Blueblue123

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I just thought maybe there was so much ~something~ (testosterone, adrenaline, I don't know) going through his body that when it came to those specific events, he maybe wasn't aware.
I believe RB did know especially because he text one victim apologising but I kind of see where you're coming from.

This is why it's been annoying me that people centre the conversation of rape allegations around how it destroys the life of a man. Because all people care about is how bad it must be for a man to be accused but they don't examine the behaviour that led to that.

So it means some men genuinely don't learn when behaviour has gone too far.

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I had to educate my ex that he had sex with me against my will. I thought it was pretty obvious, I said no I wasn't in the mood, let's watch TV instead, refused to go up to his room (he ended up carrying me up the stairs), every piece of clothing he tried to remove I put back on, I think I may have even had my hands covering my groin at one point. The way you do when you're desperate for a wee.

But because we were dating, had sex before and I wasn't in any distress he thought I was "playing hard to get".

When I told him what he did, he seemed more disturbed at what I was accusing him of rather than how it made me feel.

Years later he got in touch to apologise again and said he wished he redo us having sex, except this time it would be consensual. No... I meant what I said about not wanting sex. He should have been wishing to relive that day but instead, actually listen to what I was saying.
 
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F1Grid

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I find it fascinating that Channel 4 are airing something that airs them out. If it's purely to take down a rapist then fair enough, but I can't help but feel this isn't 100% due to that.

Russell Brand's a nonce either way.
 
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Copacapybara

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In 12 step recovery programs, for your “Step 4” you have to write out all the resentments you’re still holding on to from your life (ie my Dad said xxx when I was 14 etc).

One of his was a resentment towards his mum for getting cancer during his childhood. Ie he hated her for getting cancer as it took the attention off him. He said this openly in his book - you can look it up. He acknowledged himself that this thought was crazy… but wow, just the fact he had that thought really speaks volumes about the level of ego and narcissism at play.

It’s worth noting as well that he mentioned his Dad taking him to Thailand (?) when he was young (12-14) and forcing him to sleep with sex workers. And he was the victim of sexual abuse as a child under the age 10 at the hands of a male family friend. Victims aren’t destined to go on to become perpetrators themselves, but the fact he was exposed to so much over-sexualisation from a young age might explain his attitude to sex in later life.
It’s interesting as a common theme seems to be women as objects to serve his needs. His mother was resented because she couldn’t dispense attention, and the sex workers treated as disposable commercial objects. I definitely also agree his father sounded incredibly damaging.
 
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Silverspin

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We can’t let this deflection happen where the blame gets passed to his dad and Brand’s former employers though.
Yeah absolutely not and I regret giving the impression at all actually.
The dad sexualising his own kid makes me want the police watching Brand's father as closely as they are now Russell no doubt.
it sickens me as a father of 3 to see people planting the seeds to make more legions of degenerates instead of guiding their children.
 
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String Man

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I really don't know what he was thinking there.

"Hmm, I'm going to pose in front of a beautifully ornate door - what should I wear to look equally exotic? I know ... Y fronts and some surgical stockings"
 
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BambiK

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I have a mutual friend with Brand's dad on Facebook and weirdly he's denying he hired a prostitute for RB.
 
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trashfire

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I think it's power, of literally any kind. Fame is sort of a twofer: financial power and social status power.

Maybe we need to grow up as a species and stop with this celebrity shit altogether.
 
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shellie

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Vile. But not surprising.
True. It would be more of a shock if he did do it for no reason other than to help.
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I hope so.

The Times spoke to about 20 women when they first tried to expose Russell about ten years ago. What we heard with the latest expose is very much the tip of the iceberg, as I've said before.
That's why I disagree with those who say the person should only be named if they are charged. Singer, Spacey, Masterson and Weinstein among others would still be getting away with their shit if one person hadn't had the guts to come forward and named them publicly, giving others the confidence to do the same. I know Weinstein & Masterson are the only ones who are actually paying for what they did but at least it's common knowledge about the others now.
 
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lookatmekimmy

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There is nothing weird about women being suspicious of men. Men commit 98% of sexual offences and the vast majority of violent offences. Women are most at risk from the men we live with. One in four women is a victim of rape. Only one in a hundred rapes reported to the police results in a conviction. And if you report and if you get a conviction, you still aren’t always believed.

