Conspiracy Theories #11

[Clairer86]

I hope you dont mind me posting on here, i didnt know where else to post tbh.... Anyway, i come waving a white flag! lol.

As most of you know, im mainly on the anti CT thread. And i still stand by most of my beliefs but i just wanted to post on here about my own experience (i mentioned it briefly on the 'to vaccinate' thread.....

My partner got his letter through and he is adamant he isnt getting the jab. Im 34 so i havent received my letter yet. But the thing that worries me is the experience we had with our daughter and her jabs. She was born healthy, weighing 8ib 8oz at 37 weeks! Im naturally petite- well i was at the time, i was 8 stone soaking wet and 5ft2. My daughter was always so happy, always smiling, so content. I exclusively breast fed, i didnt smoke, drink, and was also really healthy. I stupidly went back to work when she was 6 months old so a few days a week she was in a nursery setting from 6 months old- so she was always socialising with other children. And at the weekends we always went out and explored and did things as a family. When she had her second set of jabs she literally changed overnight. My partner is 100% convinced the jabs changed her. I felt it was more of a coincidence, but there is no denying she changed. She changed and began to be poorly- full of cold, coughs, and generally not as happy. She is now 5 and has hearing problems and she also has to see a speech therapist and is behind her peers in school. The more i think about it the more i think that her jabs has had something to do with this. I always believed that breast fed babies were supposed to be more healthy than formula and it was some kind of 'magical' liquid for them. Plus the fact she has been in a nursery setting since 6 months old- isnt that supposed to help babies and the research suggests that children who have been in nursery are better equipt once they start school. Me and her dad are 'professionals' and did work, but at the weekends when we were both off work we always went away on family trips. Im also a social worker (dont shoot me!lol) so i know all about child development, and we always talked to her properly to help her along with her talking. My son on the other hand, he is 2 years older. I never breast fed, he only started nursery when he was 3. He has always thrived, never had any health concerns, he was able to talk as soon as he was born, and is absolutely thriving at school. I did used to try and think logically and didnt want to believe it was the jabs, but now im more and more convinced that her jabs have impacted on her. And it makes me so fucking angry. So now im more inclined to not get the covid jab.

As for the 'celebs and 'influencers' encouraging us, most influencers would advertise dog shit if they were paid enough!

Also, my partner could be classed as a conspiracy theorist i suppose. He has taken me to see Richard D Hall a couple of times, and he is also interested in big foot, UFO's. I dont know if anyone else is interested in that, or even if that is classed as a conspiracy theory? There is a guy called 'Paul Sinclair', he talks a lot about the goings on in North Yorkshire. I find him really interesting.

Please no one shoot me for coming over here! as i said, i come waving a white flag!!

 

[Lisdiz]

Talking of adrenalchrome and Tony Blair, have you seen how bad he currently looks? Evil seeping out of him.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

you don’t need to answer this at ALL but are your grandkids vaccinated? Do you own kids agree with you on this stance? And did you vaccinate your own kids? Always genuinely interested in how families navigate opinions like this.
(Re covid I’m the only one in my family who’s hesitant to get the C19 vaccine, known as “dickhead” to some )



I’ve seen a lot of negative press around Pfizer as well as AZ in the media lately, if anything AZ is getting a pass because it’s been presented as EU jealousy

I have 7 grandchildren and three children. All vaccinated. I started looking into vaccinations around 8 years ago, I wasn't anti but was wary, got myself a pup and had him vaccinated he had an awful reaction and I never gave him anymore. I looked deeper and became an ex-vaxers due to the things I read and see. I had spoken to my daughter about my vaccine worries but she just rolled her eyes and told me not to be so daft.. When my she told me she was pregnant with the last one I bought her a vaccine book, it wasn't anti-vax but was about minimising the risks etc. I said please just read it and see what you think. She never did because I was a "dickhead" anti-vaxxer

I could not help but notice things about the children after each vaccination. then came the baby's last one (the one in each limb at the same time) After that she started to have silent seizures they were really scary they would last up to 10mins at a time. Also had purple lumps at three of the injections sites that didn't go for well over a year.

