Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #101

[Cupcakemum]

Correct me if I'm wrong chaps but I seem to remember a massive difference in deaths this time last year also and we didn't have the vaccine.
Or threats of missing out on things if non vaccinated

Deaths are almost identical(if not slightly higher now), but we have 10s of thousands more cases now, even with vaccines.
Read into that what you will.
You can either say that vaccines are stopping deaths, or that vaccines are creating a problem with spread. Remembering that masks weren't mandatory this time last year, and we had freedom to do pretty much anything just like now and no vaccines or herd immunity at all

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

Fully-vaccinated who catch Covid may be JUST as infectious as unjabbed

Public Health England say viral loads appear similar among infected people in both groups, meaning, theoretically, they are equally contagious.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Stories like that are going to make people less likely to take the jabs.

 

[Lullabella22]

I would phone test and trace sounds like someone has given a fake number and used yours!

i can’t find a way to contact them have to wait for them to contact me I think. Ahhh it’s so stressful.

 

[monga]

i can’t find a way to contact them have to wait for them to contact me I think. Ahhh it’s so stressful.

There should be a number attached to the text or else look on the Gov site you can ring them I've rung them a couple of times .

 

[Prefrontalmedialcortex]

i can’t find a way to contact them have to wait for them to contact me I think. Ahhh it’s so stressful.

If you call 119 you can choose an option to talk to Test and Trace. Hope that helps.

 

[Lisdiz]

Deaths are almost identical(if not slightly higher now), but we have 10s of thousands more cases now, even with vaccines.
Read into that what you will.
You can either say that vaccines are stopping deaths, or that vaccines are creating a problem with spread. Remembering that masks weren't mandatory this time last year, and we had freedom to do pretty much anything just like now and no vaccines or herd immunity at all

I think vaccines have created an issue. I have been in isolation for what feels like forever, first stepping out into the world at large today.
Before I had to isolate, week one of freedom day, people were wearing masks.
I live in Devon. So many out of towners around not wearing masks, and even as someone on the CT board this pisses me off.

Believe it or not, I am still wearing mine. Mainly because although I have the all clear to be out in public again, I feel the need to protect others, if even slightly by my mask. I feel vaccines have made people over confident. The messages that vaccinated people are safeer then the unvaccinated haven’t help either.
We could debate the wearing of masks etc, but the lack of them denotes a huge shift in attitude and that’s something we are all vulnerable too.

Covid is not fun, even with a mild dose. Yes we have to learn to live with it, but the messages from this government is all wrong.
Just look what idiot man is doing today ( also why I have no defences stoping me from calling him a prick )

 

[Lullabella22]

If you call 119 you can choose an option to talk to Test and Trace. Hope that helps.

thank you…on hold

 

[Pearshaped]

I’m currently recovering from COVID ( 13days from symptoms starting) so pretty much on the mend thankfully and now out of isolation .. I am double vaccinated and had what is described as mild symptoms (didn’t feel mild .. horrid) but I didn’t end up in hospital so really happy, could have been so much worse .

Anyway once I had my positive PCR test my COVID-19 vaccine passport disappeared from the NHS app. It now states no records found. I’m assuming to stop people traveling when positive?.
My question is has anyone else had this happen, if so does your passport come back and how long does it take. I called 119 today but the operator hadn’t got a clue .. said it might come back in a few weeks ? Meant to be travelling in a weeks time

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

Deaths are almost identical(if not slightly higher now), but we have 10s of thousands more cases now, even with vaccines.
Read into that what you will.
You can either say that vaccines are stopping deaths, or that vaccines are creating a problem with spread. Remembering that masks weren't mandatory this time last year, and we had freedom to do pretty much anything just like now and no vaccines or herd immunity at all

Last summer we had far more rules and the Kent variant wasn't anywhere near as infectious as the Indian one is. We have to hope we don't get another variant that spreads even quicker or restrictions will return. Plans are already in place for them.

Emergency plans for 'firebreak' lockdowns this winter 'if NHS on the brink'

THE government has drawn up plans for winter ‘firebreak’ lockdowns, it’s reported. If the NHS risks being “tipped to the brink” restrictions during school holidays cou…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[monga]

Last summer we had far more rules and the Kent variant wasn't anywhere near as infectious as the Indian one is. We have to hope we don't get another variant that spreads even quicker or restrictions will return. Plans are already in place for them.

