She did make it the Constance Marten Show though. Daddy Bear was portrayed as being the sidekick who just went along with what she decided.
The Clawshank Redemption.
- Notice
The Clawshank Redemption.
lucylucyapplejuicy
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I’m waiting for Mr Fitzgibbon’s conclusion ‘Constance: C:Caring O:Original N:Nice S:Smells good (now) T: Truthful A: Arabella N: Not at all naughty C: Claw clip E: Excellent…..I failed Latin so I’ve done an acrostic poem instead, errrr, she’s deffo innocent, BYE!’
Bleekemolen
Active member
One of the times that I was there, there was a social worker. Male and probably 50-60 years old. He has already done an interview with Sky given his take on it all and the probable outcome of this trial. A bit like the LL case, I’m sure the news channels have everything ready to go knowing the likely outcome of this trial.
I am not sure if we will ever hear the real story behind it all, but I don’t believe SS “just take” 4 children into care without a genuine concern/reason.
Without going into full details, he reassured me as well
InTheDollsHouse
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I’m ready
InTheDollsHouse
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Trial expected to end this week for the jury to begin deliberations.
Hopefully there will be some reporting today!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-trial-mark-gordon-latest-news-b2527615.html
There has been a casualty in my house…
Hopefully there will be some reporting today!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...n-trial-mark-gordon-latest-news-b2527615.html
There has been a casualty in my house…
Tofino
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I’m absolutely stunned at two more weeks of delays. This is far worse than Letby. The verdict is already on shaky ground being down to only 10 jurors and needing 9 for a majority. The legal submissions could even be the defence arguing about the delays, because whilst I don’t care for either of them, I imagine their legal teams will not be happy about the impact on the defendants waiting for a verdict. Unless the delays are due to one or both of them which can’t be reported (which would also be reasons for legal discussions). Hopefully all will become clear eventually but how frustrating.
mightytwins
Member
This is exactly what I've been saying ever since I did jury service 12 years ago. It made me lose faith in the jury system.
I've just listened to the latest Trial podcast episodes and along with ridiculous suggestions that them squashing their tiny baby between them in a flimsy tent, in the piss down rain without a fucking coat to her name is equitable to any description of 'co-sleeping' that people will recognise, I'm infuriated by them continuing to refer to her wanting to 'cremate' her baby. Setting fire to your dead newborns body with some petrol you got from the local garage is not a bloody cremation. It's absolutely gross that it continues to be referred to as this
InTheDollsHouse
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Just had my hair cut, tattlers. The hairdresser, when she finished, said YOU COULD PUT IT HALF UP IN A CLAW CLIP
Asterix
Well-known member
The forty-fifth of fuck knows. We live here now.
Marten | Size & Facts
Marten, (genus Martes), any of eight species of weasel-like carnivores of the genus Martes (family Mustelidae), found in Canada and parts of the United States and in the Old World from Europe to the Russian Far East, Taiwan, and the islands of Sumatra and Borneo. Differing in size and coloration
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A marten is a "weasel-like carnivore" just for good measure.
Why? This trial was due to finish ages ago, they may have booked holidays six months in advance of knowing anything about having to do jury duty. I wouldn’t be giving up time with my family (which I may have struggled to afford, coordinate diaries with people etc)
Tangent Tiger
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@influenzas you're a kind hearted person and of course there are extenuating circumstances.
The law has to be dispassionate though. They've let several children down, one fatally.
The law has to be dispassionate though. They've let several children down, one fatally.
missymunch
Member
Mr Munch recently did jury service . He was picked for a trial with 4 defendants lasting AT least 12 weeks they said . His company would only “top up “ his allowance from the court to his normal wage level . The issue is you claim the allowance at the end of the trial ! Therefore 3 months with no wages ! The judge excused him . He wanted to do it and asked the court could they give payment during trial every 4 weeks but they wouldn’t. This worries me as whole swathes of the population can NOT afford to attend jury service !
I only found out recently there is NO counselling afterwards and you are left to fend for yourself ! (I’m a therapist ) I have read that is changing.
I only found out recently there is NO counselling afterwards and you are left to fend for yourself ! (I’m a therapist ) I have read that is changing.
InchSchlong
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What I find to be the saddest thing is that if they'd have just accepted the involvement of authorities, accepted help and support, learnt how to parent, they'd likely be living a pretty comfortable life with all 5 of their children. It could have been so very different for all of them.
I see, day in day out, families who make monumental changes to turn their situation around to be able to keep their children, people who have led a life of crime become good, hard working people, those who use their experiences to educate. Why couldn't these two just try to do the right thing?!
I see, day in day out, families who make monumental changes to turn their situation around to be able to keep their children, people who have led a life of crime become good, hard working people, those who use their experiences to educate. Why couldn't these two just try to do the right thing?!
Gossngiggles
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I feel very sorry for the jury tbh. They were expecting this to be done with weeks ago, they have lives to live and all the stopping and starting and not knowing when it will end would make me feel really stressed out.
Sparklejeannie
Member
Evening Standard reporting a little more detail of Prosecution closing speech. "Jesus was born in a barn, Yes, but Bethlehem is hardly a Skiing destination"