People who don’t flourish on plant-based diets are simply rubbish at nutrition. Never fails to make me eye roll how one can go from a so-called vegan diet to eating factory farmed meat pumped with antibiotics and feel great
Heard all the “but your body needs (insert some dead animal here)” before. Your body doesn’t need meat or dairy and B12 is easy to supplement. Organic veggies are best but expensive - supermarket produce is problematic.
A few years ago it was “where do you get your protein from?” now it’s “
all vegan food is processed rubbish”
Over 60% of the people here are obese or overweight, there are kebab shops everywhere, yet people are getting in a huff about a few plant-based options. “Abstinence from beings with a soul” has been around since ancient societies so hardly novel. And if eating a sentient being meant “sticking it to the man” I’m fine as I am.
However, I do think something is afoot with food production and Gates being the biggest private owner of farmland in America etc. But they’ve put crap in soil/animal feed for decades that’s probably caused a lot of issues so likely more financial
Im not going to debate it as been there done that for many years, you do you and I will do me. Im not here to change anyone's mind
but those who go from vegan to carnivore do not eat anything from a supermarket. Most of is bought either from the local farm ( like I do) or online from a free-range farm. I'm not saying they all do but those I see do. No real vegan would eat factory-farmed animals after being vegan. if they did they were vegan due to trends, not ethics.
My daughter cooks everything from scratch everything is organic, she uses all the correct ingredients so not many supplements are needed, etc and so on she isn't a half-hearted type of person. but her health is failing she isn't healing from old injuries and is getting more and more little worrying things wrong with her.
she has been vegetarian, but mostly plant-based then fully vegan since age 9. she is now in her 40s
I myself have healed many things, the fewer carbs I have the better I feel and yes even fresh fruit brings my mood right down as do most starchy veg, pasta rice etc just forget it. I have absolutely nothing against vegans if I did I would have told my daughter at age 9 to shut up and eat dinner like many parents back then
We need animals roaming to put the goodness back into the soil, farming is not what it once was every year different crops, crop rotation mingled with raising cattle, cattle giving the earth what it needs
I do know one thing though. in a
tit hitting the fan scenario vegans won't make it very long, no way could you grow or stash enough food for a vegan long term. I know this as have a huge lot of food stored for my daughter and her family in comparison per person, my store is tiny. I can survive very easy on very little.
Veganism is mostly a rich country's luxury. I eat very little in comparison to my daughter and her children, they seem to graze all the time. All her vegan friends are the same. So for me, pescatarian, vegetarian fully doable in any situation due to the animal fats.
Never confuse veganism with spiritualism. the two don't go together only in the minds of those who feel they need to do this or that to become at one with everything. if you feel you need to do that then yes you do, you can purge, meditate, have a zillion chrystals and do all your shadow work or you can just be at one by just knowing, we are all one.
Anyway, that's all I have to say on this subject as it's a hard one for many. I hate it when I hear vegans slatted and I hate some people's ideas of what a carnivore is so it always ends in tears or fisty cuffs
To stick it to the man, we just need to not be divided no matter what we believe or what we eat.
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