Anti Conspiracy Theories #2 when a YouTube video just won’t do!

[mcfeez]

I've seen academic, peer reviewed studies labelled as "main stream media" by some CTs - uhh since when? Not being condescending, but the vast majority are not for consumption by the average reader. Anyone whos done a degree will know how tricky academic journals can be to digest and thats in their own specialist fields related to whicever degree you are studying.

It additionally makes no sense when it's been quite clear that Boris Johnson is quite happy to kill everyone to keep everything open.

" Let the bodies pile high" - a man who loves lockdowns, clearly

 

[Moth]

Latest in the long line of attempts to uncover the 'truth' that Covid figures are exaggerated is the revelation that there is something called the NOIDs Weekly Report which records the notification of infectious diseases for England and Wales. In the report for week ending 23rd May it shows only 6 cases of Covid-19.

Now I am sure that this was the result of extensive independent research and that it's entirely coincidental that (quoting different weekly reports) this load of old nonsense has been pedalled around the CT community for months. It's therefore unfortunate that the 'extensive research' wasn't extensive enough to discover that 'NOIDs' reports are made by doctors who suspect that a patient may have Covid. In fact back in February a FOI information request clarified

The Statutory Notification of Infectious Diseases (NOIDS) is a process allowing registered medical practitioners to notify PHE of a suspected case of a notifiable disease. These are based on clinical suspicion alone and as such a proportion of these are likely not to be the suspected infection. Laboratory confirmed cases of notifiable diseases are collected by a separate national laboratory reporting system. These two methods of reporting operate independently.
NOIDS reports do not represent the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases. The daily number of laboratory confirmed COVID-19 cases, as declared by PHE and by the Government, can be found at: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

Spoiler: It turns out that rather than 6 cases of Covid in w/e 23rd May there were actually 17,036.

 

[Clojo92]

Also from the Australian Academy of Science, this chart helpfully illustrates the benefits of vaccines:

(source here)

Baffles me that someone can see a chart like this and think vaccines are bad.

 

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Latest in the long line of attempts to uncover the 'truth' that Covid figures are exaggerated is the revelation that there is something called the NOIDs Weekly Report which records the notification of infectious diseases for England and Wales. In the report for week ending 23rd May it shows only 6 cases of Covid-19.

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Now I am sure that this was the result of extensive independent research and that it's entirely coincidental that (quoting different weekly reports) this load of old nonsense has been pedalled around the CT community for months. It's therefore unfortunate that the 'extensive research' wasn't extensive enough to discover that 'NOIDs' reports are made by doctors who suspect that a patient may have Covid. In fact back in February a FOI information request clarified

The Statutory Notification of Infectious Diseases (NOIDS) is a process allowing registered medical practitioners to notify PHE of a suspected case of a notifiable disease. These are based on clinical suspicion alone and as such a proportion of these are likely not to be the suspected infection. Laboratory confirmed cases of notifiable diseases are collected by a separate national laboratory reporting system. These two methods of reporting operate independently.
NOIDS reports do not represent the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases. The daily number of laboratory confirmed COVID-19 cases, as declared by PHE and by the Government, can be found at: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

Spoiler: It turns out that rather than 6 cases of Covid in w/e 23rd May there were actually 17,036.

Thank you Moth, I posted that on the CT thread and I did say that I didn't know what the report was referring to or understand the data and if anyone did could they explain, which you have done.

 

[Moth]

Thank you Moth, I posted that on the CT thread and I did say that I didn't know what the report was referring to or understand the data and if anyone did could they explain, which you have done.

You're right you did. I apologise for mistakenly lumping you in with Covid denying CT-ers.

 

[_basic_]

Katie twatting Hopkins has posted on insta about bribing youngsters to get the vaccine and the comments underneath are vile. Including this lovely one. Disgusting people who have no proof whatsoever of this situation wishing bad things to happen to people who wish to have the vaccine. They all sound like raving loonies who are chucking their toys out the pram that people aren’t jumping on their bandwagon. I would never wish harm to anyone not wanting the vaccine why on Earth can’t they mind their own bleeping business?

The stupid is loud and clear here:

I’ve just scrolled down the rest of her page, the woman is a bleeping lunatic. All of these posts from someone who judges people for giving their children geographical names while naming her child India. What a wanker. How can people like her be so hypocritical saying that people are being brainwashed, when she has a platform like she does? The irony is ridiculous!

 

[Tublet83]

 

[caroleffinbaskin]

Katie twatting Hopkins has posted on insta about bribing youngsters to get the vaccine and the comments underneath are vile. Including this lovely one. Disgusting people who have no proof whatsoever of this situation wishing bad things to happen to people who wish to have the vaccine. They all sound like raving loonies who are chucking their toys out the pram that people aren’t jumping on their bandwagon. I would never wish harm to anyone not wanting the vaccine why on Earth can’t they mind their own bleeping business?View attachment 598741

The stupid is loud and clear here:

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I’ve just scrolled down the rest of her page, the woman is a bleeping lunatic. All of these posts from someone who judges people for giving their children geographical names while naming her child India. What a wanker. How can people like her be so hypocritical saying that people are being brainwashed, when she has a platform like she does? The irony is ridiculous!

