Eat out to help out was not the reason infections spiked in September when schools returned... What’s the point in us being vaccinated now if we still can’t live our lives? They have to let us out and have a life at some point.. or do you want us to stay home forever?
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Help Out To Eat Out was just fine. We saw infections rise from the middle of September when schools and colleges had been open a few weeks. If EOTHO was responsible for the infection rise we would have seen a rise from the middle of August a couple of weeks in it. We need a good economy to help lives. We haven't got an endless pit of money and especially not when places are shut. The average age of a covid death is around two years higher than a normal death.
Everyone’s getting their orders in early the EU have got millions of Pfizer on delivery for this year
Eat out to help out wasn’t the problem. At that time people were only supposed to be going for food with their household I believe? (Not saying people should have stuck to that) But if people did stick to the rules as they were intended, eat out to help out wouldn’t have caused any problems
If I recall, only about a sixth of the cases of that September spike were linked to the Eat Out To Help Out scheme - probably because of all the mandatory limitations and measures that establishments were required to have.
edit : can't remember if this was the one I first saw but seems to be https://www.theguardian.com/busines...eory-eat-out-to-help-out-caused-rise-in-covid
And note the article is over a month after the initial set of articles that were trying to point the finger so there was time for actual analysis.
Plus or minus a bit of healthy skepticism, where we resist the temptation to think this kind of thing ever has an absolute figure attached - though I see the author sensibly gave a range not anything exact.
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Cases will shoot up. It's inevitable once things fully reopen but as long as those cases don't become hospital admissions and deaths then it's nothing to worry about. We will always have to live alongside covid but we should definitely be able to get back to normal life even if case numbers do rise
Yeah I couldn’t remember figures but i can remember how organised and clean etc food places were and felt and how the vast majority of the public also were organised and safe!
I went out a few times when the Eat Out to Help scheme was running and ended up mainly at a Wetherspoons pub. I can tell you now the staff there took no chances and if a group turned up of more than 6 and tried to sit on tables next to each other, they would be politely asked to either move to a different table far away, or get out. I also remember there were times when people got really drunk and were walking over to tables with people on they knew (but hadn't came in with) and the staff promptly asked them to go sit back down or leave.
One night someone got quite aggressive and irate, we upped and left before anything too scary happened. I think the police were called and no one was luckily hurt.
One night someone got quite aggressive and irate, we upped and left before anything too scary happened. I think the police were called and no one was luckily hurt.
I see the article from the ceo of Pfizer has worked, he will be getting a huge bonus this year, they’ve already put the price up once haven’t they?
Oh god, that last line sent shivers down my spine.
Up here in Scotland and it’s 1 week today until our hospitality starts to open. And I cannot wait. Not fussed for the drinks, but I can’t wait to get out for a meal or to go to a local cafe for a sit in coffee. Sick to death of everything being centred around walking in parks or drive thru.
I agree fully: once we’re vaccinated, let’s go. Having WFH since March 2020 with no furlough all I can say is I cannot wait to start getting out, socialising and foreign travel again. Basically, starting to live life again.
On the ZOE app cases in my area are the lowest they have ever been
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Except we’re going into summer not winter and covid is a seasonal virus
The companies have never disclosed what’s in their contracts but they got a lot of outside help with funding https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55170756
It's summer in IndiaExcept we’re going into summer not winter and covid is a seasonal virus
It’s not cases that matter it’s hospitalisations and deaths. We’re going to have to live with covid 
Tourism chiefs accuse Macron of 'playing politics' with UK visitors
Furious British travel bosses slammed the French President's 'incredibly disappointing potential decision to cut off UK holidaymakers from the western European nation this summer.
Absolutely politically motivated. Our tourists spend billions there every year and we are their biggest foreign market and one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. They should open up their country for UK visitors, but we know Macron is a twit.
Tourism chiefs accuse Macron of 'playing politics' with UK visitors
Furious British travel bosses slammed the French President's 'incredibly disappointing potential decision to cut off UK holidaymakers from the western European nation this summer.www.dailymail.co.uk
Absolutely politically motivated. Our tourists spend billions there every year and we are their biggest foreign market and one of the most vaccinated countries in the world. They should open up their country for UK visitors, but we know Macron is a twit.
Nobody actually *needs* to go on holiday abroad just now though. The way some people whine on you'd think going to lie on the beach for a week in the Costa del Sol is some fundamental life or death human right that they can't just go without for a while!
I assume that all of your family live in your home country then and you don’t have family that live abroad?
Have you considered that the reason people want to go abroad isn’t to lie on the beach in the Costa del Sol, it’s to see families or friends or loved ones who they have been separated from? Travel isn’t just about holidays. And frankly if you are feeling down because you can’t go sit on a sunny beach with a cocktail who is anyone to judge that? It’s not just go without for a while people have made huge sacrifices already over the past year and people are desperate for things to be back to how we have become used to pre covid.
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