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I'm fed up if the different rules for government .


I'm fed up if the perpetual lie that vaccines block transmission.

I'm extra fed up that once again their idiocy may lead to 2 half term circuit breakers/ mini lockdown ruining October and Xmas again.
Clearly school have an impact on infections yet they keep denying they do and refusing vaccinate teenagers.


Irreversible my arse. Cost of summer of freedom.
Dreading September.
Leaders (elected or not) should be...leaders and lead by example. Your UK current Gov have never done that (Matt Handick or whatever its name is). all the 'private' Gov contracts that the little guys and ladies earning £8.91 per hour have to pay for
 
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I'm fed up if the different rules for government .


I'm fed up if the perpetual lie that vaccines block transmission.

I'm extra fed up that once again their idiocy may lead to 2 half term circuit breakers/ mini lockdown ruining October and Xmas again.
Clearly school have an impact on infections yet they keep denying they do and refusing vaccinate teenagers.


Irreversible my arse. Cost of summer of freedom.
Dreading September.
Does anyone really think that if this was all that bad that they would honestly risk the health of the future King and his family, regardless of being vaccinated?

Same happened at the G7 summit, all of the leaders were allowed right up to The Queen with no quarantine at all.
Don't give me the "they were all tested" spiel, because we know how inaccurate LFT tests are, and we know you can be negative one day and positive the next, so still potentially infectious before that positive test.

In theory we can't continue without world leaders, but they seem to be able to risk their health and their colleagues health, and royalties health.

The ordinary joe though has to spunk over 2k to stay at the governments quarantine hotels or fly home early to avoid that cost, meaning they lose the money they've spent on that holiday because they're just so dirty and dangerous to society, again, regardless of vaccination status and testing.

These ministers are still mixing with the public and media, so no one can argue that they aren't as much risk - everyone they mix with all have families and kids who work and socialise, so able to spread their germs into a community.
Their germs aren't as dirty as ours though!

Infections haven't been broken because it's the school holidays, it's that parents aren't testing all the time. There is still absolutely no need imo to vaccinate anyone of school age as we have herd immunity with the figures they give us, but that's an argument for another thread
 
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Does anyone really think that if this was all that bad that they would honestly risk the health of the future King and his family, regardless of being vaccinated?

Same happened at the G7 summit, all of the leaders were allowed right up to The Queen with no quarantine at all.
Don't give me the "they were all tested" spiel, because we know how inaccurate LFT tests are, and we know you can be negative one day and positive the next, so still potentially infectious before that positive test.

In theory we can't continue without world leaders, but they seem to be able to risk their health and their colleagues health, and royalties health.

The ordinary joe though has to spunk over 2k to stay at the governments quarantine hotels or fly home early to avoid that cost, meaning they lose the money they've spent on that holiday because they're just so dirty and dangerous to society, again, regardless of vaccination status and testing.

These ministers are still mixing with the public and media, so no one can argue that they aren't as much risk - everyone they mix with all have families and kids who work and socialise, so able to spread their germs into a community.
Their germs aren't as dirty as ours though!

Infections haven't been broken because it's the school holidays, it's that parents aren't testing all the time. There is still absolutely no need imo to vaccinate anyone of school age as we have herd immunity with the figures they give us, but that's an argument for another thread
I have gone the whole pandemic without knowing anyone who has had covid. Now myself and my family has, my neighbours, my work colleagues. I am not convinced we are in a decline. It seems to be worse out there right now then this time last year. This is including double vaccinated people catching it and being hit hard too. Vaccines are not a protector.

So there’s an even more stronger case for people to follow the guidelines. Officials included,
 
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I could be mistaken but I believe the same caveat seems to apply to this as applied one of the previous comparisons of vaccinated vs unvaccinated death% (I think also sourced from a technical briefing) - these cases are of those admitted to emergency care, not the overall population case rate.

However, as presented it does seem to suggest that if you get symptoms bad enough to need emergency care then the chance of dying is reduced if vaxxed and significantly so if over 50.

That said, the key question would surely be what proportion of vaxxed vs unvaxxed are getting it severely enough to need emergency care in the first place?
 
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Thanks for posting this. I do not pay for a TV Licence (100% legal - i dont watch live TV nor does any of my immediate family and neighbours). Its legal to read/watch Tattle links though :). Every one has equal choice about Vaccines upto them.

