Bryony Farmer #2 A baby is for life, not just before/after Christmas

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I think it’s very typical of Bryony that one person from La Leche mentions a medication she can take (domperidone) and she chases that until she can add yet another pill to her repertoire, despite her GP not agreeing - similar to her nausea in early pregnancy where she didn’t throw up once but HAD to take the high risk tablets her GP advised against, or else get an abortion - and this may well have been the trigger for her mental health issues.
 
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Did anyone get through the slog that was her breastfeeding video? It's tricky to know what is really true from her account of it, and maybe O does have a cows milk allergy, but regardless I noticed major Munchausens red flags from her narrative of it, and was shocked to find it follows the exact same pattern of her own health and relationship to professionals. It mirrors her past behaviour as a teenager and in her early 20s, then in her pregnancy and she's doing it to Oryn as we all predicted. Nothing is clinically wrong but Bryony has some ''concerns'' over mild/vague symptoms (most of which are just normal life - period pain, fatigue, nausea, low milk supply). She reaches out to professionals who confirm nothing is wrong, but reassure her they'll monitor it. She expresses frustration and seeks new opinions. She gets the attention / prescription she wants for a short time, the symptoms subside, and then the problem returns in a slightly different way and she seeks a new opinion.

The other major Munchausens red flags, by her own account:

a) All of his initial symptoms are mild, vague or within normal. She reports that numerous people over 12 weeks told her his latch was good, he didn't have tongue tie, his weight wasn't worrying, and she was recommended many times to feed and pump more to increase supply.
b) In the periods when his health/weight is stable and things are going well, she reports spontaneously feeling that'll something is wrong and seeks a new medical opinion. For a healthy baby with no concerning symptoms (by her own account), she sought opinions from multiple midwives, a private cranial osteopath, an online lactation consultant, a specific health visitor, a weigh-in clinic, La Leche League, a drop in breastfeeding class, her NHS GP, then a private GP to prescribe the meds she was previously refused. That's 10+ people. I know many specialists are involved in infant health but the concern for me is the deliberate shopping around for new opinions after multiple people had said O was healthy and had well established feeding.
c) It was when she reported being left unmonitored that O's symptoms dramatically worsen and he lost a large amount of weight quickly.

Other red flags are that the insinuated problem / his symptoms changed multiple times in her story. Initially, the latch, then her supply, then an allergy. I get they're all common issues but she blurs them into one. Also note she initially blames his latch being disrupted by a dummy, which she gave him at just a couple of days old because he was 'grisly' hungry and she needed to sleep. So even in the hospital she's admitting to feed-restrictive behaviour. She also says later he had symptoms she ''doesn't want to make public'' (as if the poor boy's health and very conception haven't been exploited for the past year and a half). To me, it's just a way to keep it vague and hide a potential lie. She knows cows milk allergies have more symptoms than just poor weight gain. But it's only his weight she can manipulate, so that's the only symptom she talks in depth about.

I'm sorry to say that I genuinely believe that she is/was feed restricting him. I don't think this is the last we'll hear about his allergy. As he gets older she will report more symptoms, seek more opinions, his symptoms will shift over time, then she'll need even more opinions and that's how it will keep going. He'll also be on whatever meds she chooses.
She doesn't do the one thing that would make him gain weight and now help his development (considering hes been underweight his entire life). Switch to formula.

She clearly doesn't produce enough milk. But she wants the attention and she wants him to depend on her. So she refuses to switch to formula.

I echo this in that I do believe she is deliberately starving him for multiple reasons, in particular to keep him small and babylike.
 
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She doesn't do the one thing that would make him gain weight and now help his development (considering hes been underweight his entire life). Switch to formula.

She clearly doesn't produce enough milk. But she wants the attention and she wants him to depend on her. So she refuses to switch to formula.

I echo this in that I do believe she is deliberately starving him for multiple reasons, in particular to keep him small and babylike.
Totally agree with this sentiment but what I was highlighting is that Oryn's weight was not of major concern to any professional he saw. She said again and again in the video, he was low on the centile chart but not really dropping, and none of the 10+ professions she saw in 10 weeks were that worried. He was gaining an appropriate amount of weight, even though he was quite small. In my mind she was restricting feeding to various extents in those first few months, just enough to garner attention and keep seeking new opinions.

When she had exhausted all medical opinions and been pretty much discharged by the last health visitor, that's when his weight plummeted to a dangerous level. Taking the info in her video, info we know about her, and also about medical fictions, my conclusion is that she deliberately reduced her supply by abruptly stopping pumping. Which in turn caused a major and sudden drop in his weight around 12 weeks, which is what she describes.

