Caroline Flack

[gypsymoth]

i think there was already an injunction in place, hence no contact allowed with boyfriend. bail conditions but possibly an injunction there also?

 

[Team JCM]

She was clearly very ill long before she was charged with a crime. She probably needed hospitalisation and intense treatment. It does make me cross as though people talking about mental health is great, there’s absolutely no understanding of serious mental health problems. Her suicide was probably (as I didn’t see her state of mind) far from a choice. I’ve seen a close relative suffer from bipolar disorder and he doesn’t remember his psychotic or very low periods at all, it wasn’t ‘him’ choosing to do anything it was his very ill mind. No amount of ‘be kind’ or talking would have helped him at that point. At that point they just need hospitalisation to be safe, if only someone would have enforced this. So so sad.

Agree - terribly sad.

 

[EmilyChambers]

Caroline Flack biography to be published by Ad Lib

A biography of Caroline Flack by Emily Herbert will be released by John Blake’s new firm Ad Lib Publishing in April, with a share of the profits donated to cyber bullying charities.

www.thebookseller.com

An author already cashing in on Caroline’s death and trying to justify it by donating a ‘share’ of the profits to a cyber bullying charity.

She released her biography already. Storm in a C cup. People will no doubt buy this but only to get the gossip on what happened that night, not because they are I terested or wanting to understand her.

Oh, that's quite a bit longer than just popping to the shops.

Not that her friend is to blame in any way AT ALL.

I was wondering. A pop to the shops isn't usually enough time for an overdose so I wondered if she'd hung herself.

But then reports are saying the was pronounced dead at the scene after paramedics confirmed she was unresponsive so if she was alone for 5 hours, I'm guessing it was overdose.

 

[AnnieWood]

I started doing yoga, meditation and then discovered I have an auto immune condition which I now believe the inflammation that comes with it was responsible for my mental health issues. I don’t even believe in drug therapy for most depression/anxiety related issues now. They do more harm than good. But thank you so much for your message

I started doing the same yoga and meditation. Meditation is hard for me. I actually start to panic and think bad thoughts. So weird. My doctors says I am healthy (blood tests etc) How do you know you have an auto immune condition. My whole body feels inflamed and my legs ache and hurt all the time. Plus started getting pelvic pain. I think mentally yoga was helping but my body has never hurt so much and I use to run 10km a day with no problems. Do you have any body pain doing yoga?

 

[Itsmethatlikesamoan]

She wasnt even fired from her job! She was going back for the next series. But you dont just away with attacking someone ! The paramedics said blood was everywhere. And she was in his phone spying. She may have been sweet, but really unhinged possibly, too. Its sad, and she probably knew she would go to jail as she had attacked him.

Did you actually read my post ? did I say she was fired from her job ?.... did I say she should get away with what I called a serious offence happened that night ? ... and How do you know she was going back for the next series ... had she been found guilty when the trial came to court do you think she just would have been allowed to return ?....
I didn’t once condone what she did ... but you have to be respectful at the end of the day the only two people who know what really happened were her and her boyfriend and whatever it was and whatever went down it’s still extremely sad that she felt compelled to end her life because of it.

 

[Opalfruit8]

I'm sure stuff will come out but its pretty grim to malign the deceased.

I’m not maligning I’m asking a genuine question that I don’t know the answer to

 

[gypsymoth]

It is really annoying me what the press are writing about this case. There would have been no jury and there’s absolutely no way she was going to prison (I also work in criminal law). And if she was told either of those things maybe she had awful representation! It’s so so sad.

How do you know....was there drugs involved? a weapon? alcohol? do we know?

 

[Flowerpotgirl]

https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/flacks-law

this is a link to someone who isnt Steph trying to do good.

 

[tskiry56]

Just a couple of things.

No one under the age of 18 charged with assault by beating is granted anonymity.

She would have had a fair trial. There is no jury involved at a magistrate's court, only three magistrates who preside. And they most probably would never even have heard of Caroline Flack (I can say this pretty confidently as my partner is a magistrate, chair in training, and he is one of the youngest in his area at the age of 48) although obviously they would be aware of the press attention. They can only find on the evidence presented in court and they also have a qualified legal adviser there (who basically runs the court) to ensure they are doing everything by the book as far as sentencing. I have been to observe!

My partner absolutely thinks she should have pled guilty at the first opportunity.