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Men need to ask themselves what they can do to stop rape culture. Brand was enabled and protected in large part by other men. Men need to stand up against misogyny.
If women keep screaming at men to ‘stand up against misogyny and ask what you can do to stop rape culture’ this ain’t going to get them to do that. It’s hysterical (and that’s understandable because this pushes all our buttons) but they will close their ears to it.
 
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ipiraka

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Not a fan of him, and if he has done what he’s accused he deserved the criticism

but..

its interesting how they’re blowing up the exposé as they are, perhaps to make an example out of him considering how much he’s pissed off the establishment.
 
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BabeTakeTwo

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I only remember him from Big Brother bit on the Side, and the sad situation with JR/Andrew Sachs phone call.

I was an avid BB watcher - I rarely watched a full programme of the Bit on the Side as I couldn't cope with RB. I think anyone could see, although funny (in part) he was manic.

I'd read he was a addict, or recovering one - apart from the KP marriage, I haven't watched out for him.

The Ladies that now feel they can confront him and their past - I hope they find their peace/justice. Although, if as quoted in the media it was known in work circles/comedy circuit about his behaviour, maybe in the past there hasn't been enough to fully investigate - possibly another woman making allegations has tipped the balance. Whatever has happened, RB surely must have known that the current climate of "honesty/transparency", the past was always going to catch up with him.

To read the online news/and here, I'm not surprised at all of what I have read - whatever he got up to in the past was absolutely known about and he was able to go about his life as he wished. In light of recent times re Schofe, Huw et al, anything histrionic coming to light is being investigated. Not dissimilar to the Met and them weedling out their "bad'uns".

Sadly those times when RB was a rising star it would have been "who you knew", slaps on the back, brushed under the carpet - in 2023 (thank god) things are changing. Hopefully this attitude to using, abusing, and mental anxiety will stop - this culture is old and archaic - barbaric even!

There should be a full investigation on his past, and he should face any criminal charges brought against him, should that be founded to be so.

Personally, I think just watching him back in the 90's/00's any woman with an once of savvy would have swerved out of his way - he was clearly unpleasant (imo) and his Karma is coming to bite his butt.

The "consensual sex" is the same as Schofe and his "unwise but not illegal" quote - they think it's a Get Out of Prison card.... RB needs to attone for his past behaviour, whatever that includes - there must be many others in the public eye wetting themselves, will they be next?

Be good, and you'll have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately these "Stars" were made to feel like God's - they could do no wrong, no retribution to their behaviour, and now they are finding otherwise.

Sorry for long one - in essence I can't say I'm surprised, something was always "off" about RB. Creepy, sly even.... Certainly set my radar off.
 
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Warriorqueen

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Is anyone else feeling so angry/emotional about all of this? I’ve just lost my shit in RL talking about this. People need to wake up ffs.
 
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Ndrangheta

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again, though this is a thread about a man and the various terrible acts he has committed so i think it’s time to park the “did fearne know” conversation. it isn’t relevant here. even though it does prove some pretty depressing points about society’s general views of women.
Forgive me if I have this wrong, but I read here earlier that Fearne unfollowed Brand on Social Media and now Follows him again, that makes her fair game to be discussed I think. But I won't flog a dead horse, I just wanted to say that she spent a hell of lot of time banging-on about wellbeing etc. so I don't get how associating with Brand is good for anyone's 'wellbeing'. Further to that, she specifically mused on the evils of mobile phone use and how it's a good idea to 'give it a break' for the sake of your 'mental health', yada, yada, yada only to then sign a big money deal to be the voice of Tesco Mobile. I've no time for her, sorry. Ok, I won't mention her again. :cool:
 
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neroli

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He used to talk about the "selection process" for after show "experiences" at his gigs. Never hid this. At one point his minder used to pick out the chosen ones by their seat numbers.
 
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Greatbutton

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So according to Twitter:

Five women accusing RB can't be believed becaude they haven't gone to the police about it and its all conspiracy as he is speaking out against mainstream media.

Prince Andrew who was friends with someone who was later found to be a paedophile and has been accused by one women is definately a "nonce"

Remember Jimmy Saville was never convicted of any crimes either.

Didn't the Harvey Weinstein stuff all get reported in the media before he was convicted?
Not just according to twitter, according to quite a few people in here too. I asked them about Jimmy Savile and weirdly enough they ignored that question.
 
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