My daughter didn't believe it was the vaccines but during lockdown, she did her own research and now no more vaccines for them. my own son had the same seizures when he was the same age and the Drs said it was normal and I believed them.

I was really hurt one day when my daughter said she and her brother were talking about me and my CT etc and were laughing. I know it would not have been in any way nasty as they are not like that, but it hurt nonetheless. I reminded her of that the other day and she said how sorry she was that she didn't listen and just laughed and my strangeness. Now she is too scared to tell her brother that she now believes the same things I do. in case he thinks she is a dickhead
My other son has like me been a CT for years.

Sorry, if its come out jumbled but my daughter's dog died today and they and I are all broken-hearted listening to your normally non-crying daughter sobbing on the phone just about breaks your heart.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

just a bit of lighthearted relief.

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Reading the covid thread is now a breath of fresh air. People not only seeing through the BS but admitting it as well.

So many did see it but thought if they followed all the rules it would be over sooner. I have been cussed out many times by people believing the same things as I do but unlike me, they thought if they just did what they were told this would end faster.

Having been in abusive relationships most of my life right from when I was born. I know the more you follow the rules that make no sense, the more the rules change and the stranger the rules got. The only way to stop it was by stop doing all those things that didn't make any sense and telling the abusers that this BS is over. The tables would then turn.

This is what has to happen, we have to say NO MORE,! Shops and businesses have to be brave and just open, there are many already doing this if you know where to look many businesses are like speakeasies of their day.

Go hug your loved ones, throw your mask in the bin, stop believing this BS and get on with living again. They will then lose power over us and the world will change because the tables will turn.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Jesus Christ. It's not a scam. I can't even waste the energy on shite like this.

When we say scam, plandemic or it's fake. We are not saying COVID is a scam or fake but the reaction to it is a scam, We have explained this over and over. You choose to misread it again and again.

it's not a deadly "pandemic" it's a new virus that isn't even as deadly as many others we have seen off over the years. if it were we would not need to make up words for it. "long covid" "Covid arm/toes" covid covid covid, covid this, covid that.

Yes, covid is real but like the flu, it was killing those already ill, dying and frail elderly. To say it I'm accused of believing it's ok for these people to die, I'm selfish etc Truth is these people died anyway even though we had the restrictions. The reasons cases have now dropped so low is because this is how viruses are and what they do. Nothing to do with the vaccine, if there was no vaccine the cases would have dropped anyway. Go look into vaccines and you will see for every vaccine created the diseases was already on the way out.

Now it's young people dying and becoming ill after the jab, and those who fought valiantly for the ill and elderly are not saying a word about healthy people dying, that's because the media isn't telling you about it so you choose to believe these people are dying due to coincidence. You choose to believe the vaccine injury rates are low and the covid rates are high, you didn't actually look into any of it, you arrogantly believed it's right because the media and your peers all agree it's right.

I know that because I was once arrogantly right, how the fuck could I be wrong when every media platform told me I was right and all my friends and family were also right, didn't need to look into anything because I was so plainly right.

Maybe its best for those triggered to stay in their own lane, you and the others read here and get distressed and angry over what you read, something said the other day was clearly sarcasm but was taken as real because you and they want to believe we are all hard-hearted bastards and only you lot care about people or who have lost people.

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[emilylpl]

I have finally found my people

The only issue I have with this part of tattle is the title "conspiracy theroes" can we not be a truth page?

Sending love x

 

[DreamDolly]

What’s going to happen when I post about aliens??
How the fuck am I going to prove that?!!

 

[DreamDolly]

I'm not sure what I'm more annoyed about.
Hazza the Prince of lies moaning about misinformation - massive hypocrisy right there!
The fact he'll have picked a tidy cheque up for spewing one sided information.
That fact they're trying to making taking an experimental vaccine cool by calling this 'Vax Live'.
How it's lost on people that if this was as deadly as we've been sold then not one person would need convincing to take a vaccine even if it was experimental.