(Btw for those who don't know, breastfeeding is a supply and demand thing. The more you feed or pump, the more milk your breasts produce overall. That's why additional pumping alongside feeding works to increase milk supply for the baby. It's why Bryony's supply / Oryn's weight was healthy when she was following this advice. She chose to abruptly stop.)
 
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I didn't watch the update, but as a breastfeeding mother, the main thing you do to increase supply is lots of skin to skin and feeding on demand. The last thing you do is restrict feeding, seperate from your baby, supplement with formula, and refuse to pump. Sounds like she deliberately reduced her supply as that's the only outcome of the choices she made, giving her a need to seek out a risky medication and to be able to label the situation as 'special needs' or whatever term she kept using in earlier vlogs.
 
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I know she’s trying to emphasise the difference between foster children and her own child, but it’s a strange way to phrase it when he’s donor conceived. There’s a man out there he may never meet who has an equal biological connection to him. Bryony hated the process of being pregnant, she just likes that he looks like her.
I think it's cruel to foster children if you have the attitude that they're not as good as biological children. I thought anti choice people say adoption is an alternative, and yet children who aren't biologically related are constantly getting messages that they're not as good.
 
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I think she's a bit selfish. I know many women do a great job as single parents and I admire them, as sometimes they escape from situations such as domestic violence for the good of them and their children. They rarely purposely plan to deprive their future children of their other parent, because they wanted to and because they're lucky enough to have their parents buy them a house so they're a bored hypochondriac.

Not that there's anything wrong with lesbians, but I thought she was one, with the way she never seemed bothered to make an effort to do anything to make herself look attractive in the way men like, such as wear a bit of makeup. Then again, I don't think she'd make an effort for a woman either. Then I was imagining her inviting a man back to her place after a date, with buckets of soaking 10 year old reusable menstruation cloths, and then I realised I was letting my imagination run away too much.
 
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Does she not realise that in the vast majority of modern relationships, especially amongst our generation, housework and childcare are split? A partner IS someone who helps with washing, dishes, childcare etc - “You cooked tonight, I’ll do the dishes” “You’ve had the kids all day, I’ll do bedtime whilst you put your feet up”. Plus two incomes means more financial stability.

I’ve said it before but all her perceptions of relationships and men seem to come from her being chronically online with little to no real life experience. To be honest, if she was to date I can imagine her ending up in a relationship where she does all the housework and childcare purely because her attitude and seeming hatred towards men would put off a lot of the men who do pull their weight at home.
I got married to my now ex husband without living with him first, and even though we both worked, he only worked over the road and I travelled far, but he left me to do all the housework because he earned more money. He never even cleaned the toilet after he used it. I wondered if even though there was supposed to be equality, if most women were left to clean the toilet? I'm glad I never had children with him and spent years enjoying single life after him. I like it that my partner now has his own home, so when we're together it's nearly always a date night, and none of the boring tidying up after him apart from the odd times I'll make a special meal as thanks for him taking me out.
 
I think considering it that way many people would think the children conceived through a donor to a safe and loving home from the beginning are better off than those forced into a childhood of damaging contact with dangerous fathers. I'm not sure Bryony is providing a safe and loving home though, she's an exception in all the worst ways.

Maybe she accepted her appearance and thought there was no point even trying 🙈
 
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WHY is her child right by a glass??? Pretty dangerous to me, what if he breaks it and hurts himself??? And it’s right by his head too. Stupid idiot 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
 

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I just put her breastfeeding video on in the background and god she's so neurotic and incredibly selfish. She spent the first three months of his life chasing down different doctors and nurses to try to find something that's 'wrong' with her son (who seemed perfectly healthy despite being in the lower percentile), and getting angry at health professionals when they don't give her what she wants.

She was annoyed her GP wouldn't prescribe her the medication to increase her milk supply, but then was ok with going back on BC despite the fact that it could reduce her milk production because she "didn't want" to have a period. Shes either incredibly selfish and putting her comfort above the health of her child, or she know what there's actually nothing wrong with the kid but still wants the attention that having a 'health problem' gives her. Then she was disappointed that she had to put him on formula because he wasn't gaining enough weight on breastmilk only... Who cares? If she was so worried about his weight from the beginning why didn't she do that sooner, and why is she so upset about doing something that will help her child?

Me, me, me. SHE was convinced there was something wrong, SHE knew better than the doctors and nurses, giving him formula was hard for HER, his allergy affected HER cruise holiday. She's treating him like a doll, like he's her property who is there to please her. He seems to be a perfectly healthy and happy child, she should be grateful for that.

God she's insufferable. Making such a big deal about nothing. There are people out there who are actually sick or going through actual hardships in life who complain less than she does.
 
