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Where is the UK in this list?

Why are these protesters not going to China, the U.S, India, Russia, Japan, or Iran to make their point?

China produces 11.6 billion tons of co2 annually!

They insist on making our lives hell, when the UK is not even a top contributor to co2 emissions worldwide.

Therefore they can just F*** off with their disruptive tactics and blatant criminal activities.
The UK Produces around 341.5 Mt (Megatons) annually. Far less than the likes of Germany.
 
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I’d like to add that the oil industry here is the most heavily regulated and if we’re going to have oil and gas, and let’s face it currently we HAVE to, you want it from the UK sectors (or Norway) as far as environment, safety and human rights for workers/locals are concerned.
 
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When I was a child I remember news reports saying that oil and gas would run out early this century. Nobody was bothered about climate change then, just the fact that supplies would run out.

Being a naive child I thought that governments around the world would put money into developing a new fuel for the future. Its deeply disappointing that the only real alternative appears to be nuclear power which of course brings its own problems and could also badly damage the environment 😟
 
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I still think those Gatwick drones were something to do with climate activists testing the waters for disruption but the backlash and security breaches were so bad they never admitted to it
 
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The UK Produces around 341.5 Mt (Megatons) annually. Far less than the likes of Germany.
is that a per capita reading? More people and industry (well, not all, but some industries…) will raise that obviously. And with Germany shutting down the nuclear plants, other stuff gets burned, which was just a stupid move, if you ask me.
What really disturbed me is those near east countries burning oil like there’s truly no tomorrow for rit. Let’s be honest. Nobody needed that football stadium in the effing desert.
 
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is that a per capita reading? More people and industry (well, not all, but some industries…) will raise that obviously. And with Germany shutting down the nuclear plants, other stuff gets burned, which was just a stupid move, if you ask me.
What really disturbed me is those near east countries burning oil like there’s truly no tomorrow for rit. Let’s be honest. Nobody needed that football stadium in the effing desert.
This 100%. Let’s face it Qatar got the World Cup due to the liberal circulation of brown envelopes (allegedly) and I see almost zero legacy from this. Does a country that size need eight hi tech stadiums after the tournament? Even if football, for which they have zero history and previously little discernible interest, “takes off”.

I will however enjoy the spectacle of Gary Linekar, displaying his JSO supporting virtue, from a state of the art Doha press centre funded almost entirely from fossil fuel sales.
 
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This 100%. Let’s face it Qatar got the World Cup due to the liberal circulation of brown envelopes (allegedly) and I see almost zero legacy from this. Does a country that size need eight hi tech stadiums after the tournament? Even if football, for which they have zero history and previously little discernible interest, “takes off”.
I bet that stadium will go to ruins after the World cup is over, just like all those newly built stadiums disintegrated in Brazil after the WC there and many of the Olympic games sites in China are also in shambles. I'm rather sure read that there already are problems in Qatar with the stadium, but can't remember where (something about the extreme heat plus sandstorms affecting the materials). I don't doubt one second the brown envelopes, why ever would there be a football game there? Frankly, I hope it turns out to be rit, to prove a point. That's obviously terrible for the people actually playing but maybe it'll solve this problem in the longer run.
 
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is that a per capita reading? More people and industry (well, not all, but some industries…) will raise that obviously. And with Germany shutting down the nuclear plants, other stuff gets burned, which was just a stupid move, if you ask me.
What really disturbed me is those near east countries burning oil like there’s truly no tomorrow for rit. Let’s be honest. Nobody needed that football stadium in the effing desert.
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is that a per capita reading? More people and industry (well, not all, but some industries…) will raise that obviously. And with Germany shutting down the nuclear plants, other stuff gets burned, which was just a stupid move, if you ask me.
What really disturbed me is those near east countries burning oil like there’s truly no tomorrow for rit. Let’s be honest. Nobody needed that football stadium in the effing desert.
We produce 341.5 Megatons compared to China's 11.6 Gigatons and the U.S's 4.5 Gigatons annually.
 
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I bet that stadium will go to ruins after the World cup is over, just like all those newly built stadiums disintegrated in Brazil after the WC there and many of the Olympic games sites in China are also in shambles. I'm rather sure read that there already are problems in Qatar with the stadium, but can't remember where (something about the extreme heat plus sandstorms affecting the materials). I don't doubt one second the brown envelopes, why ever would there be a football game there? Frankly, I hope it turns out to be rit, to prove a point. That's obviously terrible for the people actually playing but maybe it'll solve this problem in the longer run.
Football sold it’s soul years ago. Surely I can’t be the only one who sees the irony of footballers running around in Pride armbands in front of their Middle Eastern paymasters? And making green initiative pledges whilst players and owners fly off in private jets. Don’t get me wrong I don’t resent their riches, if someone was to offer me £500k per week to kick a ball around I guarantee I will take it, just don’t take fans for utter fools. A cautionary tale for football lies in the Snooker boom of the 1980’s when even mildly successful players became household names. When it went pop it went pop big time.