I'm willing to bet that if the plague dropped on our shores tomorrow that practically everyone on this thread, and even the most ardent anti vaxxer would jump to take an untested medication

Exactly!! A disease that’s SO “deadly” that you need to take a test to see if you’ve got it..
A disease SO “deadly” that 1 in 3 people don’t even know they have it..
A disease SO “deadly” that a PCR test has to go through MANY cycles to even prove you have it..
A disease SO “deadly” that the survival rate is around 98% for a healthy person..
A disease SO “deadly” that the news channels have used pictures of Indian people “sitting in the streets” that are over 3 years old...
A disease SO “deadly” that “Internet Influencers” are being PAID to push the vaccines!!
I think by now, many more people are finally seeing this whole pandemic for what it really is..
It’s not a pandemic - It’s a fucking Scamdemic...

More worrying news..

Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show

VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021.

childrenshealthdefense.org

 

[inkypinkyponky]

Someone mentioned before how odd it is that people aren't kicking off about the travel not being relaxed. Im also surprised more isnt being said. So you can go to 12 countries most of which won't allow travellers from the UK.
The amber countries that you need to isolate at home after visiting you also can't travel to on holiday as you cannot go to an amber country for leisure purposes.
So we are more restricted after having all (or very close to all) the vulnerable receive BOTH their vaccines than we were last summer when 0 people had any vaccines and infection rates and hospitalisation is much much lower than it was.
This makes no sense, they are just continuing to control our freedoms with little justification
You could travel to many parts of Europe last august without quarantine or testing, surely if you test before and after these countries that should be enough

 

[DreamDolly]

Totally agree regarding our treatment. Also I am not a fan of people putting disclaimers about themselves when they post on here. "I think what you say is nonsense BUT", "I'm not a ct BUT", "I don't belong here, you know my opinion of you all BUT" or apologising and feeling not welcomed before posting. Please don't apologise as we love people waking up, its gives us hope! and please don't feel the need to insult us/put disclaimers before you type. It just really gets to me. The disclaimer is like a sly dig. Anywayyys rant over I would love to see where we are in a years time.. whether they win or whether humanity rises. I think they have a very short window to utilise this plan and I believe it rests on the vaccine take up. Its still 60%-40% in Israel, I believe we will see similar in the UK. Why can't they just give it up and admit defeat I want my life back!

I definitely agree re the sly dig thing. That happened to me on another forum where I was attacked for being against children of 16 having the jab without parental consent. Apparently, my Crime was because I said that I didn’t want the jab, which obviously negates any other concerns I have about it being given to children!!
I’ve also found that once people know that you post on a conspiracy thread, nothing you say about anything is ever taken seriously, and that really does piss me off. Facebook is absolutely the worst in that respect, I have honestly never encountered such downright nastiness and bigotry, as I have on there.

This is something that I really cannot understand.
WHY do people believe that someone can die from Covid within a few days of “catching” it, but absolutely REFUSE to believe that someone can also die within a few days of having an experimental gene therapy that skipped a vital part of its own trials in order to be rushed to market under the smokescreen of an “emergency order”???
Why are some people determined to discredit all the deaths that have happened because of the vaccine, but believe everything the corrupt MSM and government tell them??
It appears that the Facebook Karen’s are now trying to discredit the VAERS vaccine injury reporting system, obviously they’ve given up on trying to discredit Reiner!!

 

[Purrrrrrr]

they could fucking arrest me and throw away the key, if I had someone in a care home I would never have stayed away, never.
id have taken them out. Even if it was illegal nothing would stop me

Do you remember that nurse who was arrested after trying to get her mum out. It was awful, and after when she was talking to her mum and carers through the window glass they shut the curtains on her. I felt like committing murder right then and I'm a pacifist and it wasn't even my family

 

[Yoghurtpots]

And if these reports are fake, it’s very concerning for all involved and influenced.

