Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #109

[Mrs_honestyx4]

You sound incredibly privileged. For many the idea of pubs shops restaurants and beauty salons shutting means anxiety and fear over their livelihoods. For many the idea of not being able to go to the shops or pub or restaurant or beauty salon means detrimental things to their mental health. For many not being able to see loved ones means detrimental things to their mental health. What is the point of having 3 vaccines if the answer is to completely shut down constantly?

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with spending and eating.

 

[EmilyChambers]

What anxiety does it cause? What's the worse that can happen if there is a lockdown? Have people forgotten how many died after Christmas last year? The only worry I ever have is the kids and vunreable people with a poor life becoming invisible but shops, pubs and all that being shut doesn't really affect me?

Oh well, let's shut it all down if it doesnt affect you.

What about people who work in those places?

 

[Kim Mild]

What anxiety does it cause? What's the worse that can happen if there is a lockdown? Have people forgotten how many died after Christmas last year? The only worry I ever have is the kids and vunreable people with a poor life becoming invisible but shops, pubs and all that being shut doesn't really affect me?

People who already have anxiety like to plan and have a routine and predictability . The threat of restrictions or even the threat of change can make things more difficult than it needs to be for people .

 

[panache]

Vaccine passports being required for church sent a chill down my spine! My husband is from Albania and grew up under Enver Hoxha's regime and one of the first things that the Communists did was to close down quite a lot of mosques and churches and basically discredit religion as far as possible.
Probably because it was seen as a threat because it wasn't under state control and they wanted increasing secularisation?
Possibly the same reason that for example Sufism (quite powerful within Albania and Turkey) has been increasing persecuted and censored in recent times?
Yes I'm going off on a bit of a tangent here but I have heard of people suggesting that the powers that be want all of us living under a kind of communist regime?
I.e you will own nothing and be happy etc etc ..
So limiting people's access to churches or making it accessible only for those that follow the party line and get vaccinated up to the eyeballs and show a passport to prove it is very sinister imo?
I know a lot of people who go to church and I did myself when I was younger (religious family) and what I remember the most was the sense of community and support?
It was always seen as the one place if you will that was open and available to all regardless of people's status? It's a place that for example does work for the community such as providing meals for the homeless etc also running toddler playgroups and nurturing friendships and support?
A free place and space where people could get together and feel welcome and communicate and share interests and help each other out?
Now they want to severely limit that or make it a conformist choice?
It's just another manifestation of control over us isn't it? This time it's belief systems and yes our spiritual lives?
Also in these times of increasing isolation they are slowly chipping away at people's sense of community or altruism or religion as a source of solace or refuge?
This to me is just evil tbh?

Interesting views and laws on religion (and racism ) here In Quebec

In June a bill was passed that forbids teachers and government workers from wearing religious symbols

Thjs includes hijabs,kippas and turbans

A teacher last week was removed from her position for wearing a hijab

 

[Tippingpoint23]

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with spending and eating.

I’m sorry but people aren’t obsessed with spending and eating. People do it for socialisation, for fun (not a crime to want to have fun) or because you know what they bloody well want to go for dinner and shop. Just because your mental wellness doesn’t depend on it doesn’t mean everyone else is the same as you.

 

[judgejohndeed]

It’s not healthy or normal to spend weeks indoors on your own not able to see friends or family cba with people who think lockdowns are no big deal, good for you for having no kind of social life I guess?

 

[Tippingpoint23]

It’s not healthy or normal to spend weeks indoors on your own not able to see friends or family cba with people who think lockdowns are no big deal, good for you for having no kind of social life I guess?

Honestly couldn’t agree more. Can’t believe there are people who seem outraged people might dare want to go for dinner or drinks or shopping

 

[Kim Mild]

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with spending and eating.

Maybe people feel rather trapped if they can't go out and about as they please.
Doing things for fun / leisure is important for well-being for a lot of people

And it is supporting local businesses.

I went out to eat recently, as a treat and it really kind of perked me up a bit. People don't have to be denied that because they have food in the house.

 

[EmilyChambers]

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with spending and eating.

And again, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THOSE PLACES?!

What about their mental wellness because they lose their jobs and income?

It amazes me how wilfully ignorant and selfish people are when it comes down to it and how they can't think beyond themselves and the I'm alright Jack mentality.

Selfishness and ignorance are not attractive qualities and make for nasty, bitter and unhappy people

 

[Merpedy]

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with spending and eating.

