Caroline Flack

[Be More Pacific]

I would have to say that's probably insecurity from previously being cheated on by a man she was in a 3 year relationship with and a man who apparently loved her so much he proposed to her. I was cheated on and it took my ages to fix the insecurities it left me with. I'm just lucky my now boyfriend was able to put up with my paranoid ways because I was beyond paranoid.

I admit I've snooped before (not a phone, e-mails and letters) when I was in my twenties. I've never caught a boyfriend out cheating although I suspected it. I am insecure in other ways though.

What I did learn from it was that you will always find something that will hurt you. And it is probably totally innocent and can be explained away but, if you're looking with that mindset, you will read something into anything.

I would NEVER do it now and haven't for many, many years. It's sad and worrying that CF still felt the need to despite being a 40 year old woman.

Drugs and alcohol can also make you paranoid.

 

[heatmagazine]

It was the way he said "thank you for letting me say goodbye"

It makes you wonder if it was planned and she had the people closest to her to say goodbye without them actually knowing

They do say, that once a person chooses to end their life (she obviously did as she hung herself - that is no cry for help it usually the final act) that they are met with a peace they’ve never had before which carries on until they meet with their plan. You rarely hear of people saying they have seen the person prior suicide that they looked in a bad place or unwell... it’s usually, I saw them yesterday and they seemed so fine and normal! Which they do, they’ve made their decision and they have nothing to worry about anymore because it’s over. So more than likely you are right, a bit of strange location mind a grave yard. Lol. Suicide is a very sad and confusing state of affairs.

 

[nics2018]

^ I really hope this is a turning point for your nephew. It's disgusting that men are made to feel height is somehow a factor in this!

 

[Sampayne]

She came over as being rather unpleasant and I got the impression that she would revell in others' misfortune, a school bully type of woman. As with a lot of bullies when the tables were turned she lost it completely. She said a few years ago after winning Strictly that she became very depressed and that her friends found her very draining, yes people can be draining and she sounds pretty self obsessed she really should have seen a professional counsellor/therapist its not as if she couldn't afford it. I am sorry she felt so wretched that she hung herself but I refuse to accept that was a martyr.

I had met her a few times and she was a really down to earth lady shy and really low self esteem

 

[minimazoo]

He's said don't worry about him and he has the love of his girlfriend and close friends around him.

I think he's feeling a lot of guilt and rightly so. He more or less admits he put out that stuff about the NDA as he wanted to hurt her like she had hurt him and I don't think he means hurt in the physical sense but emotionally.

His blog was rambling..one minute blaming Journalists, the next the press, her management, her PR, the public then back to blaming himself.

He will feel guilty, her current boyfriend also feels terribly guilty. If people are abusive they often show a really wonderful side when you first get together or flip from one side to the other and people love that nice person, cling onto it. If abuse occurred it doesn't mean you stop loving that person but you could be angry too at the pain they've caused you.

The incident where Brady called the ambulance and she went to the papers about him is something he may still feel very aggrieved about. he was called vindictive in the national press but was actually concerned that she would kill her self. Instead of thanks she slurred his character and made him out to be an idiot who wasted emergency services time. She in effect made him out to be the abuser. How hurtful would that be when you were trying to save someone you loved? I also think this is one thing that her 'friends' are blatantly ignoring when they blame the press, or him - she used it to attack others. Maybe he wants to be heard even if some might see it as an inappropriate time... because in one sense, her suicide actually confirms he wasn't vindictive.

 

[Flowerpotgirl]

You can like and feel badly about Caroline, without trying to change the facts. You can feel bad she hung herself, and yet understand that the people closest to her failed her. CPS doesn’t talk to her everyday and isn’t close friends with her. They are not meant to know exactly what her situation is.
their job is to prosecute and event that happened, and was called in as an attack on Andrew BY ANDREW.

 

[GoLando]

Why has Laura Whitmore liked that? She was first on the radio with a script that was pointing blame.

Because they never believe the criticism could include them. I bet a ton of influencers who've been using her name for their own purposes this week also like it.

 

[GrunkaLunka]

Something else that is bothering me about that head wound picture.

The article states "It shows barely a mark on Lewis Burton’s head — despite being taken straight after the domestic row which led to the tragic TV host’s assault charge."

If that picture was taken straight after the row, why doesn't he have any blood under his nails? Unless he somehow did not get any blood on his hands, how has he managed to get his nails so clean? And could he have washed his hair so quickly? His hair and scalp look remarkably blood free considering the police said he was covered in it.
It doesn't even matter, but why try to deceive people like this?

 

[Spammingyourhighway]

She came over as being rather unpleasant and I got the impression that she would revell in others' misfortune, a school bully type of woman. As with a lot of bullies when the tables were turned she lost it completely. She said a few years ago after winning Strictly that she became very depressed and that her friends found her very draining, yes people can be draining and she sounds pretty self obsessed she really should have seen a professional counsellor/therapist its not as if she couldn't afford it. I am sorry she felt so wretched that she hung herself but I refuse to accept that was a martyr.

