A member of my family died young and we always say weather / clouds are signs or robins etc, are them. Deep down I don't believe it is them, but I like saying it because it gives an opportunity to say her name out loud or to remember her for a quick moment. It's hard to bring up those that have died when it was a traumatic event because you worry about upsetting your family / friends again, so being able to say - 'oh look that shape in the clouds is ...' is an easy way to remember them without too much conversation about it.
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Set up a charity
There are 6 steps to setting up a charity.
I wonder if Ashley and Safiya have management behind them now with the charity, fundraisers etc if so I hope the companies intentions are right
There are 6 steps to setting up a charity.
- Find trustees for your charity - you usually need at least 3.
- Make sure the charity has ‘charitable purposes for the public benefit’.
- Choose a name for your charity.
- Choose a structure for your charity.
- Create a ‘governing document’.
- Register as a charity if your annual income is over £5,000 or if you set up a charitable incorporated organisation (CIO).
I wonder if Ashley and Safiya have management behind them now with the charity, fundraisers etc if so I hope the companies intentions are right
just watched the Azaylia foundation video.
oh god, I had to really fight to hold back the tears! These are two very broken people
This world is not bloody fair!!
oh god, I had to really fight to hold back the tears! These are two very broken people
This world is not bloody fair!!
I’m going to watch that later when I’m on my own as I know it’s going to be emotionaljust watched the Azaylia foundation video.
oh god, I had to really fight to hold back the tears! These are two very broken people
This world is not bloody fair!!
Their on Giovanna Fletchers podcast
I really don’t think their equipped to deal with this problem. Saf is discussing how doctors won’t do blood tests because of funding. I know there’s a current shortage of tubes however I don’t think funding is the reason at all GP’s will do blood tests all the time
They also shut GF down when she says doctors deal with colic all the time.
Whilst I agree there needs to be more awareness I think theres a tendency to do some scaremongering or over exaggerate symptoms and before we know it we’ll have lots of parents going to GP’s because there child has colic and they’ve heard from Ashley cain it’s something more serious.
also interesting saf says she has a medical background and knew the signs but then says she didn’t know leukemia was a cancer. Part of me thinks they’ve just lived very sheltered lives to not know these things exist with what she’s describing she didn’t know on the podcast.
they also don’t speak together very separate on the podcast he doesn’t bounce off what she’s saying whereas she does.
it’s tragic what’s happened but I don’t think any of this is been handled correctly
I really don’t think their equipped to deal with this problem. Saf is discussing how doctors won’t do blood tests because of funding. I know there’s a current shortage of tubes however I don’t think funding is the reason at all GP’s will do blood tests all the time
They also shut GF down when she says doctors deal with colic all the time.
Whilst I agree there needs to be more awareness I think theres a tendency to do some scaremongering or over exaggerate symptoms and before we know it we’ll have lots of parents going to GP’s because there child has colic and they’ve heard from Ashley cain it’s something more serious.
also interesting saf says she has a medical background and knew the signs but then says she didn’t know leukemia was a cancer. Part of me thinks they’ve just lived very sheltered lives to not know these things exist with what she’s describing she didn’t know on the podcast.
they also don’t speak together very separate on the podcast he doesn’t bounce off what she’s saying whereas she does.
it’s tragic what’s happened but I don’t think any of this is been handled correctly
They are clearly devastated and there should be no judgement on how they grieve.
However, monetizing the tragedy is obviously not going to sit well with followers who have already contributed. The nurse mum is also making money off the back of her tragedy by quickly opening a shop and lots of emotional blackmailing of followers to buy 'jaxon inspired' products. Where does it all end. If you're collecting money for charity that's a completely different issue, but if the money is to fund luxuries, hotels and holidays then the people contributing financially to those luxuries will comment and not all comments will be supportive. Especially when there has already been a 50k gofundme to help TNM in the aftermath.
Saf is extremely vulnerable, I hope working on the foundation gives her a distraction and focus. She looks utterly destroyed. I think they'll make a real difference if they're well advised and really think about where the money is best used.
However, monetizing the tragedy is obviously not going to sit well with followers who have already contributed. The nurse mum is also making money off the back of her tragedy by quickly opening a shop and lots of emotional blackmailing of followers to buy 'jaxon inspired' products. Where does it all end. If you're collecting money for charity that's a completely different issue, but if the money is to fund luxuries, hotels and holidays then the people contributing financially to those luxuries will comment and not all comments will be supportive. Especially when there has already been a 50k gofundme to help TNM in the aftermath.
Saf is extremely vulnerable, I hope working on the foundation gives her a distraction and focus. She looks utterly destroyed. I think they'll make a real difference if they're well advised and really think about where the money is best used.
This is what I don’t understand because they have a large following they are entitled to 50k (the nurse mum) to help her get by, most people have to work or at least rely on benefits what about people with no Instagram following who rely on benefits and no support network
Does she have her own thread? Can it be linked if so? Please
I think - they didn't think they could survive the grief... So instead of allowing the grief to really hit, they sucked themselves into a project. It is totally understandable and it's a great thing to do. Keep your mind busy. You can't break if you're busy doing other things and setting up a charity is no easy feat. They are going to be busy constantly, always thinking up ideas, going to meetings, doing research, networking with other people. I wish them all the best and I really hope they smash it and do everything they say they will do. I know a girl who's kid has cancer and is always at the children's hospital getting chemo & having check ups.
Imagine being told your child is riddled with cancer, giving her chemo which is essentially poison and then watching it ravish your kid... and if you're one of the unlucky ones, watch them die. It's brutal and I'd want to die along with her if it was me. The only way I could keep sane & stop myself from drowning is to keep myself busy. Charity for these, and for thenursemum its her shop she wants to do. It's gotta be better than drowning in grief and having thoughts of suicide just so everything can stop.