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She posted a story saying how sad she is that so many cloth nappy businesses are going out of business and having to close down, while also refusing to use cloth nappies despite creepily collecting them since she was 16 because it's too much work.
 
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I just put her breastfeeding video on in the background and god she's so neurotic and incredibly selfish. She spent the first three months of his life chasing down different doctors and nurses to try to find something that's 'wrong' with her son (who seemed perfectly healthy despite being in the lower percentile), and getting angry at health professionals when they don't give her what she wants.

She was annoyed her GP wouldn't prescribe her the medication to increase her milk supply, but then was ok with going back on BC despite the fact that it could reduce her milk production because she "didn't want" to have a period. Shes either incredibly selfish and putting her comfort above the health of her child, or she know what there's actually nothing wrong with the kid but still wants the attention that having a 'health problem' gives her. Then she was disappointed that she had to put him on formula because he wasn't gaining enough weight on breastmilk only... Who cares? If she was so worried about his weight from the beginning why didn't she do that sooner, and why is she so upset about doing something that will help her child?

Me, me, me. SHE was convinced there was something wrong, SHE knew better than the doctors and nurses, giving him formula was hard for HER, his allergy affected HER cruise holiday. She's treating him like a doll, like he's her property who is there to please her. He seems to be a perfectly healthy and happy child, she should be grateful for that.

God she's insufferable. Making such a big deal about nothing. There are people out there who are actually sick or going through actual hardships in life who complain less than she does.
You are completely right. I knew I was bothered by the sequence of all the issues but didn't have the brain power to work out what it was. But you have hit the nail on the head. She wanted the medication to increase her milk supply AND she simply HAD to be on the pill because "she couldn't deal with periods" even though she knew it was likely to reduce her supply. I think her priorities are completely wackadoodle. It appears her actual priority is "I want as much medical intervention and attention as possible". I also don't believe she's completely stupid. I think there has to be an element of she knows she's going to get higher engagement if she is a "mum with a chronic illness" with a child with "medical needs".
 
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Only started the 9 month vlog and already its bad. She's moaning about herself, 5 minutes of whinging about a stuffy nose 🙄

Next she reports he still sleeps 15 hours, from 6pm to 9.30am. Then say's "don't be fooled, he didn't sleep through the night", he woke after 5, 6, 7am and "grizzled". Bryony, insufferable idiot, he's trying to wake up because he's had almost 12 hours sleep. Being selfish and trying to force him to sleep for 3-4 more hours so you can be a lazy duck in your greasy pit is not OK. Ignoring him to where he's given up and only whimpers for hours because he knows you won't interact with him and you're neglectful, is shameful. Get your ass out of bed and greet your baby with a smile and warm interaction.

Every time that poor child wants to interact with her and is "grizzly" she denies interaction by putting him to sleep. She has no knowledge or maternal instincts. Many infants don't play alone, they're not happy to be shoved on a cold floor alone whilst mum ignores them and has "me time". Playtime for a baby is focused on social interaction fuckwit. So he "grizzles" alone and she decides it means he's tired even though he's recently woken up and is understimulated.

She reports him 'sleeping' a combined total of up to 19 hours a day. That's not healthy for a baby outwith the newborn phase. Every time he exhibits attachment seeking behaviours to interact, eat and develop, she isolates him and leaves him to "grizzle" to sleep.

What in the disturbing middle class subtle neglect is going on here.
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She thinks he's a doll that was her 'in' to finding a social group and an income 🤢 I'm sure he'll love to look back on these intrusive videos of her complaining about him for 24 hours straight.
 
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How many times does she cough on him or touch her nose ect then him without washing her hands. Poor little mite
 
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Why does she keep saying that she repeatedly ignores him whenever he wakes up in the hopes that he will go back to sleep? All those poor kids who she was supposed to be looking after, she must have ignored them even more. I can’t stand her!!!

the only thing I’m glad about is that she no longer harps on about looking young, I’ve thought she looked like 45 year old since she was about 15
 
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I tuned out after she said her dad recently had surgery so she was going to go and give him her illness by staying the night, and have him fix her fridge door because they wouldn't let her use a screwdriver by herself.

It's rare to see someone so intensely pathetic, self absorbed and lazy.
 
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I tuned out after she said her dad recently had surgery so she was going to go and give him her illness by staying the night, and have him fix her fridge door because they wouldn't let her use a screwdriver by herself.

It's rare to see someone so intensely pathetic, self absorbed and lazy.
He was cooking tea as well
 
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Nice, just had hand surgery and your family leave you to cook, drive you around and do DIY for you, and thank you by staying overnight to give you as many germs as possible. Lovely stuff. The women in that family seem just great 🤨
 
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