Your opinions on cannabis/weed?

[Lardoflife]

My neighbour would smoke £100 of it a week if not more, was borrowing more off his dealer etc than he could pay for. He tried intimidating me and my mum to give him money for weed and when we refused he got violent and extremely aggressive. This is a man in his 60's... so personally, I don't think it's as harmless as some think. He was a horrible man anyway but a helluva lot worse when he couldn't get any weed.

 

[sourlemon]

I don’t like the smell and was rather judgemental about it, however my sister (she doesn’t mind me sharing) has MS and has been prescribed it for medical reasons and it’s changed her life, she’s able to get up, go out and do things when she couldn’t and can now manage her pain she has it in oil form and thankfully it doesn’t stink everywhere out.

 

[Lucyxxxx]

That's how I feel about alcohol ^^

It makes my insides cringe when I hear fully grown adults all excited 'to go on the piss'

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Light me up baybayyyyy!!!!!!!

 

[sourlemon]

Just wanted to add to this, on behalf of my sister who I mentioned on this thread previously, as this is something we discuss often to be honest. I texted her asking what she thinks people should know etc.

There are a number of private clinics who are prescribing it medically, you have to contact them, have a consult and then contact your GP to get permission. There’s 3 clinics that are the “better ones” with a verity of strains etc, it takes a while to figure out what you need, and the only choices on how you use it is, vaping or oil.
I chose oil and at first I had 2 bottles one which contained CBD only and the other THC, I could try cbd during the day then thc at night, I have to say also they are very strict on monitoring (which is understandable you have appointments you must attend or they can withdraw you, it’s one time after 1 month and every 3 months after but also filling in assessments every month which only take 5 minutes)
. I knew it was working for me but I was struggling with my MS and felt it difficult to handle opening two bottles, I was switched to an all in one bottle which is perfect for me, and a slightly different strain.
The oil is better for those who have a constant pain, and the vaping is good for those who need something to work quick. Also the dosage for oils is 0.05mg until you find a dose which works for you, I don’t get high from it, it doesn’t stink out my home or me even.

I had never tried any form of drugs apart from, prescribed morphine, codine, pregablin etc but they were making me very unwell. I highly recommend anyone to check if they are eligible and as an alternative to opioids.


and I just wanted to add, my sister had just started using a wheelchair to get around however at the weekend we went to a convention and she walked the whole time and felt fine it’s changed her and our family life for the better. Happy To answer any questions anytime.

I think if it was legal for Rec use it wouldn’t be hyped for long, I’m all for medical but I don’t wanna be around people that just stink of it, it makes my stomach turn. The only upside for rec use I guess is that it would possibly be much safer than getting it from randoms that could have it laced with other stuff.
wow this is long sorry about that, you definitely deserve a biscuit if you’ve read all that.

 

[PineappleQueen19]

There is also the question of how it is produced - here in the UK it is mostly produced by trafficked children under horrific conditions of slavery

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Both Bao’s parents, fishermen in a rural part of Vietnam, were killed in a car crash when he was a baby, leaving him to be brought up by his grandparents, who lived in a wooden shack by a river. By the time he was 10, both of them had died, and he was living on the streets of a city in Vietnam, selling lottery tickets to feed himself.

When he was about 14, he was kidnapped by two men while he slept under the bridge; he was bound and gagged using duct tape, put into a sack and then into the boot of a car. Some time later, he was taken to China, where for several months he worked and slept in a warehouse, packaging saucepans. He was malnourished and beaten if he made the mistake of speaking while working. Later again, a group of young workers were taken and put into a cold shipping container, given a bag of bread and a bottle of water each, and kept there for around three months, while the ship travelled to a country that might have been France. He was later driven to the UK, smuggled above the wheels of a lorry.
The truck stopped in a forest in the UK, where he was shuffled into another vehicle and taken to a house. He was kept there for 10 months and forced into sex work. Then, for reasons that are no clearer to him than any of the other abrupt changes, he was driven to a house somewhere quiet, left alone and told to tend to the plants.

Living in a flat that has been converted into a cannabis farm is fraught with danger. “Above my head there were wires hanging down,” Bao says, “and I had to be careful to make sure the duvet didn’t catch fire. There were wires everywhere, powering all the electricity to the room. I had to step around them when I was watering, and they were hung quite low – so if I wasn’t careful, it would burn my hair. That happened quite a few times. Sometimes, I would brush past the lights and singe my hands and arms. I found it tiring. There were so many plants to look after, and the flat was very squashed.”

