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It reminded me of one of those 'docudrama' things that are on constantly. The ones where you have someone who looks nothing like the person act out what is getting talked about.
I didn't know it was Sam Taylor Johnson directing but now I know, I'm not surprised at how average it looks. She got a lot of good reviews for Nowhere Boy but the story that has gone around for years is that it was others who did her job while she was spending her time with Aaron and she got the credit. I have to say it makes sense because nearly everything she has done since has been crap.
Amy's life is well documented and there's tons of footage of her. These biopics are just mindless cash grabs. Definitely the worst film genre out there, they're all rubbish.
We were in London at the weekend and walked past Amy's statue. Loads of people there taking photos with it. There's a gold sheen to her shoulder from so many people putting an arm around it for a picture. I actually felt immensely sad. It was almost as though, even in death, she still can't escape the cameras and everyone wanting something from her.
and the statue doesnt even look like her. the hair and dress are the only way you can really tell its her. it makes me so sad. she was so great, and this is what we are left with. bad statues, and so many sad memories
I'm gonna watch the new film and make up my own mind. I think with the really devout Amy fans like the ones who run Insta fan accounts etc, they act like they own the Amy experience. I've seen so many rants about how true fans wouldn't watch the film an I think that's a lot of self righteous bollox. I've read all the books by everyone from her ma to her mate, I'll watch any film/docu aswell.
I think with Mitch aswell these accounts need to lay off the finger pointing and blame game especially now so much time has passed. He lost a daughter, they just lost a fave artist. I think it's telling that Amy's mum doesn't at all beef about/with him or apportion blame. OK so these intense Amy accounts hate him- but she certainly didn't. They need to give their heads a wobble. Everyone's wiser after the fact and Mitch has publicly stated he'd have done many things differently if he'd have had his time over again. Amy was a complicated, headstrong addict and even her nearest and dearest had to distance themselves at times.
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I think with Mitch aswell these accounts need to lay off the finger pointing and blame game especially now so much time has passed. He lost a daughter, they just lost a fave artist. I think it's telling that Amy's mum doesn't at all beef about/with him or apportion blame. OK so these intense Amy accounts hate him- but she certainly didn't. They need to give their heads a wobble. Everyone's wiser after the fact and Mitch has publicly stated he'd have done many things differently if he'd have had his time over again. Amy was a complicated, headstrong addict and even her nearest and dearest had to distance themselves at times.
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Would recommend. He didn't answer her last call late the night b4 she was found dead god love him. Hope he doesn't torment himself over that. When she was pissed she'd phone everyone all night, he'd already left the house in Camden cos she was on a bender and gone to stay elsewhere. She could be an absolute nightmare by the sounds of it. She out and out attacked him sometimes too. Can 100% understand anyone pulling away from the circus. How long could her friends have had all that in their lives heading towards 30, maybe thinking of having kids etc?
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I think it’s clearly a good thing that we’ve become less tolerant of transphobia though! Not sure how being Jewish is problematic now either?
I think the posters point was that trans activists will find offence where none was intended. Amy's tounge in cheek lyrics, glorification of old London gangster aesthetics that enshrine strict gender roles and a traditional wife persona weren't at all woke. It's interesting to speculate where she'd have fitted in today, if she'd have grown out of that posturing etc. And posturing it was. It's easier to talk about dying for Mah Man than to be keeping the home fires burning when he's in nick, which she didn't do. Amy was a creation a bit like Marilyn imo. A buffer zone between the real person and the world. Missing out on the music of a mature older wiser Amy is a loss we can't fathom.
I see the statue of Amy Winehouse in Camden has had a Palestinian flag placed over her Star of David necklace, I can't link the article it's on the BBC website.
I'm not going to get into a discussion about the politics of that region as its way to complicated and most people really don't know as much as they think they do but that is a provocative act and unnecessary.
I'm not going to get into a discussion about the politics of that region as its way to complicated and most people really don't know as much as they think they do but that is a provocative act and unnecessary.
I am Jewish and know a lot about the politics (and knew Amy very slightly) but will also not get into it here. This was a truly disgusting act of pure racism. Amy was a proud British Jew and Londoner and this has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of legitimate political protest and everything to do with driving Jews out of every part of British life - cultural, social, artistic, academic.
I never thought I'd see a time like this in my lifetime. It breaks my heart, and to do this to Amy's statue just makes me so sick and angry.
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Guessing you're not Jewish if you don't understand how problematic it has become for us
Was it removed or has it just stayed there?
The best exhibition they did after Amy died was at the Jewish Center in Camden. I am so glad I was able to go see it. When I saw the big pic of her when you walk in, I cried.
The sticker has been removed
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It is very problematic and Amy was a down to earth North London girl and probably never gave the government of Israel a second thought, this is nothing to do with the war on gaza its a blatant hatred of Jews and no one can convince me otherwise.I am Jewish and know a lot about the politics (and knew Amy very slightly) but will also not get into it here. This was a truly disgusting act of pure racism. Amy was a proud British Jew and Londoner and this has absolutely nothing to do with any kind of legitimate political protest and everything to do with driving Jews out of every part of British life - cultural, social, artistic, academic.
I never thought I'd see a time like this in my lifetime. It breaks my heart, and to do this to Amy's statue just makes me so sick and angry.
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Guessing you're not Jewish if you don't understand how problematic it has become for us
That is disgusting.
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I've seen a bit of casual antisemitism in London over the last few months. The sad thing is that it's coming from teenagers.
It just shows you how an ideology can suck people in, the most depressing thing about this is when the young kids are questioned about what their marching about they can't answer, infact it's cringe to watch.
I wanted to say something about this but didn't want to barge in there with no skin in the game. Solidarity with you @VielleFemme and all jews being made to feel like barely tolerated guests in their own country. That the queen of the London music scene was a proud Jew should make you and yours proud. (Also we'd pretty please love to hear more about slightly knowing Amy if/when you feel safe to do so on here.
Do we perhaps also think that Amy would be labelled as bit of a 'pick me' girl if she was alive?
'I'm not really a girl. I'm not even a boy's girl. I'm a man's man - and that doesn't mean I'm a big dyke. Men are far more straightforward. They don't dwell on things and play psychological games. I'm not saying all women are like that, or that some men don't play those games, but on the whole men are more easy-going and don't piss time up the wall'