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I have to admit that I judged someone earlier for not wearing one and then had to remind myself that there could be a reason. To be honest it’d make me feel awkward if I was a person that had a non obvious reason for not wearing one, if I thought anyone was judging me! But like you say, some people don’t have a reason and wouldn’t care.
This 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I have a valid medical exemption, I’m in the shielded category but I’m 28, look very healthy and generally live in gym gear...I‘m still getting my food shop delivered but I don’t go anywhere one is required because I just couldn’t bear the looks and judgements 🤷🏽‍♀️ Nor do I want to discuss my medical condition with strangers
 
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We're the opposite here ,but I'm wondering if it's because we've had such few cases that now it's taking hold again we'll be impacted more ? Our doctors surgeries have had an email this morning to say the receptionists have to wear PPE for the full working day as cases have had a significant rise ..
Cases in our local area have remained low during the whole of the first lockdown, so When the pubs reopened there was a cluster and a huge rise which got us the honour of the first Scottish city back into lockdown, didn't help that half the football team got caught at a local bar too when they should have been in a 'football bubble'

It may be that general social distancing, plus it being younger people have meant that there's been no hospital admissions but the people in the pubs would be going to visit their parents and grandparents so who knows really. I keep hoping it's no longer as deadly anyway and normality will be back soon.
 
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This 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I have a valid medical exemption, I’m in the shielded category but I’m 28, look very healthy and generally live in gym gear...I‘m still getting my food shop delivered but I don’t go anywhere one is required because I just couldn’t bear the looks and judgements 🤷🏽‍♀️ Nor do I want to discuss my medical condition with strangers
At the start of lockdown, people wearing masks really stood out. Now it’s going to be a case of the other way round. But you’re right, you shouldn’t have to explain yourself to anyone 😔
 
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Cases in our local area have remained low during the whole of the first lockdown, so When the pubs reopened there was a cluster and a huge rise which got us the honour of the first Scottish city back into lockdown, didn't help that half the football team got caught at a local bar too when they should have been in a 'football bubble'

It may be that general social distancing, plus it being younger people have meant that there's been no hospital admissions but the people in the pubs would be going to visit their parents and grandparents so who knows really. I keep hoping it's no longer as deadly anyway and normality will be back soon.
Our latest death was someone under 40 we,ve had 5 this week when we hadn't seen any in weeks our cases are sitting around 78 per day now when we were seeing 0-3 cases so it's moving quick here ...time will tell I guess ,,
 
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I know everyone keeps saying the only reason there arent being more hospitalizations are because its all young people and I've seen that aluded to in the news but also then what... none of these younger people have then seen their parents or grandparents to equally give it to them? They don't work with any over 45s?

Older people don't socialise?

Like I am in my 20s and I've socialised with friends but then I've also been to see my grandparents.. (who have socialised more than me!)

I'd have thought we'd at least be seeing more older people getting it or being hospitalised if the rise was down to a genuine rise in overall cases rather than just a rise in/targeted testing.

ONS are again still saying overall cases look to be leveling off not rising.
 
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Wax or threading? I normally have threading but as they hold the thread between the teeth I’m not sure what to do? Mine could have a postcode of their own, they are wild 😜


Just seen your post about the break in ,so sorry to hear that, as if you haven’t got enough going on. I hope they catch the bastard(s)
Normally waxing but I'm having the HD brows done on my next appoint. She's got plenty of eyebrow hair to work with.

I tried threading once and felt really self conscious as the lady doing asked if I wanted to my cheeks and top lip threading, I didn't even know they were that hairy 😳
 
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I know everyone keeps saying the only reason there arent being more hospitalizations are because its all young people and I've seen that aluded to in the news but also then what... none of these younger people have then seen their parents or grandparents to equally give it to them? They don't work with any over 45s?

Older people don't socialise?

Like I am in my 20s and I've socialised with friends but then I've also been to see my grandparents.. (who have socialised more than me!)

I'd have thought we'd at least be seeing more older people getting it or being hospitalised if the rise was down to a genuine rise in overall cases rather than just a rise in/targeted testing.

ONS are again still saying overall cases look to be leveling off not rising.
But how many households has the ONS tested ? they were saying the same thing a couple of weeks ago when they tested 54 people but still cities are places of concern, it's all so contradictory. I don't know about England but here people are being careful about visiting elderly relatives especially if they're in the vulnerable category ..
 
I know everyone keeps saying the only reason there arent being more hospitalizations are because its all young people and I've seen that aluded to in the news but also then what... none of these younger people have then seen their parents or grandparents to equally give it to them? They don't work with any over 45s?

Older people don't socialise?

Like I am in my 20s and I've socialised with friends but then I've also been to see my grandparents.. (who have socialised more than me!)

I'd have thought we'd at least be seeing more older people getting it or being hospitalised if the rise was down to a genuine rise in overall cases rather than just a rise in/targeted testing.

ONS are again still saying overall cases look to be leveling off not rising.
From my experience there’s a bigger delay than people realise, if you account for an average 10 days of being asymptotic then generally 2 weeks before a persons condition deteriorates enough to require hospital admission...ICU treatment can be anytime from a few weeks to longer.

I’d also say that many in the shielded category most likely to experience severe disease/death, myself included, who are lucky enough to still be working from home (but unlucky enough to be most likely to experience severe disease 🙄) are still keeping physical contact to an absolute minimum.

Just another perspective to consider 😅
 
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From my experience there’s a bigger delay than people realise, if you account for an average 10 days of being asymptotic then generally 2 weeks before a persons condition deteriorates enough to require hospital admission...ICU treatment can be anytime from a few weeks to longer.