Emergency plans for 'firebreak' lockdowns this winter 'if NHS on the brink'

THE government has drawn up plans for winter ‘firebreak’ lockdowns, it’s reported. If the NHS risks being “tipped to the brink” restrictions during school holidays cou…

www.thesun.co.uk

No more lockdowns … I bet this is on your Crimbo list

 

[Cupcakemum]

Last summer we had far more rules and the Kent variant wasn't anywhere near as infectious as the Indian one is. We have to hope we don't get another variant that spreads even quicker or restrictions will return. Plans are already in place for them.

Emergency plans for 'firebreak' lockdowns this winter 'if NHS on the brink'

THE government has drawn up plans for winter ‘firebreak’ lockdowns, it’s reported. If the NHS risks being “tipped to the brink” restrictions during school holidays cou…

www.thesun.co.uk

At this time last year the only difference we had was clubs were still shut, everything else was the same, bar some places up north who were hit with a local lockdown

Everything you can and can't do from today according to the new lockdown changes

Some areas of England have seen Covid-19 cases rise and have been hit with local lockdown measures - whether you live in these areas or not there are some key changes you need to know

www-northantslive-news.cdn.ampproject.org

I called restrictions coming in September a while back, you can literally predict everything, and have been able to do for around a year

 

[monga]

The Columbian one is said to be even worse than the Delta that's the one they think is in Florida but the US don't sequence as much as the UK .

 

[AllSeeingEye123]

No more lockdowns … I bet this is on your Crimbo list View attachment 700660

Something possibly for Christmas to get the young girls in my family so they have a real female role model to look up to not some stupid influencer or reality TV person

Herd immunity slips further away as vaccine uptake among England’s yo…

archived 6 Aug 2021 20:53:59 UTC

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It seems the French go running for a vaccine at the first sign of a bribe to be able to keep doing things, unlike the UK.

 

[Cupcakemum]

The Columbian one is said to be even worse than the Delta that's the one they think is in Florida but the US don't sequence as much as the UK .

There will always be something else, it's a virus and it will always change. That's why the cock and bull passports and mandatory vaccines are pointless. Even if everyone took a jab it will never change, even the scientists have said that. Viruses are built to evade immunity and survive, its not a new thing, its centurys old basic science.
The only difference with this is the fear mongering that's gone with it

 

[monga]

There will always be something else, it's a virus and it will always change. That's why the cock and bull passports and mandatory vaccines are pointless. Even if everyone took a jab it will never change, even the scientists have said that. Viruses are built to evade immunity and survive, its not a new thing, its centurys old basic science.
The only difference with this is the fear mongering that's gone with it

Yeah especially as it’s been found in the animal kingdom so it’s just not possible

 

[fireflies]

The Columbian one is said to be even worse than the Delta that's the one they think is in Florida but the US don't sequence as much as the UK .

Interesting what's source of that?
Amazed 7 case Colombian varient in Belgian nursing home.
Saying that there's total sequence in uk of 37 cases so far 5 this week.

 

[Cupcakemum]

Yeah especially as it’s been found in the animal kingdom so it’s just not possible View attachment 700718

I feel there's a story here, but that it might have already been done

 

[monga]

Interesting what's source of that?
Amazed 7 case Colombian varient in Belgian nursing home.
Saying that there's total sequence in uk of 37 cases so far 5 this week.

I put the graphs etc earlier on the thread but this is a recent article https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/8/3/22607538/florida-covid-variant-severe-dangerous

 

[Notgonnalie]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

 

[fireflies]

I'm fed up if the different rules for government .

‘One rule for them’: Alok Sharma criticised over flights to 30 countries

Cop26 president accused of undermining climate effort after visiting 30 countries in seven months

www.theguardian.com

I'm fed up if the perpetual lie that vaccines block transmission.

I'm extra fed up that once again their idiocy may lead to 2 half term circuit breakers/ mini lockdown ruining October and Xmas again.
Clearly school have an impact on infections yet they keep denying they do and refusing vaccinate teenagers.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/government-starts-planning-firebreak-covid-247071

Irreversible my arse. Cost of summer of freedom.
Dreading September.