I've wondered this before, being a CT does seem to be quite a privileged Western thing. Except for Australia, we either don't really exist or are living under some kind of military regime.I heard being awake is agony so I’d rather just stay asleep tbh
Controversial but I wonder how much of conspiracy theories is also to do with being white and seeing every other race as a bit lesser than them. The likes of China have been slowly nearing the reality of what I would think some would consider the reality of their conspiracy theories. North Korea has basically been that way since the Kim regime decided they’re Gods. Probably any country that has an authoritarian twinge to it could be included in this really. Some would say that our policies towards asylum claimants are the start of the introduction of that sort of world but of course no one really seems to talk about it. It becomes an issue when they’re, or other Europeans/Americans, are affected
There are a few of us, I've lost two close friends to CT bullshit. Fluoride, aliens, 5g, you name it. My husband has some outrageous views and is very much anti vaccine but he's calmed down a bit. It's very hard to address as the person always seems to think they have the key to the world's secrets and won't budge. I'm sorry I don't have any advice to offer, I cut one friend off and was cut off by the other. My husband and I just agree to disagree as it's not worth arguing about.Does anyone here struggle with relatives who have been brainwashed by social media?
My sister in law started out as anti vax as she unfortunately knew someone in real life who had one of the one a million reactions to the HPV jab. Then Covid happened and she is not only a Covid denier but things all of Hollywood are paedophiles, there's a gay agenda, the World Bank thing exists, climate change is fake and 5g is killing us all. All the main ones, she believes.
She's british and her friend list is mostly americans who I assume all believe the same stuff. I don't think I or my partner can do anything to change her views but man I find it depressing. Especially as she has young impressionable kids. The impact social media, Facebook in particular, has had on her is astounding. She also bring it up all the time in real life.
It's like they saw her anti vax attitudes and reeled her in for everything else. Awful.
I don't get why they've attached CTs to her death. It was pretty clear she had substance and alcohol abuse issues linked to depression. She hadn't had an easy life. Quite why they feel the need to attach a load of mystery to it is beyond me.So apparently there's "something off' about the death of Anne Heche, who tragically died following a car crash and resulting fire. The evidence for this 'something off' includes:
Lurking CT-ists may be able to make something of the fact that she also appeared in "Pie In The Sky", "Volcano", "Psycho", "Superman - Doomsday", "My Friend Dahmer", "The Vanished", "Another World", "Save Me" and "Aftermath"
- She was in a 3 year relationship with Ellen DeGeneres ( which Heche ended 22 years ago and since when she spent 18 years in two other relationships including a marriage and the birth of 2 children
- She made a science fiction film 14 years ago which involved 'chemtrails' (one of over 40 films and almost 40 tv shows that she appeared in)
Thankfully not! I can imagine how frustrating that would be.Does anyone here struggle with relatives who have been brainwashed by social media?
My sister in law started out as anti vax as she unfortunately knew someone in real life who had one of the one a million reactions to the HPV jab. Then Covid happened and she is not only a Covid denier but things all of Hollywood are paedophiles, there's a gay agenda, the World Bank thing exists, climate change is fake and 5g is killing us all. All the main ones, she believes.
She's british and her friend list is mostly americans who I assume all believe the same stuff. I don't think I or my partner can do anything to change her views but man I find it depressing. Especially as she has young impressionable kids. The impact social media, Facebook in particular, has had on her is astounding. She also bring it up all the time in real life.
It's like they saw her anti vax attitudes and reeled her in for everything else. Awful.
Absolutely, and I think you’ll find that many if not all of us who post here do not blindly believe the media and are open to debate but need solid evidence. I would say we are realists, we know bad shit goes on and there are many injustices in life we don’t fall into the category of thinking everything from Covid to Hollywood is conspiracy central.I have read both this post and the CT post and not previously got involved in either (as far as I can remember anyway). They both can seem a little tribal to the casual reader in some cases. Personally I'd never call myself a CTist but likewise I don't blindly believe things either as there is a lot of rubbish in the media and something it is in the interest of big business or politicians to hide things from us or certainly to put a spin on things that suits their agenda. I'm not sure what I'm posting now really and it's only on this one as I'm reading this now, I guess it's just that most people are somewhere in the middle, they don't believe everything they're told by MSN but they don't disbelieve it all either. There are obvious extremes on both ends where far less people sit. I think my position is that not to question anything is very naïve and somewhat in denial of realism but likewise sometimes things are totally exactly what they look like and it must be very tiring always looking for an ulterior motive but there's loads of grey in the middle.