I’d also say that many in the shielded category most likely to experience severe disease/death, myself included, who are lucky enough to still be working from home (but unlucky enough to be most likely to experience severe disease 🙄) are still keeping physical contact to an absolute minimum.

Just another perspective to consider 😅
Not forgetting the hundreds of people that die at home from it that don't feature in the numbers at all until the autopsy..
 
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Not forgetting the hundreds of people that die at home from it that don't feature in the numbers at all until the autopsy..
If they have tested positive for COVID then they are included within the numbers.
 
I mean, that’s not really what the issue with the numbers is. People on long term ventilators, or within hospitals would be included within the NHS figures. But little old Doreen from the care home, may well have tested positive and recovered fine and was well, but eventually passed to old age anyway. But let’s include her in the numbers we’ve convinced people are from the last 24 hours.

The numbers should be counted for correlations to be made in the future, but the way they were announcing the figures was misleading and quite frankly implanting unnecessary fear into people.


If they’ve tested positive then yes they do.
I'm talking about people that died at home from it and never went to hospital they can't be counted as a hospital admission if they were never there ..we're talking about currant hospital admissions as cases are rising ..

How do you go on a date in this coronavirus life?
with great difficulty unless you're a rule breaker ;)
 
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From my experience there’s a bigger delay than people realise, if you account for an average 10 days of being asymptotic then generally 2 weeks before a persons condition deteriorates enough to require hospital admission...ICU treatment can be anytime from a few weeks to longer.

I’d also say that many in the shielded category most likely to experience severe disease/death, myself included, who are lucky enough to still be working from home (but unlucky enough to be most likely to experience severe disease 🙄) are still keeping physical contact to an absolute minimum.

Just another perspective to consider 😅

Numbers have been up for longer than 10- 14 days. I would expect a least a small rise in admissions.

I do appreciate what you are saying about high risk or shielding individuals, but then some people on here also like to make the argument about how ANYONE can end up hospitalised or dying from covid and you never know because it's just SO deadly ... so it can't be both ways.

Anyway, was just giving a perspective as i'm just sick of people taking any positive data and making it fit a negative narrative tbh. I feel like there are some who genuinely won't be happy unless we do have a huge second wave and end up back in lockdown 🤷‍♀️
 
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I'm talking about people that died at home from it and never went to hospital they can't be counted as a hospital admission if they were never there ..we're talking about currant hospital admissions as cases are rising ..


with great difficulty unless you're a rule breaker ;)
But they’d still be included in the death figures, so it would still reflect upon the situation? If deaths started increasing whilst hospital admissions were falling it would indicate an issue, but would be picked up on in the ONS stats. People have died at home from it, but that doesn’t make a difference to the fact all the figures have fell like admissions, ventilated patients and deaths at the same time.
 
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But they’d still be included in the death figures, so it would still reflect upon the situation? If deaths started increasing whilst hospital admissions were falling it would indicate an issue, but would be picked up on in the ONS stats. People have died at home from it, but that doesn’t make a difference to the fact all the figures have fell like admissions, ventilated patients and deaths at the same time.
From my experience there’s a bigger delay than people realise, if you account for an average 10 days of being asymptotic then generally 2 weeks before a persons condition deteriorates enough to require hospital admission...ICU treatment can be anytime from a few weeks to longer.

I’d also say that many in the shielded category most likely to experience severe disease/death, myself included, who are lucky enough to still be working from home (but unlucky enough to be most likely to experience severe disease 🙄) are still keeping physical contact to an absolute minimum.

Just another perspective to consider.
 
Numbers have been up for longer than 10- 14 days. I would expect a least a small rise in admissions.

I do appreciate what you are saying about high risk or shielding individuals, but then some people on here also like to make the argument about how ANYONE can end up hospitalised or dying from covid and you never know because it's just SO deadly ... so it can't be both ways.

Anyway, was just giving a perspective as i'm just sick of people taking any positive data and making it fit a negative narrative tbh. I feel like there are some who genuinely won't be happy unless we do have a huge second wave and end up back in lockdown 🤷‍♀️
Admissions rose quick enough once the virus was in the country. Albeit we weren’t distancing at that time but it’d be foolish to think most people are visiting others and sticking to distancing. We still have no patients in my hospital, we’ve barely seen any potential cases either from what I’ve heard. You’d expect to see something. It’s nearly been a month since the first indication of rising cases but the other figures don’t match.
 
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Braved ikea tonight 1st time in 2020. It was busy and not great social distancing.

Im not sure if i had chikd who just done a levels i would say defer for a year until this mess is sorted as paying 9k a year for online and not full social experience is crap or i would say do ou.

Not much sympathy moaning tourists about france.
They knew the risks the government did the right thing.
 
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From my experience there’s a bigger delay than people realise, if you account for an average 10 days of being asymptotic then generally 2 weeks before a persons condition deteriorates enough to require hospital admission...ICU treatment can be anytime from a few weeks to longer.

I’d also say that many in the shielded category most likely to experience severe disease/death, myself included, who are lucky enough to still be working from home (but unlucky enough to be most likely to experience severe disease 🙄) are still keeping physical contact to an absolute minimum.

Just another perspective to consider.
I’ve already read what you’ve put above and already considered your perspective. I know how it works, I work on an ICU.

Re-quoting it to what I put doesn’t really make much sense. We were discussing deaths at home. Realistically from the initial rise in infections, we’d expect to see an indication of rises in admissions, maybe only small but those who are extremely vulnerable. But we’re seeing nothing.
 
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