Bao was under strict instructions not to answer the door to anyone, so when police knocked five months after he had arrived at the flat, he did not answer; instead, they knocked the door down. He tried to hide beneath the cannabis plants that had flourished under his care and grown to waist height. But the police found him and bombarded him with questions, which, not speaking a word of English, he didn’t understand. He was handcuffed, taken away and held in police custody overnight. A solicitor was found, who advised him to plead guilty to cannabis cultivation, regardless of the fact that he was clearly a child and had been trafficked.

In the most outlandish discovery to date, police last month found three teenage boys from Vietnam working in a former nuclear bunker in Wiltshire, living in a subterranean warren of 40 rooms built in the 1980s to accommodate government officials in the event of nuclear attack. The boys are said to have been held behind a five-inch-thick metal door, with no access to daylight or fresh air, instructed to look after thousands of plants growing in 20 rooms.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...eenagers-tending-uk-cannabis-farms-vietnamese

 

[No style rocky]

My dad is an ex police officer, he says he’d legalise every drug except cannabis. My experience of it was tried it in my teens wasn’t fussed about it and preferred to spend my money on clothes and clubbing. A friend of mine had bi-polar (this was over 20 years ago so now wonder if it was actually misdiagnosed border line personality disorder) and smoked it heavily causing her to be sectioned twice. People smoke it so blatantly now and it stinks. I work in a community clinic which has a park next door. In the summer lots of people smoke in the park causing our waiting room to stink, the smells so strong you could chew on it

 

[JSK90]

I think if it was legalised and the production of it was controlled so that there were no harmful substances in it, it would not be a problem to society. I smoked weed as a teen socially and then every day from being 21 until I was 30 and then I quit cold turkey. I never had a problem with it, I held down 2 jobs - one full time and one part time. I was always motivated and did what needed to be done and then some. I don't drink and I found weed was my release. In the past few months, I have been having some relationship issues and I have smoked the odd one here and there and I feel like it just helps me take the edge off the stress in my life.

I know not everyone has good experiences with it, but it's the same for every drug - legal or not.

 

[Lynseyp]

I have fallen out with a family member due to Weed. My niece's was smoking it and dealing it at a my niece's 21st party we was all attending.
At least 3 of us clocked him dealing it but he swore blind he didn't. My niece has taken her bf's side even though she's fully aware of it. Its been a year now and we don't speak and not likely too.
Another story is my relatives work colleague is high on the stuff, her and her boyfriend have got into huge amounts of debt due to smoking Weed and they still wont stop. They say it calms them down. You can tell when they haven't had their daily dose of it as they are incredibly moody.

I have and always will be anti drugs.

 

[Laur91]

I don't know if anyone saw the recent 24 hours in police custody but the young guy was murdered by his 2 friends because he was in a group dealing weed. I'm not saying the guy who was murdered was totally innocent as he too was dealing weed and carried a gun on him which was found near his body at the scene, but now 3 people's lives are wasted. They were making 2k a weed selling weed!

i watched that and he was definitely selling more than weed to be making 2k a week - his girlfriend also mentioned MDMA. I think those ‘friends’ of his were just very jealous of his money and they wanted it for themselves. That show is almost another reason why marijuana should be legalised and goverened properly, then boys wouldn’t be killing each other over it in the park.

 

[mochibean]

I’m not into it myself and it’s about 20 years since I was in uni and occasionally trying it but I’m 100% in favour of legalisation. If people want it, they’ll get it , why deny the people that would never illegally get it but could really benefit from it for MS etc

^ This so much. I'm pretty sure you can already get cannabis on prescription in the UK but it's pretty rare and apparently the quality isn't fantastic. (so I've heard idk for sure) Cannabis can improve symptoms in many conditions and I think proper legislation would benefit so many people, and tbh if it was legal I think that'd turn off a lot of the appeal towards it, especially from young people because it'd be easier to obtain without the risky element of being illegal.

I don't think people should be going to jail over cannabis, other drugs sure, but it'd take a lot of pressure off our legal system if cannabis was legalised.