So its ok for people to be influenced by celebs, big billboards, social media, radio, newspapers, influencers, all who will never mention vaccine deaths or the 700000 adverse reactions, just a controlled story about clots but people aren't allowed to discuss their negative vaccine experiences? Yes its a shame that it has to be done unofficially but when it gets covered up and people don't even believe the governments own yellow card reporting system, what else can you do?! 35mil have been vaccinated in the UK, children are being vaccinated in parts of the world. Of course people will have adverse and fatal reactions! People die from peanuts! Thats why people must assess the risk vs benefit for taking this vaccine/prophylactic treatment. Children are not at risk, nor are young healthy people statistically, so any death or injury is a travesty in these people. Its up to people whether they choose to believe msm or an independent/yellow card reporting system. Either way people are entitled to look at both sides. Its a shame that the government are not being more transparent with vaccine injuries/fatalities so people would have accurate information and be able to make an informed decision.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Also, a word about “Fact Checkers”. I was actually unaware until recently, that these Fact Checkers are actually paid by pharmaceutical companies to ensure that any questions about the vaccines are labelled as false. Isn’t this a fucking conflict of interest though? I mean, how is this even legal? Thankfully, Reiner Fuellmich the German/American lawyer, and member of the Coronavirus Invesigation Committee, is on to this!!

To be honest Dolly I wonder how any of this madness is legal. Generally feel like I'm living in sci-fi version of The Truman Show these days. It's like your gut instinct tells you something is very wrong but the whole world is telling you it's perfectly normal. Surreal times.

 

[Sarahsphinx]

Really don't mind being labelled a granny killer, as I've never worn a mask or had the jab, so if I'm responsible for culling a few I apologise unreservedly. (Serious question ...how far does,my killing spree of breathing out extend ....I'm in Devon. Wiltshire? Scotland? All points North?) Presumably we are all now bio-weapons if we don't mask up and don't follow the agenda? I also don't follow the logic ... If you've had the holy grail jab aren't you then "safe" or are you doubting that it works? ps I'm a granny myself, and my main rage is that they are threatening to inflict this unknown, experimental, trial jab on schoolchildren. And don't get me started on the detrimental effects of masking/social distancing/obey orders mentality that is being inflicted on childhoods everywhere.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Don't know why but this one hit me hard, I see posts all day from people who have lost loved ones since the vaccine or describing their own injuries, maybe seeing his baby in the buggy at his funeral. I'm posting it here in case anyone else has been affected and wants to contact them ( in the write up below)

"Dr Stephen Wright died of sinus cerebral venous thrombosis and thrombotic thrombocytopenia on January 26th 2021 aged just 32, leaving behind his wife, Charlotte (my sister in law) and their 2 boys, Izaac 7 and Elijah 1.

Our family and some senior professionals (including thrombosis experts) believe that Stephen could not only be the first in the UK but maybe first in the world, to have died from the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

Stephen was an amazing, funny, smart, kind, warm and loving person. This is evident from the hundreds of people who knew him, even some of those only on virtual platforms.

Stephen was a Dr within the NHS, he worked in CAMHS helping children and families and was due to start at Great Ormond Street Hospital which he would work at alongside CAMHS. His new role was working as a Senior Clinical Psychologist in the Neurodisability Service helping young people with complex Autism. His loss is felt by all in his field.

When alive Stephen joined the organ donation list at least 6 times, and he was able to fulfil his wish giving double lungs to a man in his 30's and an exceptionally rare gift of a heart to a teenage boy.

His wonderful wife Charlotte wanted to share Stephens final journey in the hope of spreading awareness https://youtu.be/8MpEx43ESZo

This video has been shared in the hope it will reach families affected by a covid vaccination so that they can come together and form a support group. We do not want to create an anti-vac group but more of a “VAC-Aware” supportive community in the hope that together we can get some answers from the MHRA and help others to be aware of both the positives and negatives of vaccinations 'The Wright Way'

If you are reading this and painfully feel you can relate, please reach out at [email protected]"

 

[xyzcba]

This is well worth watching, 12,000 people have already seen it. Whistleblowers are so brave..



So, the video I just posted mentions that the vaccines make mRNA “coding” for CYP19A1
Here’s the definition of this..