I meant by being famous the world knows your business etc...I dont think anyone knows what my ex partner did to me apart from the court and those involved.
It wasnt plastered in newspapers etc and he probably lied to his friends. It wasnt all over social media. So in a way his not known for what he did unlike caroline

 

[Suzesnooze]

Ruth yes but Ashley was close to Caroline they used to go on girls holidays together


She was engaged to someone at some point because in one of the series of love island she has a ring on her finger and all the girls congratulate her

Think the only boyfriend she ever got engaged to was Andrew Brady. They went on an 'engagement moon'!

 

[Youtubegossip]

Ruth yes but Ashley was close to Caroline they used to go on girls holidays together


She was engaged to someone at some point because in one of the series of love island she has a ring on her finger and all the girls congratulate her

She was engaged to Andrew Brady

 

[Suzesnooze]

It seems like she has a lot of friends that are going to miss her. Such a shame

She had loads of celebrity friends and always seemed happy and having a good laugh.

 

[Astonishing]

Imagine needing the smas and getting to a auto and then not being placed on hold but it hanging up....

 

[MagicCat]

No ‘tis still on her grid. 30k views.
Absolutely cringeworthy.
Hanger on.

Whose insta is this about?

 

[Londongirl5382]

My sadness has turned to anger - she wasn’t convicted and we will never know what the outcome would have been - since when should anyone (guilty or not) face the trial of social media? I’ve read posts from her friends who’ve said the press slashed her tyres to get a reaction. We need to stop dealing in opinion and start dealing in facts - a very troubled woman NEEDED help and she didn’t get it. She was hounded publicly, online, in papers and in person. IF she did assault her partner she would have had to face the consequences according to our justice system - sadly we all know it wouldn’t have been that simple she was on public trail and I task anyone to not break under that enormous amount of pressure.

Those with theories about her being a narcissist and attention seeker etc. You’re part of the problem not the solution. This thread makes me deeply sad.

She wouldn't have been the first female or the last female to be involved in a situation like this. It happens behind closed doors across the country daily. However, these never get press coverage. This one did, however the whole story was not published, but enough bits for people to make assumptions, some will be correct, some incorrect. People did not let it drop. She was clearly struggling with her mental health too. The matter would be old news pretty soon.
It is tragic that she has taken her life as she could not see any other way.

 

[Londongirl5382]

On the evening of Dec 11 last year, Caroline Flack, the popular TV presenter, and her boyfriend, Lewis Burton, a former tennis professional, enjoyed a romantic dinner together at the Soho restaurant, Bob Bob Ricard.

To the other diners present the couple appeared happy, carefree and engrossed in one another's company.

Despite Flack's chequered relationship history, and the fact the couple had only been together since July, friends of the 40-year-old were becoming increasingly confident that she had finally found the man she would marry.

Professionally, things were also in the ascendancy, with Love Island - the reality show she hosted - enjoying runaway success and about to launch its first winter season.

But within a few short hours Flack’s life had unravelled and a chain of events began that would ultimately culminate in her tragic suicide.


In the early hours of the morning, while Burton was asleep, Flack began examining his mobile phone, becoming enraged when she discovered text messages that he had received from another woman.

The exchanges - which involved a woman in her 60s - were entirely innocent, but Flack, who had battled depression and anxiety issues, exploded, convinced Burton was cheating on her.

Launching herself at her still sleeping boyfriend, she hit him over the head with a table lamp and threw his mobile phone at him.

After flipping over a table, Flack also cut herself on a glass, receiving a deep wound to her arm.

Burton, who is 6ft 3in tall, was unable to restrain his 5ft 3in girlfriend or calm her down, and at 5.25am made a 999 call asking for the police.

He told the call handler: "She tried to kill me, mate. She's going mad, breaking stuff. She almost cracked my head open."

The call handler noted that in the background, Flack could be heard screaming: "You ruined my life."

In a sign of just how seriously the report was taken, the first police officer arrived at the flat in the Barnsbury area of Islington, within eight minutes.

The door of the ground floor flat was answered by Flack and Burton, pictured below in a previous Instagram post.

According to the officer, both were covered in blood.


In his notes the officer likened the scene to "something out of a horror movie".

Flack was still extremely irate and had to be restrained by officers, who were fitted with body worn cameras recording the whole interaction.

Flack was arrested on suspicion of assault and paramedics were also called to the scene.

After assessing both of them, it was decided Flack ought to be taken to hospital for treatment to her wound.

While under caution she allegedly admitted the attack and told officers that she would "kill herself".

