@Clara Burnett I have always respected and valued your input, however I must provide a counter argument to the suggestion the Pethericks have anything to do with the rudey nudey shots of SJ.
I am absolutely no fan of the Pethericks and their extended relations and friends ( and rarely like or react to any comments regarding them, such is my distaste of the whole family).
Re these photos. SJ disowned these photos early in her vlogging when MPK was still flavour of the month. I think to slander anyone with such an activity is not in the spirit of this group IMHO. If discussions on these disgusting photos continue can we not unfairly slander anyone on their origin.
Footnote: This does not exclude me from judgey judgey comments re the lesbian "art" photographers who are just lurchy. I'm sorry I've been around enough pedatory lesbians to recognise unsavoury behaviour