I reckon she’s had her 2nd vaccine. She’s just a gobshite oxygen thief and i absolutely despise the woman.

 

[_basic_]

I reckon she’s had her 2nd vaccine. She’s just a gobshite oxygen thief and i absolutely despise the woman.

I honestly don’t think I’ve disliked someone in the public eye more. She’s such a hypocritical bully I don’t even know why I’m suprised that she has taken this Avenue. She’s a dangerous woman whipping people into a frenzy, she’s finally found herself a platform where more than a couple of people will back her.
I stopped arguing with people on social media years ago for my own sanity but the comments on her posts about covid and the vaccine are pricking at my rage sensor

 

[Moth]

I honestly don’t think I’ve disliked someone in the public eye more. She’s such a hypocritical bully I don’t even know why I’m suprised that she has taken this Avenue. She’s a dangerous woman whipping people into a frenzy, she’s finally found herself a platform where more than a couple of people will back her.
I stopped arguing with people on social media years ago for my own sanity but the comments on her posts about covid and the vaccine are pricking at my rage sensor

I loathe her too but I find it hard to blame her. She has correctly identified that there is a market (and a growing one) for populist claptrap that tells people what they want to hear because reality is too uncomfortable for them. One only has to look at the latest coronavirus thread where a poll shows that only 22% think the decision on whether to go ahead with the lockdown changes on 21st June should be based on science. The 'we've had enough of experts' trend began a few years ago and I'm afraid is now manifesting itself as 'scientists can eff-off'.

 

[Prgirl_cesca]

Did anyone see the antivaxxer programme on Channel 5 last night? Wondering if it is worth a watch?

 

[caroleffinbaskin]

Did anyone see the antivaxxer programme on Channel 5 last night? Wondering if it is worth a watch?

Yes it was very interesting.

 

[Doctor_Wibble]

Yes it was very interesting.

Something of an eye-opener - I knew there was money in it, I just hadn't realised quite how much, and the tactics used against someone who rebelled against his parents to go and get a vaccine were seriously overboard.

Of all the weird things to rebel against, I'm reminded of the much rehashed "sorry dad I am trying to get interested in this jazz band of yours but my real love is the accountancy business".
My own first encounter with that one - MAD Magazine. Last century

 

[MaineCoonMama]

I'm cool with not being vaccinated if you don't feel comfortable with it. I'm still deciding whether to or not, tbh.
I'm not even really a believer in karma but I can't help feeling this cranky right-wing dick did indeed get what was coming to him.

 

[Purrrrrrr]

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I'm cool with not being vaccinated if you don't feel comfortable with it. I'm still deciding whether to or not, tbh.
I'm not even really a believer in karma but I can't help feeling this cranky right-wing dick did indeed get what was coming to him.

He has survived though and without a vaccine, Some people who have been vaccinated have not survived. Things like this don't prove anything other than both covid and vaccine are a gamble.


There are a number on the flip side of this I don't believe they got what was coming to them It just makes me very sad.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

He has survived though and without a vaccine, Some people who have been vaccinated have not survived. Things like this don't prove anything other than both covid and vaccine are a gamble.


There are a number on the flip side of this I don't believe they got what was coming to them It just makes me very sad.

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I'm not sad about a homophobic racist claiming a vaccine will kill everyone except those who adhere to his beliefs getting sick.

He has survived though and without a vaccine, Some people who have been vaccinated have not survived. Things like this don't prove anything other than both covid and vaccine are a gamble.


There are a number on the flip side of this I don't believe they got what was coming to them It just makes me very sad.

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I'm specifically referring to this homophobic racist POS claiming the vaccine will kill anyone who doesn't share his beliefs and calling them idiots. I don't even know who these other people are and they have nothing to do with this guy getting Covid and claiming it was flung at him from hell.

 

[Moth]

Very nice to wake up to the news that one threat to public health has been dealt with ...

Anti-vax nurse who spread fake COVID theories comparing NHS to Nazis struck off

Kate Shemirani used her status as a health professional to spread 'distorted propaganda' about the Covid-19 pandemic - claiming symptoms of the virus were caused by 5G and that vaccines were 'rushed through' because 'they want to kill you'

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[caroleffinbaskin]

So someone dies over 2 months after having the vaccine and it’s automatically assumed that’s what killed him? To say that’s a bit of a stretch is me being very polite!

 

[Purrrrrrr]

So someone dies over 2 months after having the vaccine and it’s automatically assumed that’s what killed him? To say that’s a bit of a stretch is me being very polite!

Depends, many of those who died were ill right after the vaccination until they died. No stretching there

 

[_basic_]

I think if an article is written that includes all of the evidence that someone did sadly die due to the vaccine then it’s undeniable but it’s the sensationalist headlines that annoy me, usually from the likes of the daily fail that are purposely vague and don’t actually tell you anything apart from someone is seriously ill, or has died and mentions they have had the vaccine in the same article. I’m not sure about the guy who is mentioned here as haven’t seen the article