Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #63

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Yeah there's still over 16,000 in hospital and if what people are saying is true (about people not bothering to get tested )what then ? I thought they couldn't staff the nightingales without losing other vital services it could make way for a disastrous New Year.
i think we're going to make the same mistakes China made with new year
 
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So my large family have all decided to not bubble at all, which makes things easier.

I do think that they should put everyone in tier 2 for the week starting 21st and then reasses in the new year. Only because I have loads of posts from people on my newsfeed (I'm in a previous tier 1 area, currently 66 cases per 100k) saying that they can have as many households in before the 23rd and after the 27th, as long as they follow the rule of 6.
I've seen talk of an 'open house' new years eve, where they have family and friends arrive and leave throughout the day and night. Just seems really silly to me.
I don't know why some people take the piss and ruin it for everyone.
I won't be sending my kids back on January 4th though, I don't feel comfortable with that knowing their classmates could have mixed with many many others not even 2 weeks before, especially as we're told the incubation period is 2 weeks hence that length of isolation.
 
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Husband and I can't really bubble without excluding people so have decided not to. My mums house, my dads house and his parents would be three households plus our own. Not to mention, as I've said on her many times before on here, none of them follow the rules around household mixing to begin with - all of them visiting multiple other households all the time, as and when it suits. My mum for example fully intends to visit my grandmothers house the 24th and stay over there so that would be an additional household.

However I feel incredibly guilty. My mum keeps saying its "completely my decision" which isn't even true, we are trying our best to follow the guidance. Basically looking for some reassurance we are doing the right thing.
 
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Got sent to West Sussex today to collect a Covid 19 test, I had to wait for it, a health care professional actually did the test on a man at the address I was given. Afterwards I was given the kit and I took it to a lab 40 miles away. This isn't the first Covid delivery I've done but I'm thinking it might become a regular event.

As I mentioned last week, I delivered Covid 19 tests which IMO explain why the testing is so expensive, today's effort is another example.

While I'm here, I've had my temperature tested about 5 times in the past few days, more offices and loading bays have the equipment now and it's becoming the new norm.
 
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Can’t get my head round these Christmas rules (maybe I’m just thick!) so I think we’ll hibernate this Christmas and do doorstep gift exchanges.
 
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Husband and I can't really bubble without excluding people so have decided not to. My mums house, my dads house and his parents would be three households plus our own. Not to mention, as I've said on her many times before on here, none of them follow the rules around household mixing to begin with - all of them visiting multiple other households all the time, as and when it suits. My mum for example fully intends to visit my grandmothers house the 24th and stay over there so that would be an additional household.

However I feel incredibly guilty. My mum keeps saying its "completely my decision" which isn't even true, we are trying our best to follow the guidance. Basically looking for some reassurance we are doing the right thing.
You are following the guidance. It is the right thing. The people doing wrong are those who still think it's a good idea to socialise.
 
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I’m so sorry to read all these posts :( I’m from australia and at the moment there’s no restrictions, I feel terrible though. I’m moving to Manchester in jan and nervous
 
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I’m so sorry to read all these posts :( I’m from australia and at the moment there’s no restrictions, I feel terrible though. I’m moving to Manchester in jan and nervous
Oh I love Australia, and I'd prefer it to Manchester any day.
 
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Oh I love Australia, and I'd prefer it to Manchester any day.
the only reason is due to my BF (he’s from Manchester) he’s currently here in Aus with me but his visa is ending in jan which he can’t extend so I got my visa for the UK but we’re not sure what to do as our flights have already been cancelled by the airline 😳
 
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I’m going to put the idea to mr flogoff that we stay home this Xmas and do doorstep visits.
 
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Trying to get my head around what to do for Christmas. I’m a single mum who shielded and am immune suppressed. I have kept my risk low since shielding ended. I’ve been in one shop to choose flooring since March. I haven’t been to any cafes or restaurants. I’ve followed all the rules. My son has resumed seeing his dad twice a week since shielding ended and I hate that I have no idea what goes on there in terms of rules etc but my son is 10 and takes a mask and hand sanitiser which I know he uses when necessary.
My partner was away with work until July then we have seen him as a bubble. But lockdown 2 was announced and so he bubbled with his mum and my son and I bubbled with my dad. My partner and I haven’t been able to see each other (I know we could go on a walk together but I think I’d find it so hard not to hold his hand).
My brother lives north east and is on his own, found both lockdowns tough, he has depression anyway, pre-COVID. He wants to join us in south glos for Xmas.