 

[Lardoflife]

I am somebody who has sadly seen a bad side of it. My brother began smoking it around age 13. His personality changed, he became argumentative, aggressive, and would steal from me and other family members. He is now mid twenties, still living at home, wastes all of his money on drugs. Has many pay day loans (I’m assuming to fund his habits). He is employed by my mums business and many times should have lost his job but my mum covers for him. He smokes it constantly, we were round for dinner on Sunday and went outside three times, came back in stinking of weed each time, trying to pick my baby up. It’s getting to the point where I feel I don’t want my three young children around him, I worry about the effects of the second hand smoke on my children’s immature brains and their development. I’ve avoided confronting it, my parents pretend they don’t notice it and give me a blank look when I bring it up, but I think I’m going to have to tell them straight soon. I don’t want to fall out with them over it but my children are my priority, I’d be interested to know whether you all think I am overreacting? Or am I within my rights to have a problem with it?

I'd say you're within your rights. With regards to your brother, he's their child and it's their choice to ignore it, just as much as it's your choice not to do so when it could effect your young ones. You can only do what you feel is best for your kids.

I'd always go on the side of caution where kids are involved, especially since you said your brother can be aggressive. Is that really someone you'd feel comfortable being around your children if he wasn't so closely related to you? It's probably an easier conversation to have sooner rather than later as well I'd think?

 

[JellyWobbles]

I hate it.
Don’t get me wrong it obviously helps on some medical grounds and for this I 100% agree that it should be a viable and controlled option (research, monitored etc). Recreationally, not a fan. My BIL is a heavy user and I’ve seen the affect it has had as in, he seems slower response etc generally as time has gone on. Like I can physically see the affect it’s had over the years. Another close family member smokes it heavily, is paranoid, deals, and has branched onto heavier crap. I’m anti drugs, I did weed as a teen ocassionally until once I had a stronger strain which actually scared the sh!t out of me it wasn’t even like a high it was utterly vile. With all the different strains out there it’s just something I wouldn’t mess with. Yes it’s a PlAnT but that doesn’t make it harmless.

 

[PoleStar]

It didn't make it clear on the programme but the judge (and he's the only one that matters) determined that Sam was murdered because he'd become a liability and also for financial gain. He actually worked for Shepherd but had been robbed and beaten up and few times and Shepherd felt he was a problem that needed to be got rid of to protect his reputation and drugs business. White bought drugs off Sam to sell and made a few hundred pounds a week. With Sam out of the way, he would pick up his share of the business.

That's why the sentences were so high. The judge ruled it as a murder carried out for gain - which means a 30 year starting point - and not just the immediate gain of the cash and drugs in his rucksack that they took and spent but other 'gain' they would get for killing Sam - namely the enhancement in Shepherd's reputation for dealing with a problem and shoring up his business and White's financial increase.

I was really pleased to see the length of the sentences Shepherd and White received, they deserve those sentences. Throughout the police interviews White came across to me as a snivelling little shit trying to save his own skin and telling lie after lie. I thought Shepherd came across as very cold and calculating and I wouldn't be at all surprised if I heard he was deemed by psychiatrists to be a psychopath. I found him a lot more scary than White.

 

[onmylunchbreak]

I'd say you're within your rights. With regards to your brother, he's their child and it's their choice to ignore it, just as much as it's your choice not to do so when it could effect your young ones. You can only do what you feel is best for your kids.

I'd always go on the side of caution where kids are involved, especially since you said your brother can be aggressive. Is that really someone you'd feel comfortable being around your children if he wasn't so closely related to you? It's probably an easier conversation to have sooner rather than later as well I'd think?

He was aggressive with me as a teenager but to be honest I haven’t seen that side of him in the last few years. He’s still argumentative but it’s more of an annoyance than a worry - they are never left alone with him (obviously I wouldn’t ever let him babysit). My children are very close to my parents and I want to tread carefully around that relationship. I am not interested in becoming estranged but I worry about an ultimatum of ‘sorry we would be coming around your house any more, because he is using weed’ would lead to them cutting us off, because they feel a criticism of how he behaves is an indirect criticism of them and the fact they turn a blind eye. It’s not easy! I can’t see him ever moving out which would solve the problems I’m facing. Sometimes he alludes to how when they are older he will take them out ‘for their first pint’. I definitely worry about his influence in that regard being the cool, bad boy uncle. I can’t fall out with him without falling out with my parents.

 

[Gossgirl12]

I used to smoke it before I fell pregnant and haven't touched it since. I could always take it or leave it, I used to enjoy it, it would relax me but I'd only smoke it once or twice a week. My ex partner however has smoked it since he was 17 and he's now 36. He's two different people, all sentimental etc when he's smoking it, evil when he's not or has no money to buy it, he's also absolutely terrible with money because most of his income is spent on it. Sad life to live.