Aromatase - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And here is what I found in relation to CDKN1B
Which was the other “coding” in the video

Frontiers | Landscape of CDKN1B Mutations in Luminal Breast Cancer and Other Hormone-Driven Human Tumors

The CDKN1B gene encodes for the p27Kip1 protein, firstly characterized as a cyclin dependent kinase (CDK)-inhibitor. Germline CDKN1B pathogenic variants have...

www.frontiersin.org

Apparently some Nordic countries have vitamin D added to their foods, and that is because the government’s know how essential it is.

I heard that some people are disputing that the AstraZeneca vaccine contains human dna.
Well, actually it does.
The vaccine is “produced” in genetically modified human embryonic kidneys, 293 cells and by recombinant dna “technology”
I think we all understand what the word “embryonic” means, but for those who are missing a few brain cells, it means “relating to an embryo” in other words, an under developed baby.
That’s another idiotic assumption clearly debunked

So this is why they're saying the Under 40's should have the Pfizer maybe.
Just had my first text yesterday for the vaccine, Pfizer as under 40. We are already struggling with fertility issues so I wasn't going to have the vaccine anyway, I'd decided very early on as it simply wasn't tested long enough to know the affects on fertility.

My husband has had several texts and letters telling him to book his vaccine. I noticed the language in all of them, nothing makes it seem voluntary so I can see how some people might just assume they have to have it.

Why are they wasting all this money and pushing it so hard, if it was a deathly disease that was going to wipe us all out they wouldn't need to harass you and put TV ads and billboards up.

Sure, old/ill/vulnerable - get it, and if it makes you feel safer, get it. I believe in body autonomy, your body your choice. But don't harass those that don't make the same choices as you.

 

[Freedomofspeech89]

Don't know why but this one hit me hard, I see posts all day from people who have lost loved ones since the vaccine or describing their own injuries, maybe seeing his baby in the buggy at his funeral. I'm posting it here in case anyone else has been affected and wants to contact them ( in the write up below)




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"Dr Stephen Wright died of sinus cerebral venous thrombosis and thrombotic thrombocytopenia on January 26th 2021 aged just 32, leaving behind his wife, Charlotte (my sister in law) and their 2 boys, Izaac 7 and Elijah 1.

Our family and some senior professionals (including thrombosis experts) believe that Stephen could not only be the first in the UK but maybe first in the world, to have died from the Astra Zeneca vaccine.

Stephen was an amazing, funny, smart, kind, warm and loving person. This is evident from the hundreds of people who knew him, even some of those only on virtual platforms.

Stephen was a Dr within the NHS, he worked in CAMHS helping children and families and was due to start at Great Ormond Street Hospital which he would work at alongside CAMHS. His new role was working as a Senior Clinical Psychologist in the Neurodisability Service helping young people with complex Autism. His loss is felt by all in his field.

When alive Stephen joined the organ donation list at least 6 times, and he was able to fulfil his wish giving double lungs to a man in his 30's and an exceptionally rare gift of a heart to a teenage boy.

His wonderful wife Charlotte wanted to share Stephens final journey in the hope of spreading awareness https://youtu.be/8MpEx43ESZo

This video has been shared in the hope it will reach families affected by a covid vaccination so that they can come together and form a support group. We do not want to create an anti-vac group but more of a “VAC-Aware” supportive community in the hope that together we can get some answers from the MHRA and help others to be aware of both the positives and negatives of vaccinations 'The Wright Way'

If you are reading this and painfully feel you can relate, please reach out at [email protected]"

That is so sad. It seems to be harming people who would have never been harmed from Covid as well. Given the risk/benefit I really don't know why this vaccine needs to be given to anyone who isn't vulnerable.

 

[Elizaaaaa]

Hi everyone,

I don't mean to speak out of turn and this is not an attempt to moderate at all (this isn't a "but" post, my social anxiety makes me second guess everything and how it may be interpreted, it's a miracle I say anything at all ever!)

So I've been catching up on this thread today, mostly in an attempt to distract myself from a lovely tummy bug I've had lots of thoughts and am possibly feeling brave enough to share them... I may very well delete this instead of sending but typing it out may be therapeutic in some way!