I definitely agree to an extent. A lot of the conversation around lockdowns seems to come from fairly privileged places. There's not much talk about the people who are going to be stuck at home alone or in a bad situation (unless they're domestic abuse victims of course) or the general repetitiveness of day to day life in lockdown/working from home

I would say the Conservative Party are about as far removed from communism as you could possibly get

If anything they seem fairly friendly with religion in general. Churches/places of worship seem to have escaped a lot of the softer restrictions

 

[Mrs_honestyx4]

No I live in a council house and work minmum wage and so does my husband. Don't have a lot of money but I'd rather have a good mental health wellness than need to spend money and be fearful of restaurants, pubs and shops shutting down? I find people are just obsessed with s

And again, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THOSE PLACES?!

What about their mental wellness because they lose their jobs and income?

It amazes me how wilfully ignorant and selfish people are when it comes down to it and how they can't think beyond themselves and the I'm alright Jack mentality.

Selfishness and ignorance are not attractive qualities and make for nasty, bitter and unhappy people

Do you not think there are too many restaurants or coffee shops anyway in the first place? We already had a national crisis on our hands due to the awful diet and overweight people. It was damaging our bodies anyway?

 

[GarlicSausage]

It’s not healthy or normal to spend weeks indoors on your own not able to see friends or family cba with people who think lockdowns are no big deal, good for you for having no kind of social life I guess?

I'm not someone with an incredible good social life and I thought lockdowns wouldn't bother me. I couldn't cope with not seeing my family and I couldn't cope with them seeing how worked up and emotional I was to just stand and see them in the garden or from the windows. I wouldn't even open my curtains and I just sat with the news on the tv constantly. About a month into lockdown my family staged an intervention and I moved back home. If they didn't I'd probably haven't taken my own life. So lockdowns are scary to me. Maybe because I have OCD but I'm Just putting my two pence in. For me it another one would be W big deal, I never want to feel that low again.

 

[panache]

It’s not healthy or normal to spend weeks indoors on your own not able to see friends or family cba with people who think lockdowns are no big deal, good for you for having no kind of social life I guess?

Maybe people feel rather trapped if they can't go out and about as they please.
Doing things for fun / leisure is important for well-being for a lot of people

The poster would probably also support the no singing or dancing rule we have here in Quebec

Fun strictly prohibited.

It reminds me of Footloose . People will start rebelling and dancing all over the place

 

[Scottishfalpal1]

Been taking a lateral flow test the last few days, had to have a PCR test yesterday as I was a close contact. Still waiting for result after 24 hours

 

[GarlicSausage]

Honestly couldn’t agree more. Can’t believe there are people who seem outraged people might dare want to go for dinner or drinks or shopping

I haven't been to a food shop since March 2019. I'm planning on doing in store Christmas shopping this week and I'm terrified.

 

[judgejohndeed]

Talking of mental well-being - in my job I have to look at a lot of horrible medical evidence, deal with some not so nice people, often given verbal abuse etc. It really affects my mental health when I have to bring this work into my ‘home’. One of the only ways to cope with the nasty stuff I have to see at work is by leaving it at work and NOT bringing it home. I won’t be furloughed because I’m self employed and I had to keep doing my job throughout all the lockdowns. Lockdown is not good for the mental health of people who do my job and I don’t even do some of the nastier work anymore like child abuse cases, horrible crimes etc. Honestly good for you if it doesn’t affect you but you’re in the minority.

 

[panache]

Honestly couldn’t agree more. Can’t believe there are people who seem outraged people might dare want to go for dinner or drinks or shopping

The same people who usually tell us how we're all selfish and should care about others

 

[Tippingpoint23]

I haven't been to a food shop since March 2019. I'm planning on doing in store Christmas shopping this week and I'm terrified.

I’d like to add I’m not commenting on people who are afraid of it I get that. I’m commenting the poster that seemed outraged people enjoy shopping for fun!

 

[panache]

And again, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THOSE PLACES?!

What about their mental wellness because they lose their jobs and income?

It amazes me how wilfully ignorant and selfish people are when it comes down to it and how they can't think beyond themselves and the I'm alright Jack mentality.

Selfishness and ignorance are not attractive qualities and make for nasty, bitter and unhappy people

They're also trying to earn a living so they can take care of the children the poster claims to be concerned about

 

[GarlicSausage]

I’d like to add I’m not commenting on people who are afraid of it I get that. I’m commenting the poster that seemed outraged people enjoy shopping for fun!

No I know I thought I'd just share my experience since there's been a few comments about how lockdown wouldn't be a big deal or people being obsessed with going places.