 

[Strangewords]

There is also the question of how it is produced - here in the UK it is mostly produced by trafficked children under horrific conditions of slavery

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Both Bao’s parents, fishermen in a rural part of Vietnam, were killed in a car crash when he was a baby, leaving him to be brought up by his grandparents, who lived in a wooden shack by a river. By the time he was 10, both of them had died, and he was living on the streets of a city in Vietnam, selling lottery tickets to feed himself.

When he was about 14, he was kidnapped by two men while he slept under the bridge; he was bound and gagged using duct tape, put into a sack and then into the boot of a car. Some time later, he was taken to China, where for several months he worked and slept in a warehouse, packaging saucepans. He was malnourished and beaten if he made the mistake of speaking while working. Later again, a group of young workers were taken and put into a cold shipping container, given a bag of bread and a bottle of water each, and kept there for around three months, while the ship travelled to a country that might have been France. He was later driven to the UK, smuggled above the wheels of a lorry.
The truck stopped in a forest in the UK, where he was shuffled into another vehicle and taken to a house. He was kept there for 10 months and forced into sex work. Then, for reasons that are no clearer to him than any of the other abrupt changes, he was driven to a house somewhere quiet, left alone and told to tend to the plants.

Living in a flat that has been converted into a cannabis farm is fraught with danger. “Above my head there were wires hanging down,” Bao says, “and I had to be careful to make sure the duvet didn’t catch fire. There were wires everywhere, powering all the electricity to the room. I had to step around them when I was watering, and they were hung quite low – so if I wasn’t careful, it would burn my hair. That happened quite a few times. Sometimes, I would brush past the lights and singe my hands and arms. I found it tiring. There were so many plants to look after, and the flat was very squashed.”

Bao was under strict instructions not to answer the door to anyone, so when police knocked five months after he had arrived at the flat, he did not answer; instead, they knocked the door down. He tried to hide beneath the cannabis plants that had flourished under his care and grown to waist height. But the police found him and bombarded him with questions, which, not speaking a word of English, he didn’t understand. He was handcuffed, taken away and held in police custody overnight. A solicitor was found, who advised him to plead guilty to cannabis cultivation, regardless of the fact that he was clearly a child and had been trafficked.

In the most outlandish discovery to date, police last month found three teenage boys from Vietnam working in a former nuclear bunker in Wiltshire, living in a subterranean warren of 40 rooms built in the 1980s to accommodate government officials in the event of nuclear attack. The boys are said to have been held behind a five-inch-thick metal door, with no access to daylight or fresh air, instructed to look after thousands of plants growing in 20 rooms.

https://www.theguardian.com/society...eenagers-tending-uk-cannabis-farms-vietnamese

Yep, extremely unethical to buy any illegal drug due to the human costs involved. Trafficked children and adults involved in farming etc and vulnerable kids forced into selling drugs on the street too.

 

[Titntat]

I think it's a dangerous road. Dont get me wrong I'll have a joint every now and then but I have seen people become addicted (not physically but mentally) and it has ruined not only their life but their families lifes too.
Any controlled drug, legal or illegal can be addictive and ruin lifes. But because weeds "jUsT a PlAnT" people think it's harmless, untill it's too late.
Not only financially but more important, it mentally fucks you up!

 

[Jaxie]

Out of all the choices of illegal drugs, I would prefer to interact with a stranger who had smoked weed than one who had smoked Ice. Weed has amazing pain relief properties once the addictive component is removed. I think smoking it is still bad for your lungs, the second hand smoke for those around you and the smell. There are other ways to take the drug. If someone is smoking the occasional weed in the neighbourhood in their house I am not going to care, if they do it out in public and around kids then I would say something to them. I do live in a neighbourhood that has houses getting raided constantly though, so many 'labs' out this way

 

[lipsticktaser]

I think the modern strains of super high thc skunk are very harmful. People I know that have been smoking it regularly have turned their brain into mush.

Prohibition has caused these more harmful varieties that are a world apart from what people had a few decades ago imo.

This is why I think legalise. My dad has parkinsons, it has been proven to help. If he was to go to a dealer who knows what strain it would be and if it would be effective. If he could go to a weed dispensary like LA, he could get the right weed for him.

Personally I don't mind it. Had the odd doob. Smoked heavy for periods but not touched it two years. Brother smokes regularly no issues. Husbands friend can't function without it, if stoned around his kids etc. I think it's a problem for him.
It's the same as booze, some can have it now and again. Some people take it too far.

I think it will be legalised because of how much money it can bring in when you tax it.