I think we can all agree that everything to do with Covid is an emotive topic, it has stirred up lots of different feelings for everyone. I think this means a lot of us are quite naturally reacting a little differently than we may do "normally". We may be more sensitive or defensive (just examples from my own experience!) and that can affect how we read and interpret things.

I think we can also agree that there are so many things here that we will never know the complete facts about, e.g. exact numbers of deaths that are solely due to Covid or the vaccinations. Partly because of reporting, but also because I'd imagine it's nigh on impossible to know these things for certain, there are so many different factors involved.

If we could maybe start from this point, it might make interactions on this thread and others a little less, erm, fractious? This is coming from someone who really struggles with conflict due to a difficult past, but I've struggled to read everything recently, because the tone has been very inflammatory

This could be a misunderstanding on my part, and I apologise if it is, but I've always viewed this thread as somewhere people can share something they have seen in a safe space and discuss it with people who are open-minded and willing to question things. That doesn't mean everyone will agree, but it should mean they can say the possible crazy/bizarre/ridiculous sounding thoughts that are in their mind without being shot down for it (which can happen in environments where people are very comfortable to accept a particular narrative). I personally am very happy to admit that some of my thoughts on different topics are a bit "out there", but that makes them interesting to discuss surely?

I know as humans we seek out answers and explanations, but sometimes we need to accept that these either don't exist or aren't accessible for us, and that the way we feel is just that. Evidence is great, but things aren't always black and white. The way we feel about things is valid regardless, it doesn't make it right or wrong necessarily.

There are things people have shared in this group that I had never even considered before, I love that! Regardless of how I feel about it, having the opportunity to think about it is something I welcome. I rarely respond to posts on threads, mostly because I don't know how valid my views are and I'm terrified if I'm asked to justify or explain them, "I don't know, it's just something I feel" isn't going to be an acceptable response. But I read posts and either have an instant view, or read into it more to see what I think, then move on. I don't feel the need to tell you all whether I agree or disagree, because ultimately, it's just my view you know, I don't expect it to change anything.

Being personal in responses or taking a response personally is where issues crop up, in my very humble opinion. In the same way I wouldn't tell a young child that they are bad/naughty etc., but would label the behaviour or action, would it be possible for us to state our feelings on the particular topic and not another poster's feelings or beliefs? Crazy idea I know! Just for example, if I was to share my thoughts on aliens, I'd like to know what other people think about aliens, not whether they think I'm right or wrong.

Totally understand that when it comes to sharing data or similar this is tricky. But all data is presented to give a particular narrative e.g. if I was a company (vaccine/cosmetic/car manufacturer/whatever) I would totally frame results as 84% of people loved my product, not 16% hated it. There's also no room in headline data for those who "think it's okay" or "aren't really bothered". And back to a much earlier point, it is so bloody hard to get real factual data that is completely and utterly impartial!!

Anywayyy, no idea what my point is other than a very childish "can't we all be nice to one another?!"

* Attempts to insert a GIF to lighten the mood and fails miserably *

 

[Elmhart]

Has anyone still got family/friends that think you've lost the plot when they realise your not wanting the vaccine, sceptical of all the lockdown, etc...I'm sick of being labelled as a conspiracy theorist and shot down all the time for my decisions and opinions.

I keep wondering what will be the point people see it the way I do. I know a lot of people that are taking the vaccine as a way to get back to normal. I guess when the normal doesn't come, it might be then. I can only describe it as total brainwashing.

My son starts school this year and I just feel total dread at how it will be

 

[Taffygirl111]

May as well let them drink/go clubbing and smoke! What difference does it make if they are 'mature' enough. Also seems like it would lead t sexual consent being lowered for perverted men to take advantage.

Gillick Competency has been round for years, it came about due to an under 16 wanting contraception I believe.

they tried to use it on my daughter for the HPV vaccine, and I told them, that in order to make that decision, she needed to go home and research it! They were relentless. She hasn’t had it done thankfully.

I’m a long term lurker or short term. But I love it here, even silently. I’ve found my home