I do find Ashley comes across quite "me me me" but I guess if he wasnt, we wouldnt know who he is as he would never have been casted to go on reality tv.
Imagine being told your child is riddled with cancer, giving her chemo which is essentially poison and then watching it ravish your kid... and if you're one of the unlucky ones, watch them die. It's brutal and I'd want to die along with her if it was me. The only way I could keep sane & stop myself from drowning is to keep myself busy. Charity for these, and for thenursemum its her shop she wants to do. It's gotta be better than drowning in grief and having thoughts of suicide just so everything can stop.
I do find Ashley comes across quite "me me me" but I guess if he wasnt, we wouldnt know who he is as he would never have been casted to go on reality tv.
I will side with them on this. I am from the UK and now live in Canada. When I lived in the UK, for YEARS, I was dismissed by doctors not wanting to do tests. I had an incident happen as a teenager, where I was dismissed and I am lucky I did not end up with blood poisoning and die or for it to have been something more sinister. I know many people who have been ill and the doctors will not do testing... some have died. The NHS IS really underfunded and because of that, many doctors are dismissive and do not want to test.
Only did I realise how terrible they were when I moved to Canada. I had been ill 12 years and told it was all in my head by NHS doctors. Well, it took a couple of months to get imaging done here and a referral to a specialist which confirmed endometriosis. Never when I have been to a doctor here did I not feel listened to. Doctors here will not hesitate to do testing. I do not think many British people (like myself) realise how awful the testing system is there until they move away or something bad happens.
Doctors get it wrong all over the world, UK, Canada ... everywhere - this isn't a UK / NHS problem - you need to feel confident about your instincts if you feel something is wrong which I think is what Ashley means. NHS funding does not stop getting people diagnosed - some conditions are difficult to diagnose, some doctors are not good at understanding symptoms, but no UK doctor declines the opportunity for someone to have a test because of funding.
It’s not just the underfunding of it though, people do abuse the NHS and go there for things that they frankly don’t need to, which in turn puts more stress on the doctors and probably makes it harder to actually notice when there is a serious problem, especially because so many conditions can have similar symptoms.. I think it’s awful some people have to wait until unfortunately sometimes it is too late, my grandad was one of them, he died from pancreatic cancer weeks after being diagnosed as they dismissed it as something else
I guess they are just dismissive and do not want to test then. I have seen it with too many people, not just myself.
I do agree some are dismissive, in my first pregnancy I was only 18/19 and was not listened to at all, and have only found out recently through my third pregnancy almost 4 years later that they didn’t follow correct procedures, for example, my bump was measuring 5 weeks over throughout my pregnancy, however my son was born at over 40 weeks weighing 6lbs, I had a feeling something was wrong but none of the midwives listened
Ashley really doesn't come across well at all I don't think, especially on the Giovanna podcast. He keeps answering questions that were asked of Saffiya and seems very controlling, making decisions for Saffiya eg the c section.
I really think he ought to think about the way he presents himself if he wants to have a future in the public eye.
I really think he ought to think about the way he presents himself if he wants to have a future in the public eye.
Unless they’ve had a conversation before and out of the two of them he is best to answer because she’s more raw and they just want these interviews to be over!
I live in the UK and whilst it’s great we have ‘free’ healthcare, it has many, many flaws. I was misdiagnosed for 7yrs, told it was all in my head, try yoga. I now have a great GP but they seem to be few and far between. The NHS has been on its knees for years (well before covid) and needs major investment. My friend has been waiting for a hysterectomy for over 18mtjs, it’s been pushed back another 18mths. Her quality of life is greatly impacted but it’s deemed ‘not essential’.
I watched that interview with Lorraine this morning and felt sad for saf. I think she really, really wants to break, but Ashley is pressuring her to keep going and “be strong”. I think if that’s the case, that might be adding to her anxiety. I noticed in the interview too he didn’t even support saf, little eye contact and he just looked ashamed when she kept saying “let’s go champ” but I think that was just nerves because she doesn’t know what to say and that’s something to add.
They’ve been through something so awful and I can’t comprehend their pain. But it does feel like Ashley is trying to be in the limelight and more vocal than saf. I feel sad that Saf barely gets to speak about her pain and it’s all focused on him, like why wasn’t she at the interview with Ferne!? It makes me just want to pick her up and cuddle her because Ash seems so cold and unsupportive of her
They’ve been through something so awful and I can’t comprehend their pain. But it does feel like Ashley is trying to be in the limelight and more vocal than saf. I feel sad that Saf barely gets to speak about her pain and it’s all focused on him, like why wasn’t she at the interview with Ferne!? It makes me just want to pick her up and cuddle her because Ash seems so cold and unsupportive of her
All the people on this thread who have lost kids I am truly sorry I can't imagine
But to say u can't speak on or judge them well that's not true. Everyone has the right to an opinion and if they are now monitising their platforms we have a right to comment if they are now running a charity they should be held accountable. I haven't experienced alot of things but I can pass judgement in it that's just human nature
But to say u can't speak on or judge them well that's not true. Everyone has the right to an opinion and if they are now monitising their platforms we have a right to comment if they are now running a charity they should be held accountable. I haven't experienced alot of things but I can pass judgement in it that's just human nature
I have 3 medical conditions which are hard to diagnose
But the way they portray it isn’t accurate
The nhs is underfunded but to argue it’s too underfunded to do blood tests isn’t true
This!
A simple blood test wouldn’t have been refused due to funding. A scan potentially but not a blood test
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