Just FYI the law about getting support due to "pattern of behavior" she was talking about is about cohabirating non-married couples, this assumption already exists for married couples and is covered over spousal support. That's why California makes spousal support depending on the marriage length.@Hiraeth , you have experience drafting prenups - is Alice's prenup 'full of holes' and open to challenge?
I can imagine Janina's strategy is going to be to 1. try to poke holes in the prenup 2. get lifetime spousal support due to long marriage 3. get additional support due to 'illness' and a previous pattern of behaviour of Ioan supporting her while she was 'bedbound'. 4. try to get around DVRO via 'mental breakdown'
I'll be waiting in the wings while Janina tries to get Alice to provide medical proof of her diagnoses and illnesses and mental breakdown............
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OMG that slipped under my radar I had to google it. But I’m relieved to say it’s not a GFM its just a way of giving cash gifts for a wedding and tbh I quite like it.Idk, I'm still side-eying that honeyfund to buy herself a house.
Obviously I'm doing this life thing wrong. If anyone here wants to chip in and buy me a house I won't say no.
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That is a good idea actually.OMG that slipped under my radar I had to google it. But I’m relieved to say it’s not a GFM its just a way of giving cash gifts for a wedding and tbh I quite like it.
I can’t imagine Alice has ever attended the Oscars, the ceremony of any of the after parties.The only "Oscars" Alice is ever going to attend ever again.
Alice could have the autoimmune disease I was just diagnosed with, because I certainly don't want it. I can not believe Alice lies about having diseases when she is obviously healthy as a horse. Someday she might actually get her wish and then she will really be upset.The policy holder may have to pay a deductible. But that ain’t Alice.
Don’t believe what she and kids describe as panic attacks meet the clinical definition. Panic Attacks are random and rarely triggered by a stressor.
Anxiety is caused by stressors. The biggest stressor in their lives is Alice who needs them anxious to control them.
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I think Alice intentionally lies and deceives people about illness to get her own way. I don’t think she meets the definition of hypochondria which is a real health anxiety. She is faking and lying that she has a real condition. Practically all the symptoms she reports are classic presentations. She is blatantly lying.
Alice hates therapy, she doesn't even want the girls to have therapy.Hypochondriacs are actually sick people. It’s an anxiety disorder and they actually think they are dying. They need medical help, just not the kind they think. So no. Don’t fine them. Provide them with the therapy they so desperately need.
That makes me wonder, did Gloria ever call 911 after getting off the phone with Ioan in Australia when Alice was supposedly lying on the kitchen floor not breathing? Did an ambulance take Alice to the hospital or did Alice just get off the kitchen floor and get another glass of wine.It's doubly infuriating if it did happen because she's put Ella in the position of making adult decisions regarding both her mother's health and the family finances. The thing with Alice is this story could be complete BS, partially true, mainly true or all true. But the reality is she would have no qualms about putting those sort of adult burdens on her 13 year old daughter.
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She always hides behind the kids. "The kid are unhappy" = I'm unhappy about not being able to squat forever in a house that I didn't pay for. 'put them in a flat' - that's what you did AFE - a huuuuge 3 bed apartment in BH that you can't afford for much longer. Such a whiny entitled Karen!
Does Janina realise yet that AFE will never produce evidence of her financials?
Wouldn't Alice have understood what she was signing, after all she is ‘the smartest one in the room’ after all, so she says.I think that prenup is quite watertight with all those signatures wouldn’t you?
Are lawyers able to call the previous lawyers to get the skinny on their new client?If Janina needs to get up to speed she should read the wiki here, because Alice will never tell her to truth, and will leave out all the unfavourable bits.
Wouldn't that be considered unethical?Are lawyers able to call the previous lawyers to get the skinny on their new client?
I also think she is doing this to waste even more of IG's money. Does she know it will come out of money that he owes her yet?
Depends what is divulged. If Bernal said "nightmare client, never stops calling but won't supply paperwork asked for" I doubt that is actionable as why should that be confidential?Wouldn't that be considered unethical?
Janina will probably know she is dealing with a high maintenance client and has bumped up her fees.would that even matter as long as they pay?
I can't catch up with this thread at all until later today, but the prenup is very solid and, while anything can be challenged in a divorce, any challenge is very likely to fail. I'll explain my reasoning later today!@Hiraeth , you have experience drafting prenups - is Alice's prenup 'full of holes' and open to challenge in your opinion?
I can imagine Janina's strategy is going to be to 1. try to poke holes in the prenup 2. get lifetime spousal support due to long marriage 3. get additional support due to 'illness' and a previous pattern of behaviour of Ioan supporting her while she was 'bedbound'. 4. try to get around DVRO via 'mental breakdown'
I'll be waiting in the wings while Janina tries to get Alice to provide medical proof of her diagnoses and illnesses and mental breakdown............
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Although I'm sure her previous lawyers would love to dish about their nightmare of a client, most everything except for general impressions is attorney-client privileged. An ethical attorney would avoid even discussing a previous client in general.Are lawyers able to call the previous lawyers to get the skinny on their new client?
I also think she is doing this to waste even more of IG's money. Does she know it will come out of money that he owes her yet?
Yeah. Janina would be able to look through the filings (same as we have) and see how many previous lawyers there have been. The filings paint a picture alright - her defence against the TRO was "whatever it was, I didn't do it". And her financial filing with $3k a month for utilities, 'childcare' for an unemployed actress etc.I'm sure her previous lawyers would love to dish about their nightmare of a client, most everything except for general impressions is attorney-client privileged. An ethical attorney would avoid even discussing a previous client in general.
she mentioned her on twitter, must have been around september 2021 (along with a mediator)Who was the lawyer before Leon? There's been so many that we need a dramatis personae.
Actually her defence against the TRO was "I lost my mind because my husband abandoned me and his children".her defence against the TRO was "whatever it was, I didn't do it".
Ahhh man, does this mean there’s no secret lawyers-only review site? Like Tripadvisor for clients?Although I'm sure her previous lawyers would love to dish about their nightmare of a client, most everything except for general impressions is attorney-client privileged. An ethical attorney would avoid even discussing a previous client in general.
There was a filing were she said "whatever it was, I didn't do it" and that she hadn't read the TRO.Actually her defence against the TRO was "I lost my mind because my husband abandoned me and his children".
She will never give up twitter. It's like crack to her.Alice's alt is still alive and kicking - still private tho
Yes, I remember that!There was a filing were she said "whatever it was, I didn't do it" and that she hadn't read the TRO.
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