She didn’t come across like that at all to me

 

[Greatbutton]

View attachment 85973
We will never know how CF was struggling and with what. She was abusing drugs and drink which was clearly exasperating whatever was going on inside her. Seems like she had no idea the effects of recreational drugs and possibly didn't think she had a problem and therefore didn't reach for rehab.

Only she and LB knows the truth of that night and I wouldn't take his word for it alone. So his injury is on the very top of his head interesting to know how it happened like that

What is that post? Its unreadable.

 

[GrunkaLunka]

Now’s not the time to have the moral high ground

I just see Dirty Joan saying that there is no excuse for violence. Not sure how that is the moral high ground, but if that's what you want to call it and then now is EXACTLY the time for moral high ground. There is a man with a head wound, potentially a victim and it starts to smell like victim blaming when people say that he has upset CF by texting other women.

 

[Spammingyourhighway]

Keith lemon can talk about being kind when he bullied fearne cotton night after night on celebrity juice

 

[Charmed40]

I know, its not something you just get over its almost a life long management of an illness. We are all here if you ever need someone to talk to. Despite people thinking we are all evil trolls, we are actually a very caring and supportive group. My inbox always open.



She really makes me sick. She is using this to promote herself and her non existent music career. She has taken it upon herself without asking or checking with CF family, and decided to be their spokesperson. She really needs to take a hard look at herself and motives and how this will impact Carrie's family and friends.

How lovely, you might regret you said it! Thank you so much, it's very appreciated xxx

 

[AnnieWood]

I lost my best friend to suicide. He threw himself off a bridge 6 years ago. Before his body was found and we knew what had happened he was a missing person for 3 weeks. I was 19 and he was 23. I had to go to work each day, I asked my boss for a day off and I was refused it. The only time I got off was the day of the funeral. I was also a wreck and struggled through every single day, it’s horrific.
Sometimes you need time off, sometimes you can manage and keeping distracted is easier. We’re all different in how we cope.

So sorry for your loss. My dad died and I only had 2 days off. I thought it was better being at work and having a distraction. Unfortunately life goes on and there are no rules for grieving... we all do it differently.

 

[bsh3113]

I just struggle to see a huge difference between sharing a text that says ‘feeling sad’ and telling a long very detailed story on Twitter about how she stank after a festival 10 years ago and had to open the car window. It’s this constant we had a ball she was great fun and we laughed 24 hours a day picture that’s being painted because she wants to control the narrative.

 

[GrunkaLunka]

I think threatening suicide regularly would come under coercive control (maybe that's where the view that she was manipulative towards LB came from) but domestic abuse and coercive control go hand in hand really.

EDIT - ok, maybe not reading through this list here although I'm sure that's not exhaustive.

Coercive control - Women’s Aid

What is coercive control? Domestic abuse isn’t always physical. Coercive control is an act or a pattern of acts of assault, threats, humiliation and intimidation or other abuse that is used to harm, punish, or frighten their victim. Coercive and controlling behaviour is at the heart of domestic...

www.womensaid.org.uk

It is definitely an abusive trait to threaten suicide (before I upset anyone, I am aware that suicide threats are not always abusive).
Having a bit of a background in dv, her behaviour is what I would usually describe as a classic abuser. She threatens self harm/suicide, minimises the abuse, blames stress, declares love after an incident, hurts you, smashes things up, shouts, swears, goes through your phone. Obviously I am not saying that she WAS an abuser, but I'm saying that her behaviour is like a long line of ticks on the checklist.

 

[Persephonehasreturned]

Ultimately, I think Caroline Flack’s death and behaviour prior to it, really highlights how difficult it is to deal with severe mental health issues. Be them your own or someone else’s.

It’s all very sad, for her, her family, her current boyfriend and former one.

 

[Dirty Joan]

Lewis can’t see it now but he will realise in time that he was in an extremely volatile and toxic relationship.

 

[Eat your greens]

My mobile dropped on my foot the other day, it was really painful!

Yes and the classic “dropping your phone on your face when lying down” manoeuvre, bloody hurts.

 

[FridaK]

I just struggle to see a huge difference between sharing a text that says ‘feeling sad’ and telling a long very detailed story on Twitter about how she stank after a festival 10 years ago and had to open the car window. It’s this constant we had a ball she was great fun and we laughed 24 hours a day picture that’s being painted because she wants to control the narrative.

I think the difference is that Dawn is sharing funny anecdotes about a friend who has passed away. She isn’t sharing private messages from Caroline that she sent during what we now know was a very troubling time for her. It’s not wrong to speak about Caroline under the right circumstances for the right reasons. It is wrong to violate the privacy of someone who was evidently suicidal