Sorry, I added another choice for anyone who didn’t get it.
Aww right, I thought vaccination covered all
Yup, he tested positive now can’t fly. They say ten days isolation.. I’m hoping though it’s actually until he gets a negative! Such an inconvenience he’s now in our room we are on the sofa. He was previously in an air bnb. Annoyed as he didn’t lateral flow the day before to give them the heads up, & no back up plan!
Glad I found you, thanks for your condescending post earlier! To explain the difference to you about medications having side effects, yes they do but usually the Company is well aware of said side effects, they've seen how they play out AND THEY ACTUALLY KNOW DOWN TO THE LETTER THE LIKELIHOOD OF YOU GETTING ONE!! On Pfizers initial press release they claimed their Vaccine was safe and effective? Myocarditis went on to be both DISCOVERED and OBSERVED after release of the vaccine in the PUBLIC. NOT before, and THEN provided a warning and an actual likelihood of it happening? It has since been continuously seen in the public? I.e the Public has been the Test Bed? Without their CONSENT to being said TEST BED??? The same happened with Astrazeneca? So yes I will CONTINUE to ring my hands at the absolute disgusting madness of this and also will mention how Pfizer being the outstandingly ethical company they are not, were Court Ordered to release the Data they wanted to bury for 75 yearsThere are too many replies to my last post to go back to each individually, plus it's harder with the thread change, but I had no idea what the 77th Brigade was until someone mentioned it here recently so I had a Google. Suffice to say I'm not a member of it!
Believe it or not, every day people can and do hold different viewpoints to you. It doesn't automatically make them part of the Army.
And welcome @screamqueen - I can tell we have opposing viewpoints about the vaccine (though not masks), but I like the last line of your post, as I do truly believe we can all discuss differing viewpoints without getting personal/rude with each other. I'd certainly like to see more of it anyway!
. Go read the 10 pages at the back which is a white-wash of serious side effects and tell me are you STILL happy you and your family were exposed to this by a company who KNEW what they were exposing the public to. Unbeknownst to them? Go look!What you said about people’s attitudes changing towards the vaccine is very very true. Can’t tell you how many family/friend debates and arguments I had at the start. It was constant people coming for meHello all
Stumbled across this thread but have spent most of today reading through the previous one, and it's really interesting to see a variety of view points on this, so thank you.
I haven't had the vaccine, all of my family and most of my close friends have. In the beginning friends got quite shirty about me not having it, said I was selfish, etc.. but since more and more boosters have been coming out, these same friends are now starting to question it all with some even saying they've had enough and won't be getting anymore jabs, so it's really interesting to see their change of thought.
Family have been a bit different - I have a narc mum who I think likely won't see me in person again as I haven't had it, and whenever we speak on the phone it's the first thing she asks 'have you had your vaccine yet?'.
I completely understand and respect her reason for having it, and as with my friends, I have not judged anyone for having it - it's your choice and you should be free to do what you like. However, I did feel there was a fair bit of negativity towards me for choosing not to have it, and in the beginning I understood their reasoning, but it was my choice too.
I'm that statistic though that says people who haven't had covid likely don't have any friends, so perhaps my hermit-lifestyle has enabled me to thankfully not catch covid (though have had a couple of colds here and there), but if I'm not hurting anyone I don't see what the problem is? I wear my mask when I go outside, and I'm quite happy to do so, despite others no longer wearing them.
Anyway, happy to be hear and learn more from others from both sides of the coin.
Now, these same people are questioning it a little bit more. I think like you said, the booster thing is putting people off. Loads of people are refusing to have any more jabs. They are done with it. also had no hands left from sanitising them every 2 minutes, used to get crappy with people who stood to close to me in line it was sheer fear of the unknown. Mental and bonkers it was haha! I remember watching the news and seeing men in hazard suits going into houses and wheeling people with covid out on stretchers and thinking omg it’s the zombie apocalypse the world had gone mad, it still has but it’s got better!
It’s a disgrace that people have the attitude of well it can have side affects. This isn’t normal, it isn’t ok and the people who have had some of these issues with it, are worth more than that. They deserve to be heard and not just brushed off like they are being!Glad I found you, thanks for your condescending post earlier! To explain the difference to you about medications having side effects, yes they do but usually the Company is well aware of said side effects, they've seen how they play out AND THEY ACTUALLY KNOW DOWN TO THE LETTER THE LIKELIHOOD OF YOU GETTING ONE!! On Pfizers initial press release they claimed their Vaccine was safe and effective? Myocarditis went on to be both DISCOVERED and OBSERVED after release of the vaccine in the PUBLIC. NOT before, and THEN provided a warning and an actual likelihood of it happening? It has since been continuously seen in the public? I.e the Public has been the Test Bed? Without their CONSENT to being said TEST BED??? The same happened with Astrazeneca? So yes I will CONTINUE to ring my hands at the absolute disgusting madness of this and also will mention how Pfizer being the outstandingly ethical company they are not, were Court Ordered to release the Data they wanted to bury for 75 years
Imagine your chance of getting Rabies rises after being vaccinated with the Rabies jab? Can you imagine THAT actually being true? It would be a disgrace?I took a screen shot from one of the clips and you can see in the younger age group the cases are higher in the unvaccinated (965 in unvaccinated vs 56 after 1st dose vs 38 after 2nd dose vs 5 after 3rd dose) so your argument is really quite flawed. This is also data from a certain time period, also not taking into account is it per 1,000 people or per 100,000 people? Base rate fallacy has been ignored.
Is that not because there’s not as much vaccine uptake in younger age groups?
Thanks so muchWhat you said about people’s attitudes changing towards the vaccine is very very true. Can’t tell you how many family/friend debates and arguments I had at the start. It was constant people coming for me
I’d say the large majority of people I know got the vaccine because of the vaccine passport thing and Holidays etc.. now they have scraped that a fair few arent happy about it. They thought that was the whole future but things were only ever supposed to be temporary though.
We also have more understanding around the whole thing now. At the start of the pandemic, I used to go supermarket, come home and I’d leave my shoes at the door, get straight in the shower and put my clothes in the wash. I was also leaving carrier bags outside the front door and spraying them with sanitiser
I hope your mum sees sense, you can only spread covid if you have it after all!
It isn’t as black and white as those Twitter videos make it out to be. Base rate fallacy is not taken into account nor is he interpreting the stats in an accurate manner. Whereas, studies have shown the vaccine does reduce severe illness/death not the opposite.
