Brexit

[Gym&Tonic]

The DM getting their knickers in a knot because Macron says it like it is..

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...-says-Brexit-product-lies-false-promises.html

 

[Platypusfattypus]

Ok, don't 'carp' on.

She's haddock up to here with fish


I'll get my coat

 

[emmer_moans]

I saw the article about the coat - it’s eye opening. I know pre-EU people were used to customs charges etc, but you can imagine a lot of people getting caught out now, especially teens and young adults who have never really had an issue buying from the EU. I’m going to only by from companies shipping from the UK for a bit. I’ve also seen on facebook how some lorry drivers are having to redo paperwork and wait several days at the border since leaving the EU, obviously it was to be expected but that must be a very frustrating job to suddenly now be held up by red tape when movement used to be more free.

 

[HelloStereo]

Dreading going home for Christmas and brexit being a topic of conversation. My parents voted brexit and I work with and have close friends who are from the EU. Think I might down a bottle of wine if I hear “oh we don't want rid of people like them, they work and don’t sponge on the system” again.

I've always found this a strange argument when EU migrants contribute £2,300 more to the public purse than the average adult. Your parents have voted for the opposite of what they thought would happen, as the system will become less well-funded.

I do have a very small portion of sympathy for our Boris - stuck between a rock (Covid and vaccines) and a hard place (Brexit and EU). I know he is a buffoon most of the time, and is a bit wishy-washy when it comes to policy, but I really wouldn't fancy his job at all. And in truth he deserves (or rather the position of PM), a massive pay rise when you compare with the private sector and vacuous celebs and footballers.

Isn't the issue mostly of his making though? He was one of the main backers for Brexit, and he missed five cobra coronavirus meetings.

At least footballers bring some joy to people's lives (mostly), and they're actually good at what they do. Boris just brings incompetence and misery and has earned a fortune through it.

 

[Rockin' Robin]

Can we trade them Bojo for Trudeau?

I'd be happy to trade Bozo, for a chocolate teapot - he is about as much use as one!

 

[monga]

The DUP are putting the weirdest spin on Brexit. They are the only NI party that campaigned hard to leave the EU and now are acting like the border in the Irish Sea is someone elses fault.

That’s because they wanted the border between the republic and not the UK they’ve shot themselves in the knee foot with that one

 

[monga]

She's haddock up to here with fish


I'll get my coat

She's prawn crackered listening to you lot

 

[birdiefly246]

anyone have confidence in the deal? I struggle to have any confidence in Boris and his cabinet so I'm not holding my breath that the situation will get better

 

[Romy]

When you look at the nitty gritty of leaving the EU there's a lot more than fish to consider (all some are focusing on )it's shocking some of the implications for people ..finding Nemo being the least of them .

The fishing is a part of the agreement that is eventually quite good for the UE. Less than 0,1% of the GDP and 120000 fishermen in the UK. Did people really think that BJ would care anyway?

 

[FridaK]

Actually looked at the fishery situation before whilst listening to the update that the vaccine 2nd doses were cancelled and it suddenly dawned on me that we have fuck all going for us as a country right now
I’ve followed Brexit intently and thought I’d be relieved when the deed was done, but I just felt still as though I’d been stripped of rights against my will

 

[Platypusfattypus]

The UK have taken the same approach to brexit as I do deadlines. Ignore the fuck out of them and then panic last minute trying to get everything done.

 

[Mulholland Drive]

I think Trump has messed up their plans they were expecting him to walk it back into the Whitehouse ...it's all very odd

I haven't been following the Brexit circus at No 10 lately, purely due to the Pandemic circus going on at No 10

But I do suspect any momentum for a No Deal, is eroding away given the current resignations; and that transition seems to be dragging on and on.

Boris will find himself between a rock (the inexorable EU) and a hard place (the implacable Biden) very soon, with Brexit very much in tatters.

 

[Reverend]

Well that was worth waiting all that time and spending all that money on. I'm most upset about the Erasmus scheme and hope that the government can come up with a decent alternative.

It's not over. There is a re-negotiation clause that can be activated in 2024. What's the betting it's triggered just before the next election as the tories are saying that the EU are not sticking to the agreement......

I wonder how many Tories were able to study abroad as part of Erasmus? A fair few I’d imagine. But they’re happy to rob todays young people of that opportunity, that’s why this whole thing stinks.

Erasmus actually predates the EU. It’s been around since the 1970’s.

Removing opportunities and funding for things that they had these days seem to be part of politicans MO.. See Blair with introducing uni fees, and Cameron/Clegg for whacking them up to £9,000 ayear.....

 

[monga]

Will it improve? the divorce bill has already increased by 10 billion

 

[Reverend]

Sanity tax has nothing to do with the EU. Actually, I am from a working class background and I discovered "period poverty" issue in the British newspapers, astonished it could be a problem in a rich country like Britain.
As for the covid vaccine, it's only a few weeks' difference. And most people are in no rush. The worst is France. Only 4 of ten people want to get vaccinated against covid. Antivax conspiracy is powerful.

A Sanity tax? Well the British won;t have to pay that!!!

Seriously though, the tampon tax comes mainly from men being at the top, and if men had periods, it would never even been put in operation. (I'm a man btw).

 

[magic82]

So Scotland want independence. but at the same time want to be told what to do by the EU Parliament

Technically, Scotland would secede from the Act of Union 1707.

She would then have the choice of how to engage with the EU such as full membership or a Norway or Swiss deal.

But the common consensus is the EU is a far more honourable, coherent and productive entity than Westminster.

 

[Platypusfattypus]

Not to be dramatic but as a language student currently on an Erasmus scheme I am fucking heartbroken about it. Erasmus is so valuable to everyone Europe not just the UK and to think the government can just throw it aside in replacement of Boris' "most amazing new scheme with the best unis" is just horrid. I hope universities have a back up plan with their partner unis in Europe. I'm lucky that I went when I did. It's devastating to all those who will come after my year.

Not dramatic at all. I don't think people fully understand what we've lost. But hey I can get my passport renewed into a blue one made in Poland (kicking myself I didn't renew it sooner)

 

[monga]

It’s having a big effect here both north and south and going by this British people trying to export their goods are fecked

 

[Sunflower91]

Dreading going home for Christmas and brexit being a topic of conversation. My parents voted brexit and I work with and have close friends who are from the EU. Think I might down a bottle of wine if I hear “oh we don't want rid of people like them, they work and don’t sponge on the system” again.

 

[monga]