The conspiracy things are on a different thread. Take both/all vaccines offered to you. As soon as they are offered. Students are busy people i know 6 hours study 6 hours bar work 6 hours clubbing :). Takes 30 seconds to have a jab (so 1 minute for 2 jabs). Most on here are 'older' folks, parents etc you can 'order' your kids to get it done. Do it.
 
Anyone's 16/17 year old been invited for their jab yet? On Facebook, a pharmacy is advertising it is doing Walk ins for 16 and 17 year olds, but I haven't heard anything about it . I was expecting my 16 year old to get a letter from the gp surgery when they were doing that age group, like we did .
 
Does anyone really think that if this was all that bad that they would honestly risk the health of the future King and his family, regardless of being vaccinated?

Same happened at the G7 summit, all of the leaders were allowed right up to The Queen with no quarantine at all.
Don't give me the "they were all tested" spiel, because we know how inaccurate LFT tests are, and we know you can be negative one day and positive the next, so still potentially infectious before that positive test.

In theory we can't continue without world leaders, but they seem to be able to risk their health and their colleagues health, and royalties health.

The ordinary joe though has to spunk over 2k to stay at the governments quarantine hotels or fly home early to avoid that cost, meaning they lose the money they've spent on that holiday because they're just so dirty and dangerous to society, again, regardless of vaccination status and testing.

These ministers are still mixing with the public and media, so no one can argue that they aren't as much risk - everyone they mix with all have families and kids who work and socialise, so able to spread their germs into a community.
Their germs aren't as dirty as ours though!

Infections haven't been broken because it's the school holidays, it's that parents aren't testing all the time. There is still absolutely no need imo to vaccinate anyone of school age as we have herd immunity with the figures they give us, but that's an argument for another thread
This is exactly what I keep banging on about, and have done throughout, but if people still choose to believe what they hear rather than what they see with their own eyes then they are never going to see the truth of it.

No wonder the rich and powerful laugh at us and keep us down. Even those who pride themselves on being very intelligent cant see through this because real intelligence has F-all to do with academics, those people are schooled, not educated.
Those same people call Boris an idiot, he isn't a idiot, you are the idiots for falling for this BS and not only falling for it but making up little scenarios and excuses for the BS and trying to patiently explain the BS to those who see right through it.
 
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Does anyone really think that if this was all that bad that they would honestly risk the health of the future King and his family, regardless of being vaccinated?

Same happened at the G7 summit, all of the leaders were allowed right up to The Queen with no quarantine at all.
Don't give me the "they were all tested" spiel, because we know how inaccurate LFT tests are, and we know you can be negative one day and positive the next, so still potentially infectious before that positive test.

In theory we can't continue without world leaders, but they seem to be able to risk their health and their colleagues health, and royalties health.

The ordinary joe though has to spunk over 2k to stay at the governments quarantine hotels or fly home early to avoid that cost, meaning they lose the money they've spent on that holiday because they're just so dirty and dangerous to society, again, regardless of vaccination status and testing.

These ministers are still mixing with the public and media, so no one can argue that they aren't as much risk - everyone they mix with all have families and kids who work and socialise, so able to spread their germs into a community.
Their germs aren't as dirty as ours though!

Infections haven't been broken because it's the school holidays, it's that parents aren't testing all the time. There is still absolutely no need imo to vaccinate anyone of school age as we have herd immunity with the figures they give us, but that's an argument for another thread
Double vaccinated Sharma meets double vaccinated Charles. They are far enough away from each other in the photo and both probably took a PCR test before meeting up to make sure. This isn't the conspiracy thread.
 
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I wonder how long they can keep going with incentives we know it’s not a once in a lifetime jab 🤷🏼‍♀️ We’re 3/4 weeks away from the reopening of schools with code blacks already being declared..,can’t wait for winter 🥶
 
Double vaccinated Sharma meets double vaccinated Charles. They are far enough away from each other in the photo and both probably took a PCR test before meeting up to make sure. This isn't the conspiracy thread.
What about G7 all wearing masks and SD for the official photos and as soon as the cameras were off they were hugging and maskless. Nothing CT about pointing this BS out
 
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I wonder how long they can keep going with incentives we know it’s not a once in a lifetime jab 🤷🏼‍♀️ We’re 3/4 weeks away from the reopening of schools with code blacks already being declared..,can’t wait for winter 🥶
Hospitals struggling isn't a new thing. The brand new episode this week of Casualty 24/7 filmed at Barnsley hospital recorded before the pandemic has a bed shortage and no beds available in the whole of Yorkshire for children....


