SmallC

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Thank you to those who sent good wishes my way and those who had my back, appreciated thank you.
Just to clarify I do not hate bb at all I just find her whole coping mechanism a bit odd. I work for the NHS and have seen many patients I'm the chemo suite and I can honestly say I've never seen anyone dancing in there. I don't understand her at all if I'm honest but I'm not comparing myself to her, I just can't understand how one minute she's having an op and the next day she's dancing.
I'm not jealous, why would I be? I don't give a flying fart if she has money but I think her flaunting her freebies about will make other people with ill health feel like crap, like they don't matter. Am I sorry she's so poorly..yes. do I think she's raising awareness...no. she's just interested in fame now.
I feel sorry for her kids, when they get older will they love seeing Mum parading about on insta for freebies instead of spending her last times with them?
I've unfollowed her now.
 
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Cariad

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I'm a nurse, I've worked for the NHS since 2006. I always championed the NHS, was its biggest fan. They failed my mum terribly, and (sorry if this upsets anyone) the way they ditched EVERYONE in the beginning of the pandemic was sickening. Yes we didn't know how covid would pan out, but every other illness was pushed aside to make way for covid. I'll never forgive the NHS for becoming what it is. My friend who has no qualifications earns more in a band 7 office job, than me who went to uni for 4+ years to become a specialist nurse. Shat upon from the top, as always.
I've been a nurse for 35 years ( specialist nurse for the past 17 and have 2 degrees) ...yet my 22 year old son who graduated last year with a degree in environmental Science is now earning more than me as a trainee data analyst with a global bank ....( start salary of £40k & £5k welcome !)
I feel extremely undervalued and can't wait to retire! Wish I'd listened to my dad when I went to Uni and done Law or accountancy instead!
I have a chronic life limiting disease not all life limiting diseases are cancer! and my life has been on hold since the pandemic and I feel like a pariah...still waiting on investigations 2 years later , but I'm still working
 
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Hangoninthere

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Personally I think patients should have an option of online diagnosis especially where they are tech savvy and it is a minor illness. Used it 2x successfully with the GP. I would like a hybrid where I can do online if I feel its better for me. Good could come from this in the reduction of timewasting/missed appointments. Just my view as a doctor avoider❤
 
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betseyc

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Tagging in Sajid Javid screams of “Do you know who I am?!!!!” Surprised she hasn’t called her consultant to ask them for some and will no doubt be slagging off the NHS to say how they need to sort this out. I’m also not a troll but just so fed up of her conceitedness.
 
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Rekyavikgirl

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It is so sad. It's about now that you'd have a discussion about upping the painkillers, sedatives and anti-sickness drugs so the patient can sleep away their last few days if they are in a lot of pain and discomfort and cannot eat. But Monique is so young and vital, that it seems harder to contemplate this because she clearly wants to remain alert so she can be fully present with her loved ones. My beloved friend asked to be 'snowed' because she couldn't stand it any longer. So the hospice staff helped ease her passage within the law.
 
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LittleMissRuby

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I'm sorry there are so many bad stories about nurses on here 😔 I'm a nurse and I truly believe I give to the best of my ability. I'm not defending lazy behaviour because we all know it happens, there are good and bad colleagues in every work place. But don't forget behind the scenes, we have our own battles too. You might not see that I've seen 20 people in a row at work, without so much as a drink, lunch or a wee in thr middle. People probably see me walking from treatment room to treatment room and wondering whats taking me so long to get to them. So, please be kind, it's not all nurses 💜
 
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gummy-bear

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I think when it comes to end of life care it is hard to know what you would do if you where in her shoes.
Im a stage 4 patient, recieving palliative chemotherapy on the NHS. I know I wont have as many "options" as BB but I had a good chat with my oncologist and we agreed that as long as my quality of life is good we would try everything we possibly can. I know my life will be cut short and I won't kive to see my little girl grow into a beautiful woman but I'll damn make sure I try everything to have quality time with her.
If I had BB's money I honestly think I would keep going if they let me do so.
It is difficult, really difficult.
I agree with what a lot of you are saying, that it doesn't seem like she has any quality of life but I can see why she won't give up.
I think to BB doing her make up, going to harrods etc etc is deemed having a good quality of life as it is something she couldn't do weeks ago however to most of is a good quality of life is spending it with our loved ones!
My point is palliative care is difficult to navigate, it is a difficult position to be in and when you have defied the odds so many times you may naturally want to continue to do that.
First of all I wanted to say thank you for this honest post. It’s really interesting to hear from people who are in a similar (albeit not the same) situation as her.
I’ve never heard of palliative chemo- I know this is sensitive so please do not feel like you have to answer but I’d love to know more about this. In my mind chemo is preventative so I’d be interested to know more.
I’d just also like to let you know that my boyfriend lost his mum when he was 4. She thought he wouldn’t remember her but he does. She left him lots of beautiful things which now live in our house. We have a card she wrote to him framed which now is in our study. It means a lot to us both ❤ I’m sorry for the situation you are in and wish you lots of wonderful memories with your daughterxx
 
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90sGal

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And just posted being out for lunch.

She has lost any credibility.

She is a spoilt child who has money she can flounce around with ensuring she gets what she wants and when she wants.

Awful character.

What's important in life Debs? Shocking behaviour.

A few hours moaning about getting covid tests....for what? You are not taking care at all whilst saying you are clinically vulnerable.

