jackolantern

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The NHS being ‘free’ and not to be criticised is a significant part of why it’s in such a fucking mess. You have to stop standing and accepting abysmal standards for to push for change. There being good staff among the bad doesn’t change that.

Its also very, very much not free and what’s happening to Monique is unforgivable. She is dying and has no spare second left to waste on being treated like this.
 
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vix68

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I’ve had to have a little chuckle to myself. There’s us - her “trolls” getting all melancholy and down coz she looks so ill and about to pop her clogs and up pops another ad with her looking super stunning again 😱🤣🤣😂. She never lets us down our Debs. I feel quite relieved to see her again, even the ad didn’t annoy me too much 😃.
 
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gummy-bear

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She’s so fucking entitled. Feels no guilt wandering round harrods and getting her nails done but is enraged not to be top of the lateral flow queue. You can’t have it both ways.
 
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Allmyownopinion

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It’s just like another rich celeb I saw on TV this morning (Julia Bradbury I think her name is) thankfully she’s making a full recover from breast cancer, but she’s talking how she’s now having additional tests on hormones, tests to find out risks of reoccurrence & getting ahead of it etc to ensure she lives a long & healthy life. All fabulous stuff that just isn’t accessible to the general population when we’re struggling to pay our bills! Its a complete luxury & it shouldn’t be! It’s so tragic that there’s such inequality in healthcare & if you live or die depends on how much spare cash you have 🥺
 
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I don't think it's positive at all tbh. She is probably discharged because there's not a lot that they can do for her which is tragic.

Also I wonder if her bf is paid to be her bf? Because the vibe of their relationship is weird for me. Maybe he's her carer?
Seriously?! She is a beautiful, articulate lady, why on earth would she need to pay someone to be her boyfriend? What a bizarre comment. I’m not sure what sort of “vibe” you are getting from the brief insights she shows on her Insta but I can’t say I’ve ever had that feeling. 🤷‍♀️
 
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Pass_the_popcorn

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I’d be so embarrassed to be sitting there, videoing myself, putting on makeup (badly) whilst someone makes my bed for me. Cancer or not, she’s one entitled arsehole!
 
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Ellyjelly

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I just can’t help feeling for Bowelgran, whatever our opinions of her, Deborah is her child, doesn’t matter that she’s forty. You would give every material thing you owned to change places with your child in that situation.
 
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ordinaryjelly

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I hope you are able to get visitors at the moment ❤

Edit (if you want them x)
Thank you. I am fortunate that the NHS/local authority moved me to a private neuro rehab hospital in October. So while hospital is never ideal I am at least here, it is very small and they have always allowed visitors, we are free from any nhs red tape. My children, husband, parents visit as often as they can.
 
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LittleMissRuby

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The transition from glam eating in The Ivy to tube-feeding in the Marsden was quite dramatic.
Because its bullshit. There are 2 sides to this story. Either she isnt as ill as she's making out and wants to keep up the dramatic pretence (all these procedures she keeps mentioning are basic nursing care I.e. removing drains....not big ops like she makes out) OR she is incredibly ill, but wants to go out with a BANG. Wants the world to wake up to the traumatic news of her passing without us 'being aware' she was at deaths door.
Points aside, bowelgran has a drink problem. I love a glass of wine, but honestly, she cant get thru a lunch or a hospital visit without a glass of wine? What?
 
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OliviaL

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Private or NHS is irrelevant really. I think the biggest beef people have with her is the incessant showing off, preening, boasting and flogging of tat.
 
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GossipBlue

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Cancer puts massive strain on the best of relationships. It did on mine and we were very strong and happy pre diagnosis. Your relationship changes. It can’t not do. For me, I didn’t feel like a woman when I lost my hair and therefore our sex life suffered which in turn leads to a lack of intimacy. But my hubby was amazing and supportive even when I didn’t appreciate it because I was a little grumpy during chemo 🙈 True love is sticking around for the shitty times too. Which Monique’s boyfriend has done because he loves her. It must be heartbreaking for him too.
 
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petitspois

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I don't think it's positive at all tbh. She is probably discharged because there's not a lot that they can do for her which is tragic.

Also I wonder if her bf is paid to be her bf? Because the vibe of their relationship is weird for me. Maybe he's her carer?
What an odd thing to say! Paid to be her boyfriend.
 
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Mumof3

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So glad someone started this thread. Cancer does not give you a get out of jail card to avoid criticism (and I had it at 30 now have it terminal at 42 - different cancer mind). I don't know if she cares about being relatable, but she's meant to be fighting the good fight for people with stage 4 cancer yet doesn't acknowledge the fact that her experience of cancer is DRAMATICALLY different to the vast majority of crap normal NHS experiences. And instead flaunts and flaunts this discrepancy. Ooooh Dior, ooooh Wimbledon, oooooooh the housekeeper. I couldn't afford to pay for anything beyond what the NHS offered so am on my last treatment line now. I also can't afford to holiday in my luxury home in France once a year, so my last view will be a grotty, rainy British one. Am I jealous, absolutely!! But mainly because this was being shoved in my face as a 'normal cancer fight' and 'for the people'. And if you flaunt your infinitely more privileged cancer existance while pretending you are fighting the good fight for the masses then you are pretty morally represensible. And watching a privileged wife of a banker taking and taking and taking brand freebies that she could so easily afford galls. Especially when you are living on the breadline and slowly dying. But thanks for rubbing it in
and making me feel even worse about my (limited) existence and what is likely to be my pathetic, non Emma mattress death Deborah. Ironically, I have no real hard feelings towards this woman. Just sadness really. I don't know why people would want to rub this inequality in people's faces - you're meant to be on our side!?

*morally reprehensible

And I want to add to the above that I am in NO WAY trying to be nasty. I just wish these influencers would think about what they are doing beyond making a bit of extra cash. While they are no doubt helping some people, they're making others feel so much worse.
Your post is so spot on. I just wanted to send my love to you, I can’t begin to imagine how hard things must be for you xx
 
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LittleMissRuby

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In my opinion her motivation for the ads is fame. She is an extrovert and egotist and (like all major influencers) once given a platform to perform on it becomes addictive. Plus all the messages she gets give her validation

Make no mistake she is a seasoned professional. The silence followed by an update showing her current life and then when she has our attention wham bam an advert.

Bowelgran has just posted a second teaser about her exciting photoshoot with a promise of a reveal shortly. This belies the images portrayed yesterday of her worsening condition and Bowelgran moving into be with her. They both play the game and in my opinion ill or not are fair game for criticism. She is monetising her cancer which is a kick in the teeth for others who suffer without her privilege
WELL DONE for having the balls to say what the majority of us think
 
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90sGal

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For those that say this thread goes too far, what are you aiming to do?

Change people's opinions?
Get the thread closed?

The sensitive side of this is because Deborah does have limited time. Cancer is an emotional topic and touches so many of us.

However alongside the cancer is a human. Who makes choices and those are what are being debated here.

I see very very few personal comments on here about her appearance. If that is what you are focusing on then that is probably 1%.

Other threads in tattle are so much worse and more personal.

If there are some comments you think break rules you need to report them.

If you are unhappy with the 99% discussion then you are in the wrong place.

I'm no fan of the Bowel babe and so I wouldn't take my opinion over to IG and discuss it there.

Its choice. Don't read if it annoys you, that is unless absolutely read and report anything that breaks the boundaries of this site.

It's right to reflect though on it but don't get focused on monitory comments that cloud the majority of the discussion.
 
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