Hospitals were built decades ago. In that time the population has sky rocketed not helped by do gooders wanting to allow anyone on to our island no matter what. Now those same sized hospitals that were fine at the time they were built are far too small to cope in the modern day.
 
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Hospitals struggling isn't a new thing. The brand new episode this week of Casualty 24/7 filmed at Barnsley hospital recorded before the pandemic has a bed shortage and no beds available in the whole of Yorkshire for children....


Hospitals were built decades ago. In that time the population has sky rocketed not helped by do gooders wanting to allow anyone on to our island no matter what. Now those same sized hospitals that were fine at the time they were built are far too small to cope in the modern day.
No it's not but we've never ( to my knowledge ) declared code blacks in summer ,it doesn't give me much hope for winter as nothing much is going to change only a worsening situation .
 
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What about G7 all wearing masks and SD for the official photos and as soon as the cameras were off they were hugging and maskless. Nothing CT about pointing this BS out
The masks and social distancing were completely pointless as everyone there will have had a PCR test to form their own bubble that the public could get nowhere near.
 
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Hospitals struggling isn't a new thing. The brand new episode this week of Casualty 24/7 filmed at Barnsley hospital recorded before the pandemic has a bed shortage and no beds available in the whole of Yorkshire for children....


Hospitals were built decades ago. In that time the population has sky rocketed not helped by do gooders wanting to allow anyone on to our island no matter what. Now those same sized hospitals that were fine at the time they were built are far too small to cope in the modern day.
A huge amount of hospitals were closed. My own large London town had three hospitals and two were closed and the nearest A&E was in Harlow Essex .

The masks and social distancing were completely pointless as everyone there will have had a PCR test to form their own bubble that the public could get nowhere near.
Just Biden on his own travelled with 400 entourage, that's without all the other heads of state and their entourage then all the workers there. Each one of those would have friends and family who had been with them in the days before. Are you telling me they all tested neg as well?
 
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It’s a mystery how NI are top of the table and rising with numbers like this
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I could be mistaken but I believe the same caveat seems to apply to this as applied one of the previous comparisons of vaccinated vs unvaccinated death% (I think also sourced from a technical briefing) - these cases are of those admitted to emergency care, not the overall population case rate.

However, as presented it does seem to suggest that if you get symptoms bad enough to need emergency care then the chance of dying is reduced if vaxxed and significantly so if over 50.

That said, the key question would surely be what proportion of vaxxed vs unvaxxed are getting it severely enough to need emergency care in the first place?
It depends on the variant too. Latest stats show that viral load of some variants is the same whether vaccinated or not so it’s not even reducing transmission for some variants so depends how you look at it.

I think from the stats it’s clear the the vaccine is only more effective id say marginally rather than signficantly I don’t believe a difference of 4% is that considerable, it seems to be more effective in vulnerable age groups which is what was suspected all along but that of course is shouted down by everyone who thinks it’s everyone else’s responsibility to take a vaccine.
 
What about G7 all wearing masks and SD for the official photos and as soon as the cameras were off they were hugging and maskless. Nothing CT about pointing this BS out
Most workplaces are probably like that behind the scenes. All ppe and stuff where people will see them, then they are sitting beside each in the staff room .
 
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Double vaccinated Sharma meets double vaccinated Charles. They are far enough away from each other in the photo and both probably took a PCR test before meeting up to make sure. This isn't the conspiracy thread.
Did you not see the G7 pictures?

Everyone was being super good for the cameras with standing socially distanced. Then someone on the inside leaked the pictures of them hugging, shaking hands, eating and drinking all standing up - you know, all the thing double vaccinated and willing to test frequently people weren't allowed to do, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if when the cameras were put away that Sharma and Charles didn't get close.

Thats no conspiracy, so please don't throw that around, it's plain to see and nothing conspiratorial about it.

However, how do you argue your defence when over 70% of people are double vaccinated and still can't travel freely to and from red countries? They tick all the same boxes as the important people
 
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