The following day, on Friday Dec 13, after consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service, Flack was charged with assault by beating and summoned to appear before Highbury Magistrates’ Court on the day before Christmas Eve.

She was released on bail with the condition that she was not to contact Mr Burton.

Professionally, the incident could not have come at a worse time, with Flack preparing to fly out to South Africa for the launch of the new series of Love Island which was starting on Jan 8.

Executives from ITV held a series of meetings over the weekend and on Monday Dec 16, Flack agreed to stand down as host of the programme she loved.

According to friends she was devastated at losing the £600,000-a-year role, but was also deeply hurt by what she perceived as a lack of support from the television company to which she had been so loyal.

In the fortnight before her appearance in court, Flack and Burton remained in a relationship – even though they were not supposed to contact one another – and he made it clear to the police and Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) that he did not wish to press charges.

But with prosecutors under constant pressure to demonstrate how seriously they take allegations of domestic violence, they refused to drop the case.

On Dec 23, a tearful Flack appeared at Highbury Magistrates' Court to face one charge of assault by beating, a relatively low-level offence that carries a maximum six-month prison sentence.

Burton attended the short hearing to offer his support, and Flack's lawyer told the court: "He does not support this prosecution, has never supported this prosecution and has strong feelings about the hearing this morning. He was never a victim, as it were, he was a witness.”

The lawyer also pleaded with the District Judge to grant Flack unconditional bail so that she could see Mr Burton, telling him: "They are still in a relationship. It’s Christmas, its New Year, Miss Flack has suffered enough from this prosecution and she needs people around her."

The application was not granted and Flack was ordered to undergo a risk assessment before the next court hearing set for March 4.

Flack's Islington flat was put on the market and she moved into a London hotel, telling friends she no longer felt safe at home.

Given her history of anxiety and depression, those closest to her were concerned as to whether she would be able to cope with such a fall from grace.
The trial, and her biggest fear

On Christmas Day she volunteered at a charity in east London that was putting on a lunch for socially isolated people.

While understandably worried about the legal case, she was more anxious about watching the new series of Love Island, which was going ahead without her and was now being hosted by her friend Laura Whitmore.

At one point she considered checking in to a £15,000 a week retreat in Thailand in order to escape the pressure, but instead, with New Year looming she jetted to Los Angeles.

According to friends she spent her time in the US hiking, visiting the gym and getting her life back on track.

Despite still being banned from contacting Burton, he posted messages on social media, pledging his love and support.

She returned to London at the end of January and moved into a new flat in a converted school in Stoke Newington, east London.

Just last week she was pictured laughing with a friend at a local climbing wall near her home. She also visited Barcelona with a friend, pictured above, where she was said to be in good spirits.

Friends, family and members of her loyal management team reassured her that she would overcome whatever lay ahead and they were increasingly confident that the CPS would not press ahead with the case.

But on Valentine's Day came the news she had been dreading, that despite Mr Burton's refusal to cooperate with the case, the CPS were going ahead with the trial.

The hearing was listed to take place on March 4, but Flack was terrified about the prospect of standing trial.

According to sources, her biggest fear was that the body worn camera footage from the officer who arrested her would be broadcast, showing her at her worst.

Concerned for her welfare, one of her closest friends, Lou Teasdale, a celebrity hair stylist pictured with Flack above, offered to stay with her for a few days.

On Friday at 10.30pm paramedics were called to the flat amid concern over Flack's welfare.

But following an assessment by crews it was decided there was no need to admit her to hospital.

The following morning, assured that there was nothing more to worry about, Miss Teasdale was persuaded to leave the flat and pop to the shops.

When she returned a short time later she was unable to get back into the flat and called friends who managed to gain entry.

They found her unresponsive and after calling paramedics Flack was pronounced dead at the scene.

This is nothing different that what is already out there.

 

[Be More Pacific]

It cropped up on the first thread that it was up for sale with photos etc, but I’m surprised she had moved before it sold.

Thank you - yes, I knew it had been for sale and that it had been taken off the market - I just assumed she'd decided to stay there

 

[TheNosyCow]

She’s deleted that pretty sharpish!! Bet he told her to! I bloody would of ! Xxx

who was it?

 

[Casperron]

(#mentoo?)

 

[Clemmieinwonderlust]

Regarding love island and cancelled 2 days as respect. Does this mean that they will have to stay on the island a few extra day’s and have they been informed why I wonder?