop them but that everytime i receive one I need to send a letter notifying I decline and the reason I decline. I asked so I’ll need to send a letter every year then? And she said yes that’s correct. I asked was that not a waste of resources for someone to need to open my letter and have a doctor glance at it so they can update the record and she said it’s just how it is now and she apologised for the inconvenience it would cause me.
In other news I got the letters from the school today inviting them for flu vaccines - being chased from all angles here. Also asks on that form to explain my reasons
The kids who got it though were given certificates and stickers .
This is a very interesting video on Ivermectine .. These people should be in prison, Fauci especially. The man is a cold blooded murderer and has been since at least the 80s
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