Bryony Farmer #2 A baby is for life, not just before/after Christmas

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Imagine her trying to cope with him when he’s a teenager or something. Even when he’s a chatty 4 year old etc. I actually think part of her thinks he’ll be a baby forever
 
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Yeah I found those forum posts this time last year and tried to give her the benefit of the doubt (she was a teenager, quite a vulnerable one) - but the empty way she speaks to Oryn, leaving him alone for me-time reminded me. I find it so sinister.

I don’t think she’s evil or even malicious, but I think she has a very effed up psychology and has always seen children as little dolls to play with. She spent all her teenage years buying accessories including nappies and prams, convincing people to let her act out the fantasy (her early videos include other people’s children she was babysitting, discussing personal details like their teething and nappies etc), she eventually bought the flat with the primary goal of fostering. She was not an experienced childcare professional, and had no real relationship to any given child, but she ‘needed’ a two bed flat to set up a ‘kids room’. She eventually did foster and we saw more exploitation of other people’s children. She renamed them as if they were her own, showed as much as she was allowed to online, self published a children’s book about a foster carer who the child called ‘mummy’, spoke about how she wished she could breastfeed her foster babies. This is a short version of events but they’re all very well documented. Then Oryn is conceived and here we are.

Aside from her objectification of him my main concern is her ability to lie to the camera and construct fictional narratives. For instance, she posted a happy video about his gender reveal during the pregnancy. A few months later we find out she had planned to harm him after his birth that night, yet still edited the footage and posted it as a fun, normal mummy vlog.
 
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I really think a lot of the reason behind her conceiving her own biological child was because she wanted to post him online. I always got the impression that she hated the restrictions from fostering and wanted to share as much as possible, and with her own child she decided she can do what she wants. She also closed her business down and now wants to make her main income from being a 'mumfluencer.' I also think she'll get pregnant again very soon even though it would be such a bad idea, because pregnancy content and all the gender reveal, name reveal stuff etc gets the most views.
 
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I hope O won't get hurt when he's in the age range she refused to care for. I would say she should've stuck to fostering only, but even the children in the age range she ordered, I mean, specified, were passed off to her mother or a nursery or she intensely complained about them. Didn't she have rage issues with them too? I think that's why I stopped watching.

Sunniva, that's an excellent summary that SS would benefit from being aware of. I worry for Os wellbeing and safety. 19 hours alone in a cot everyday, the rest of the time on the floor under a drawer or beside a glass grizzling etc 😰
 
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I hope O won't get hurt when he's in the age range she refused to care for. I would say she should've stuck to fostering only, but even the children in the age range she ordered, I mean, specified, were passed off to her mother or a nursery or she intensely complained about them. Didn't she have rage issues with them too? I think that's why I stopped watching.

Sunniva, that's an excellent summary that SS would benefit from being aware of. I worry for Os wellbeing and safety. 19 hours alone in a cot everyday, the rest of the time on the floor under a drawer or beside a glass grizzling etc 😰
I do think SS would be paying much closer attention to her if the circumstances were the same (uneducated unemployed single mother with chronic health issues and prenatal mental illness who had planned to kill her newborn, and is now neglecting his emotional and social needs and he is failing to gain weight appropriately) but if she was a lower social class and she had less money, a strong regional accent, living in a run down flat in a less nice area etc. she wouldn’t be getting off so lightly. I think it is far easier to talk the talk when you are doing it in an RP accent in your nice flat your parent’s bought you.
 
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I do think SS would be paying much closer attention to her if the circumstances were the same (uneducated unemployed single mother with chronic health issues and prenatal mental illness who had planned to kill her newborn, and is now neglecting his emotional and social needs and he is failing to gain weight appropriately) but if she was a lower social class and she had less money, a strong regional accent, living in a run down flat in a less nice area etc. she wouldn’t be getting off so lightly. I think it is far easier to talk the talk when you are doing it in an RP accent in your nice flat your parent’s bought you.
It's just awful, isn't it.

I think she'll try to portray being an increasingly good mother as she reads here, but I don't believe she's capable of genuine change. Her skewed perception of reality and ideas of child development etc are so far off, she's deceptive, arrogant and selfish through and through.
 
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Always awkward to articulate, particularly in the midst of (entirely justified) judgment and criticism, so I preface this by saying that one of my children who I love desperately is severely autistic, but Bryony is herself very plainly autistic and further, pretty much every single one of the issues picked up on in this thread is explainable in that context alone (though I do think Munchausen’s is a likely factor too).
 
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Many Autistic women don't parent anything like her. Autistic mothers are often very aware and tuned in to their baby's needs. Perhaps her educational and social circumstances meant she didn't pick up the empathy and awareness developed as a survival technique from masking in public, but I'd expect it by secondary age. If she was truly hyperfocused on babies and parenting books, I don't think she'd be ignoring his needs and showing it on camera, particularly as she likes to portray being an expert.
 
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Many Autistic women don't parent anything like her. Autistic mothers are often very aware and tuned in to their baby's needs. Perhaps her educational and social circumstances meant she didn't pick up the empathy and awareness developed as a survival technique from masking in public, but I'd expect it by secondary age. If she was truly hyperfocused on babies and parenting books, I don't think she'd be ignoring his needs and showing it on camera, particularly as she likes to portray being an expert.
Of course not all autistic women do, but some do. Propensity to mask does vary quite significantly and don’t forget that Bryony was mostly home-schooled and is an only child, so her socialisation has been quite limited relative to the average. That’s bound to have impeded her ability to mask.
 