We got vaccinated for the vulnerable didn't we. Well it's a bitter pill to swallow knowing she has no respect.
 
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jackolantern

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I guess it depends how you measure success. Is success buying/hoarding lots of shit you don't need just to cope? I'm not sure. Also, she's bought her 5 years, that doesn't make her personally successful, it just makes her wealthy and lucky. It's a bit insulting to all the cancer patients who can't do the same tbh, are they not successful? I'm glad she's had the extra time but I don't think it's a direct result of her capabilities as a human (other than arguably her willpower for sure).
 
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Maggidimps

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Whilst I'm not a huge fan of Bowel babe I do feel for her and her family. She has reached the end of her life, her latest procedures to insert liver ducts etc show that the liver is failing, She has asked to be considered for trials, which are usually final chances, but with such liver problems it would be doubtful if she will get a trial. Her tummy is constantly bulging which again is evidence the liver is struggling. Yes she can be damed annoying with her dancing and constant selling but if it takes her mind to another place, it's probably her way of coping. As a bowel cancer survivor myself I know exactly what she's going through, so just give her a break I'm sure none of you would want to be in her position today x
 
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Brummiebird

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I’m calling bullshit on the whole thing, there I’ve said it.

And as a side note, all those poor individuals who have had DNRs pushed on them by the NHS, wouldn’t they have loved to be like Deborah and have a team available to help survive a medical emergency that many don’t survive from.
All those interventions, the blood transfusions, the available theatre slots, the staff who turn up so quickly. If only the NHS had that available for all other stage 4 cancer patients (or even any other patient!)
 
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Cariad

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I find it so distasteful that a terminally ill woman is advertising skin care and that a company would ok such an advert
The oncology unit I've worked in actively uses aromatherapy for both in patients ( during treatment and at end of life) and within the oncology day unit especially good for those who suffer with anticipatory nausea linked to their chemotherapy
So much good could have been done by Deborah suggesting that there are services available using aromatherapy or indeed these products rather than an incredibly frail woman trying to persuade her followers that they need to buy them ....just what's the point in all this now....I'm sorry but I think it's macabre ( and that filter she's using doesn't fool anyone)
 
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MegSmeg92

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I feel terribly sad to read that, but her legacy will be amazing from this. I am bowing out from here now as this is so close to home and hurts too much x
 
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LittleMissRuby

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The purple box is just a box full of medication kept in the patients home for medication as and when they need it. Here we call it a 'just in case' Box. Because accessing controlled drugs (morphine) over a weekend and evenings is super difficult, so helps them being there when needed.
With regards to end of life medication, there is a term called 'doctrine of double effect'. Put simply, you may give a dose of medication that is perfectly reasonable (I.e not a lethal dose) However, as a professional you realise that giving that drug has the potential to end that person's life (by suppressing their breathing further for example). Hyoscine, which dries up secretions, is a perfect example. It gets rid of that horrible death rattle, but will likely hasten the patients death. When the nurse called the night my mum died to say she'd needed hyoscine, I knew we needed to get there quickly. She died a very short time after. Mum was a district nurse back in her day, her and I had very Frank discussions in the days leading up to her death and we completely followed her lead. Death can be done so 'well'
 
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BB & M have done well to beat the odds for so long regardless of how ill they currently are. One of my work colleagues’ brother was told yesterday he has terminal stage 4 bile duct cancer which has spread & although they’ll offer him chemo the odds are it won’t do much as he’s in liver failure with significant ascites & he should prepare himself, he’s 49 & diagnosed 8 weeks ago. Sadly they don’t pull out all the stops for everyone. Cancer is just the worst.
 
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Cariad

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I also don't believe the 5 surgeries in a week! It's impossible! Unless she was bleeding internally for each one I can't see a surgeon performing that many especially when her body will be classed as weaker than others! Surgeons won't even operate on me to remove cancer because they fee where it is may annoy it and cause cells to aggress and I only have a 1.8 cm tumour in my lung !
I thinks she's being rather sensational calling it "surgery", when in all probability she's had 'procedures' for stent insertion ( to drain gall bladder, where tumour has encased it) and maybe endoscopy to see extent of 'blockage' / cauterise any bleeding , or a a colonoscopy to insert bowel stent to ease any obstruction
-just my 20 years experience of caring with metastatic patients
 
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fusspot

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Monique’s latest post shines a light on what cancer care under the NHS is really like. No shade thrown by her at all - she’s a lovely lovely girl.
But what she details is all too common in the cases of seriously or terminally Ill patients under NHS care.
Hopefully she can get home today ❤
 
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Bristolgirl

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:rolleyes: And NickNacklou is wingeing on about getting a letter from her hospital when she applied for disabled seats in her flight to Jamaica. Funny how she prances, goes on a cross trainer, does yoga etc, yet needs preferential seating on a plane. Monique’s story is a tough read today and she could wipe the floor with BB and NNL with honesty, realism and heart.
 
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I agree. Particularly the "prayers you will recover soon" or "you can fight this!". I respect everyone's right to faith, but faith doesn't trump the fact she is dying, nor is it a 'battle' you can win if you try hard enough. It's deeply deluded and insulting to people who have lost their lives, as if somehow, they weren't strong enough. It's this Western bury your head in the sand attitude again. It's not healthy.
I hate the term ‘lost their fight.’ It’s so insulting.
 
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