When a club is sold to the Saudi’s, and the fans celebrate the prospect of players earning hundreds of thousands of pounds per week in a city most of them probably didn’t know even existed until last year, then it reaches a point where the only place left to go is Colombian Drug Lords or Vladimir Putin. And for what? A shiny metal object they will only be allowed to view (a copy of) from behind glass and rope.

Football is like Hollywood. It’s not a good and moral place and is in no position to lecture anyone. The ever woke Eddie Izzard with Kevin Spacey before the ….. unfortunate allegations/revelationo.



Lest we forget.
 
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We produce 341.5 Megatons compared to China's 11.6 Gigatons and the U.S's 4.5 Gigatons annually.

I was referring to your earlier post of:
"The UK Produces around 341.5 Mt (Megatons) annually. Far less than the likes of Germany."

Well, yes, Germany has more than the UK, but without context this reads a bit odd when there are much bigger fish to fry out there, like the rightfully pointed-out Emirates, China, etc. Germany has ~83 million inhabitants, the UK around 67. Per capita though, the UK is still lower than Germany, which is where things get more interesting, as obviously both are highly developed western countries, so the standard of living and all that is mostly equal.
Germany has a tit ton of car traffic, which will greatly contribute here, not only because people love to drive, but also because basically everyone in mainland Europe needs to drive through it. And then don't get me started on how we get electricity here! From what I get from Statista, the UK has about 20% from nuclear plants, and Germany has ~4%, which will also add loads to the picture. But yeah, feels like peanuts against China and all that, and there the per capita is even higher than in UK and Germany. Just checked out Oman, it's 16.9 against UK's 4.66.... :oops: and the Emirates is even higher at 20.7! That surely ought to be discussed somewhere? While I think it's great if people here question how they use resources and try to do things more sustainably, there are factors out there that you simply cannot compete against by using less electricity at your home.
 
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All the pro Qatar guff on the telly just now is fooling nobody.
Yep. I'm sure the Beeb and ITV paid millions for the rights to the tournament. I don't think they will let some unfortunate truths get in the way of ratings.

Should we have a game of Beeb Bingo.

Uniting the nation.
Just what we need in difficult times (or variations thereof)
Hosts have been great.
Great strides in human rights.
Triumph of diversity (if a multiracial team wins)
Great, but ... (If a less multiracial team does, see Lionesses after 5-0 win)
Obviously concerned but football is a unifying force (too much Star Wars methinks)
 
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As Neil is an economic youtuber it’s nice to see him give a breakdown of their financing.

 
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'If we don't hear from the Government by the 4th November, we will escalate or legal protests.'

Blocking roads and spraying buildings with paint is legal?

They are so deluded, that they believe their own BS.

Good God, who is the Greta Thunberg clone (butting in on the sensible black woman's discussion) about a third of the way through? Just as utterly clueless as her idol.

The general public IS NOT moving onto the side of the protesters. If anything, the situation risks becoming more violent, as people become increasingly fed up with being disrupted.
 
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Reported today that the latest Just Stop Oil protest on the M25 has caused two lorries to crash.

Enough of this BS. Time for the fed up motorists caught up in this crap to take direct action against those involved. I don't generally agree with violence, unless absolutely backed into a corner - which these protesters are now doing to the public.

I think it now the only thing that will get though to these protesters and curtail their actions. The wrath of the fed up public.

There would he a huge round of applause and support nationally, if they did.
 
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I work near one of the junctions they have closed, it is absolute choas. It's wet, everyone is cross and late and it will and has caused accidents. I took me over an hour to get to work, which should take 30 mins max.

Surrey Police are getting ripped apart on facebook, everyone is saying leave them be and let the motorways run as normal. They are blaming highways saying they have told them to close them for 'safety'. Sorry but no, they got up there when it was open, leave them be and let us carry on. Things are tit enough right now without this on peoples plates as well.
 
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These morons should be classed as a terrorist organisation! And they need hefty jail time
I now of the mindset they need a public kicking - quite literally.

The Police won't act effectively against them, so the public should do their job. I'm sick and tired of the cat footing that occurs around these idiot protesters.

Taking the law into your own hands should not be a crime if the Police won't act, or don't bother to turn up.

My mindset is hardening by the day. The reason is due to our useless leaders, Police and public services failing to sort things out in society.
 
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I work near one of the junctions they have closed, it is absolute choas. It's wet, everyone is cross and late and it will and has caused accidents. I took me over an hour to get to work, which should take 30 mins max.

Surrey Police are getting ripped apart on facebook, everyone is saying leave them be and let the motorways run as normal. They are blaming highways saying they have told them to close them for 'safety'. Sorry but no, they got up there when it was open, leave them be and let us carry on. Things are tit enough right now without this on peoples plates as well.
Surrey Police like most other 'forces' nowadays are effing useless.

They'll happily stop you in the street to ask what you're doing at 10pm at night, yet fail to take action against those that cause problems like the lunatic protesters.

If the Police don't step and do what they are paid to do, uphold law and order -as far as I'm concerned - they have zero grounds for complaint when the public step in to do what they should be doing to begin with.

The Assistant Met Commissioner, Mark Rowley, is another overpaid hole, paid at our expense. His attitude towards these protesters highlights what is wrong with the Police.
 
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