She researched a documentary about the Nigerian cult.Supposedly of course but a researcher can mean anything.
She researched a documentary about the Nigerian cult.Supposedly of course but a researcher can mean anything.
At your pregnancy booking in appointment they do ask questions such as if you have ever had involvement with social services. I can’t remember how they word it but they also ask if you have any family members that are on the sex offenders register and/or is a convicted sex offender. I remember being really surprised at that question!I doubt they could monitor it in visitors to be honest? Admitted obviously unless you lie (as CM did) they’d have a lot of data to link with but I don’t recall them asking my OH for much personal info beyond his name when I gave birth so unless you were Gary Glitter or someone with a similarly high profile case or very distinctive name, how would they know?
Exactly, I don’t know how they could monitor it, but especially now that dad’s are often allowed to stay overnight, it’s got to have been considered. Interesting.I doubt they could monitor it in visitors to be honest? Admitted obviously unless you lie (as CM did) they’d have a lot of data to link with but I don’t recall them asking my OH for much personal info beyond his name when I gave birth so unless you were Gary Glitter or someone with a similarly high profile case or very distinctive name, how would they know?
I’ve got copies of my notes so just checked. They ask if you or partner have or had a previous social worker or probation officer.At your pregnancy booking in appointment they do ask questions such as if you have ever had involvement with social services. I can’t remember how they word it but they also ask if you have any family members that are on the sex offenders register and/or is a convicted sex offender.
Apologies for being that person but women can be sex offenders too.Exactly, I don’t know how they could monitor it, but especially now that dad’s are often allowed to stay overnight, it’s got to have been considered. Interesting.
There is. Its must be flagged somewhere else as my sons birth mother concealed her pregnancy for 6 months and it was eventually flagged when she was arrested. It can't be all on the basis of the mothers response and if it is that is not a good system.They ask these questions to identify mothers and babies who need extra support or safeguarding. There must be another way to check families with known social issues as otherwise everyone would just say no.
I’m glad to hear your little Grandson was well after treatment xIt’s not unfeasible that the baby caught a ‘cold’ type virus. She was confined for long periods in taxis with drivers who could have been suffering from what only would be a cold to them (no blame), which considerably It was cold virus season and people would be consistently in and out of there taxis, wouldn’t be too unrealistic.
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My newborn grandson contracted RSV (the respiratory syncytial virus) a type of cold for you and me. His breathing rapidly became wheezy and laboured. The paramedics my daughter called were fab and arrived within minutes. He was admitted to hospital for a few days of oxygen, ng feeds and suction and was thankfully soon on the road to recovery.
I wonder if CM and MG would be tuned into any illness like this and act appropriately? They certainly didn’t for MG’s feet.
CM could believe the baby’s death happened as she says, when actually it didn’t, or they could just be making something up.
I wouldn’t trust their judgement or truthfulness.
Yeah I thought the same, was asked about previous SW involvement, DV, drug and alcohol issues and also MH of myself and partner but never about SOs. I was regularly asked if I was safe and if anyone had threatened or harmed me (pretty much every appointment) despite having previous children, married to same partner, no previous social issues or risk factors.I’ve got copies of my notes so just checked. They ask if you or partner have or had a previous social worker or probation officer.
They can’t check everyone who says ‘no’ so no idea how they actually monitor, as some will absolutely lie - whether on panic impulse or deliberately!
I definitely wasn’t asked about SO though, and it’s not in the notes as a question (2018)
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Yes that’s the questions I had.Yeah I thought the same, was asked about previous SW involvement, DV, drug and alcohol issues and also MH of myself and partner but never about SOs. I was regularly asked if I was safe and if anyone had threatened or harmed me (pretty much every appointment) despite having previous children, married to same partner, no previous social issues or risk factors.
Also it was me who wondered if GG and HH were twins and I really think it's likely. From delivering in winter (likely Nov/Dec) of 17, the timescales would have to be incredibly tight to have birthed 2 further separate children before January 20. It fits with no details to further protect their identity and 2 babies with same initials in her album despite 1 being a boy and one being a girl, was it DAV? I'm thinking boy/girl twins.
Yes I just said him because MG is male and I was thinking specifically of him in my imaginary scenarioApologies for being that person but women can be sex offenders too.
It's cof that seems to be a boy and a girl.Yeah I thought the same, was asked about previous SW involvement, DV, drug and alcohol issues and also MH of myself and partner but never about SOs. I was regularly asked if I was safe and if anyone had threatened or harmed me (pretty much every appointment) despite having previous children, married to same partner, no previous social issues or risk factors.
Also it was me who wondered if GG and HH were twins and I really think it's likely. From delivering in winter (likely Nov/Dec) of 17, the timescales would have to be incredibly tight to have birthed 2 further separate children before January 20. It fits with no details to further protect their identity and 2 babies with same initials in her album despite 1 being a boy and one being a girl, was it DAV? I'm thinking boy/girl twins.
Yeah, I remember this but I equally don’t remember them asking for any specifics about my OH other than his name - so if theoretically I should have said yes but I’d lied and said no, I’m not sure how they could have checked?I’ve got copies of my notes so just checked. They ask if you or partner have or had a previous social worker or probation officer.
They can’t check everyone who says ‘no’ so no idea how they actually monitor, as some will absolutely lie - whether on panic impulse or deliberately!
I definitely wasn’t asked about SO though, and it’s not in the notes as a question (2018)
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No you're right. The children look chubby, happy and cared for. They are dressed appropriately and the pics with her in the children are turned into her and look perfectly fine. You'd never think anything was amiss.It honestly baffles me. Looking back through her pictures with the children, she looks well put together, as do the children. She looks like a happy doting mother. I fully understand that FB isnt a true reflection of real life and there was plenty going on under the surface but the love in her face for those children im sure was true, yet we sèen how she literally dragged the baby around in and out of her jacket the pram etc with seemingly no care, love or joy. I know there were issues with her parenting and SS involvement from the get go but no care proceedings were started till the beginning of 2020, so that's 2 whole years of her/them somewhat parenting and at least managing to keep their children alive, yes I know that's the bare minimum but given for poor baby Victoria they couldn't even manage that. I just don't get how the he'll it all came to this, what went so catastrophically wrong? I hate how much we are missing that would maybe paint a fuller picture.
Again I'm not trying to make excuses, it just doesn't make any sense to me and simply my own observations that those pictures are at odds with whatever the true story is.
It's mentioned in the podcast. Episode 2 I believe.I must have totally missed this! Do you know where roughly in the thread?