I certainly agree that being critical of things is a good idea. Being "anti" conspiracy theories doesn't mean never questioning anything.I have read both this post and the CT post and not previously got involved in either (as far as I can remember anyway). They both can seem a little tribal to the casual reader in some cases. Personally I'd never call myself a CTist but likewise I don't blindly believe things either as there is a lot of rubbish in the media and something it is in the interest of big business or politicians to hide things from us or certainly to put a spin on things that suits their agenda. I'm not sure what I'm posting now really and it's only on this one as I'm reading this now, I guess it's just that most people are somewhere in the middle, they don't believe everything they're told by MSN but they don't disbelieve it all either. There are obvious extremes on both ends where far less people sit. I think my position is that not to question anything is very naïve and somewhat in denial of realism but likewise sometimes things are totally exactly what they look like and it must be very tiring always looking for an ulterior motive but there's loads of grey in the middle.
I think this misrepresents the issue. It isn't the extent to which one believes what they are told by the MSM (or governments etc). The issue is the extent to which one believe conspiracy theories. I think the people that you describe as 'in the middle' are in fact at one end of the scale (described in the following chart as "grounded in reality") and those at the other end broadly endorse the view that the world is controlled by a shadowy (possibly alien) elite who want to dominate or destroy most of the rest of us (described as "detached from reality". The chart below demonstrates the span of belief most clearly. So the purpose of this thread is for people who are largely at the bottom of the inverted pyramid to discuss the to us, increasingly lunatic ideas described above the 'green zone'. Of course it isn't perfect and one can argue that some subjects might be better placed a step up or down the scale. Also I am not claiming that everyone who posts in this tread are all totally in the 'green zone' and that those that post in the other thread are all in the 'red zone'. People here don't all think or believe the same thing and neither do those posting elsewhere.I have read both this post and the CT post and not previously got involved in either (as far as I can remember anyway). They both can seem a little tribal to the casual reader in some cases. Personally I'd never call myself a CTist but likewise I don't blindly believe things either as there is a lot of rubbish in the media and something it is in the interest of big business or politicians to hide things from us or certainly to put a spin on things that suits their agenda. I'm not sure what I'm posting now really and it's only on this one as I'm reading this now, I guess it's just that most people are somewhere in the middle, they don't believe everything they're told by MSN but they don't disbelieve it all either. There are obvious extremes on both ends where far less people sit. I think my position is that not to question anything is very naïve and somewhat in denial of realism but likewise sometimes things are totally exactly what they look like and it must be very tiring always looking for an ulterior motive but there's loads of grey in the middle.
I have very similar feelings on it all. I know some people who can only think in absolutes and the 'grey' in life seems to unnerve them. The 'grey' is far more complex, non-linear and messy- much more difficult to engage with. It's sometimes easier to say, 'This is how it is!' Not all CT-ers are stupid people. Quite the contrary. It's just that they have total conviction in what they believe and and challenge to their belief is a threat to their identity.I have read both this post and the CT post and not previously got involved in either (as far as I can remember anyway). They both can seem a little tribal to the casual reader in some cases. Personally I'd never call myself a CTist but likewise I don't blindly believe things either as there is a lot of rubbish in the media and something it is in the interest of big business or politicians to hide things from us or certainly to put a spin on things that suits their agenda. I'm not sure what I'm posting now really and it's only on this one as I'm reading this now, I guess it's just that most people are somewhere in the middle, they don't believe everything they're told by MSN but they don't disbelieve it all either. There are obvious extremes on both ends where far less people sit. I think my position is that not to question anything is very naïve and somewhat in denial of realism but likewise sometimes things are totally exactly what they look like and it must be very tiring always looking for an ulterior motive but there's loads of grey in the middle.
I think it's a form of brainwashing really. Which is ironic, as I know they see "the masses" as brainwashed.I have very similar feelings on it all. I know some people who can only think in absolutes and the 'grey' in life seems to unnerve them. The 'grey' is far more complex, non-linear and messy- much more difficult to engage with. It's sometimes easier to say, 'This is how it is!' Not all CT-ers are stupid people. Quite the contrary. It's just that they have total conviction in what they believe and and challenge to their belief is a threat to their identity.
I checked my WEF handbook and it says nothing about losing magical powers so whoever it was wot dun it, it wasn't them.I want my magical powers back pls Satanists
As een on Reddit the other day:I hope this person hasn't reproduced.
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I've never heard it before. It's almost like they hear something and think the opposite is the truth.As een on Reddit the other day:
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Seems to be a relatively common conspiracy theory that vegetable oil is toxic.
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