So that’s our 3 households (my son, me and my dad as 1, my partner and his mum as 2, my brother as 3) which is great but means my partner and I still can’t touch each other in the meantime and my son can’t see him either which he finds hard. And because I’m vulnerable I don’t know how I feel about seeing my brother who is coming down from north east or about having 6 of us together on Xmas day (my son will also need to see his dad at some point which is allowed separately to the 3 households but again adds more risk?!)

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Sounds really hard. I’m not sure what to do, we have been invited to my in laws, 3 households would be husbands parents + BIL and SIL + my husband, me and my parents (we all live together). BIL and SIL are NHS and have just had COVID, my husband had it in October (also NHS). Parents and in laws are retired and in early 60s. I’m going to be 28 weeks pregnant so vulnerable due to that. I’m feeling safer now I know BIL and SIL have had COVID but I also know they won’t stick to the 3 households rule as they will definitely go see my SIL’s parents over the Christmas period. ☹☹
 
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I'm really behind with the news and this thread! With the Christmas news, how does it work? Can we see the in laws on one day and then my parents the next? So, does it need to be in one 'meet up' or can it be 2 separate ones? Not sure how comfortable I feel about exposing the older generation really, but just trying to understand the options!

My daughters test came back positive
Sorry to hear that, hope she's not too poorly with it.
 
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I'm really behind with the news and this thread! With the Christmas news, how does it work? Can we see the in laws on one day and then my parents the next? So, does it need to be in one 'meet up' or can it be 2 separate ones? Not sure how comfortable I feel about exposing the older generation really, but just trying to understand the options!
Three households form an exclusive bubble that means they don't need to social distance from each other and can act as one household for the five days.

They don't all have to meet each other at one time, or technically they don't even all have to see each other but they couldn't see anyone else in that way, if they met up with anyone else it would have to be under the restrictions of the tier they are in.

So if your house bubbled with your parents and your in-laws that would be your exclusive three household bubble and they wouldn't be able to be part of anyone else's bubble. Your parents and your in-laws wouldn't need to meet and you could see them as and how you wished over that five day period.
 
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So after much discussion last night we've decided just to have my parents for Christmas. My mother in law had already made arrangements to go for Christmas dinner at my BILs house as she came to us last year. Everyone seems happy enough with these arrangements so I can stop stressing. We always knew that this Christmas would be a strange one but just got to make the best out of it.
 
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Three households form an exclusive bubble that means they don't need to social distance from each other and can act as one household for the five days.

They don't all have to meet each other at one time, or technically they don't even all have to see each other but they couldn't see anyone else in that way, if they met up with anyone else it would have to be under the restrictions of the tier they are in.

So if your house bubbled with your parents and your in-laws that would be your exclusive three household bubble and they wouldn't be able to be part of anyone else's bubble. Your parents and your in-laws wouldn't need to meet and you could see them as and how you wished over that five day period.
Thanks for explaining, that's really helpful.
 
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So after much discussion last night we've decided just to have my parents for Christmas. My mother in law had already made arrangements to go for Christmas dinner at my BILs house as she came to us last year. Everyone seems happy enough with these arrangements so I can stop stressing. We always knew that this Christmas would be a strange one but just got to make the best out of it.
Oh I’m glad to hear that! After your amazing news you deserve a bit of Christmas cheer and I’m pleased you’ll get to see your parents. I know how much just seeing them in the garden has helped you, so hopefully it will be a nice day for you all
 
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Just thinking this Christmas household situation. What's the difference between 3 big households meeting up, and more than 3 but the households are smaller, so total number of people could be less than 3 households? Surely the potential number of cases arising from both scernairos would be the same?
 
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So.... if it’s 3 households are we allowed to do this..

my parents and brother live together... 1 household
My partners mum, brother and his girlfriend also live together (he has another brother who lives in England).

I already know my parents are only going to see us and not another household. So assuming my partners brother from England doesn’t come home for Christmas and his mum doesn’t see any other household (which we’d need to speak to her about first) then can we see both sets of parents?

confused!
 
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