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As an autistic woman, I completely agree. I think she probably is autistic. I don't think this is an excuse for her being plainly Terrible parent. Like without sounding like a picture book, autism can be really awesome and can give you an edge and making you excellent at pretty much anything. For me, learning I was autistic and learning how to use my neurodivergence to my own benefit was one of the most valuable things I have ever done.
I do agree that her parents did her a massive disservice pulling her out of school. Obviously school is not the best place for everyone with autism and I am not saying school was an altogether positive experience for me (it wasn't) but the further I am away from it the more I realise that the social skills I picked up on/observed/learnt there were the most valuable part of school for me.
It sounds dumb and although masking isn't something we should have to do, it is really valuable to learn how a neurotypical person would act or respond in a situation. I know I often get over-focussed on my brain and how I think things should be done but school and work help me interact with other people and see other perfectly acceptable ways of doing things. Bryony sadly has never had any of that and I think that is of huge detriment to her. Reading through this thread pretty much all the "issues" with Bryony would be resolved if she had more insight of her neurodivergence and any level of socialisation. I keep coming back to her enormously stereotypical view of men and relationships. This is because she has absolutely no experience of either. I actually don't even mean in a romantic sense - she has no understanding of genuine human/human relationships and no understanding of men outside of what she has seen online or in books.
 
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She perhaps hasn't even witnessed a particularly healthy relationship growing up. She told her mum she was going to TTC with their money, but had the mum withold that information from her husband and grandad to be for months. So she's going about her life, living together and not even mentioning it. Parents would normally talk about their child's major life choices. The fact they were paying, and her dad cooked for her and pushed her around in a wheelchair throughout her pregnancy, and looks after the baby weekly... but they didn't disclose her plan to him for months 🤨 That's a lot of information for a wife to withold every day from her husband.

Regardless of her special interest of menstruation and babies, there's no excuse for poor parenting, child exploitation and child neglect. Her character and personality are grim.

Why is she doing thumbnails of old sanitary pads and talking about bleeding from 9 months ago... gotta get those creepers attention as her views have halved.
 
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Always awkward to articulate, particularly in the midst of (entirely justified) judgment and criticism, so I preface this by saying that one of my children who I love desperately is severely autistic, but Bryony is herself very plainly autistic and further, pretty much every single one of the issues picked up on in this thread is explainable in that context alone (though I do think Munchausen’s is a likely factor too).
But it's not JUST autism with Bryony, there are actually elements of sociopathy, malingering, fabricated illness/Munchausens, hysteria, attention seeking, and being spoiled to her detriment by her parents. As well as social isolation/lack of exposure to the real world.
 
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But it's not JUST autism with Bryony, there are actually elements of sociopathy, malingering, fabricated illness/Munchausens, hysteria, attention seeking, and being spoiled to her detriment by her parents. As well as social isolation/lack of exposure to the real world.
Yeah I completely agree. I believe without a doubt that she is autistic and that explains a bulk of her eccentricities, but there’s so much more to her behaviour than that. Propensity to lie, manipulate and exploit aren’t really classical autistic traits.

Interesting she did make a point of saying she was screened for autism during her pregnancy mental health issues and wasn’t diagnosed. She said it very flippantly in a way that made me think she must at least suspect it? But it doesn’t fit into her narrative right now I guess. I wonder if she’ll jump on the late-diagnosis-neurodivergent-influencer band wagon in a few years when the baby vlogging money dries up completely. About 10 years too late as per usual with Byrony.

I also wonder if Oryn will have inherited it.

Also haven’t watched the postpartum bleeding video but I can just tell what it’s going to be -a day by day run through of her bleeding, including very specific details of which pads she wore when, how easy they were to change, how heavy or light the flow was, how much clotting etc, which fabrics are best. She’ll probably admit to using disposables more than expected and there’ll be no mention of the very strange fact she’s been collecting postpartum pads since she was 15. Plus bonus points for any ~normalise this thing~ language.

She still doesn’t realise there’s a good reason why play-by-play videos of people’s bodily fluids aren’t a popular YouTube genre lmao.
 
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Bryony and her obsession with talking about her bodily fluids is back.

I think the shouts of autism are right - and pads/periods are her fixated topic
 
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Is it just me or does her writing resemble a child’s?
Yeah I was genuinely quite shocked at this 😳 I think she has said she’s dyslexic so I can see why that might limit somebody’s handwriting experience … but then again so will leaving school at 14.
 
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Where is her writing?
On her Instagram story. She shared her gift label message to Oryn (that made her "tear up") that she wrote. That poor boy has nothing private of his own. She's somehow managed to make it about herself and share the (or what should be) private and personal words from mother to son. She's absolutely vile.

Also, Bryony if youre reading here, Hi! Super tasteless that it wasn't actually a Christmas card, and just the gift Label that the words were written on...you couldn't buy him a special Christmas card perhaps?

However, I guess you can't reuse a "baby's first Xmas card" every year though can you. As we all know how sUsTaInAbLe you claim to be 😉
 
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Yeah I was genuinely quite shocked at this 😳 I think she has said she’s dyslexic so I can see why that might limit somebody’s handwriting experience … but then again so will leaving school at 14.
Could be, I’m dyslexic and my school helped a lot with writing/spelling and gave me special pens etc, from years of using these I now write extremely neat without them, all because of the help. but then she probably wouldn’t of had this as she left school
 
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