That‘s outrageous. Though it looks like he was roundly criticised for it: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...er-remarks-to-rape-victim-on-tv/28674509.htmlI recall Eamonn Holmes saying to a sexually abused victim on This Morning program....
" But why didn't you get a taxi home?'
Yes, always Eamonn, the blame is placed with the women
How about educating Men not to abuse and attack women!!!
Sorry to hear that happened, that's awful xYes, I completely agree that they’re important for a variety of reasons and I’m sorry if my post sounded dismissive, it really wasn’t meant that way. I was just trying to point out that the assumption that crime, particularly sex crime, would increase if street lights were off between 1am and 5am, wasn’t necessarily correct based on crime data.
I’m possibly not going to phrase this quite how I think about it but I hate seeing women say they’re afraid to walk alone at night *just* because it’s dark, as though bad things only happen when it’s dark. When I was sexually assaulted by a stranger on a street, it was broad daylight. When I was raped, I was at home. When I was followed by a creep, it was in central London. I appreciate that my experiences are not necessarily representative of all women. It makes me sad that so many women limit their lives by being afraid of the dark.
Adjacent to this, my job often involves me being alone in a forest at night. I cannot count the number of women whose first question to me is ‘aren’t you scared that some psycho will get you’. The answer is no, it’s vanishingly rare for psychos to hang out in forests at night.
Always has been, always will.Sorry to hear that happened, that's awful x
I didn’t think you were dismissive and it can be helpful/comforting to hear the stats but I think it boils down to the unfortunate truth we're all probably aware of: sometimes there's really only so much we can do to "protect" ourselves and there's no right or wrong way of doing that.
What is preventative in one scenario is meaningless in another. The issue is the deviants out there and until there's a massive societal shift then women will look for ways to feel safer, whether it's actually effective or not. But for now, the unfair attitude is that onus is on us to "avoid" harm.
Absolutely this!!!!This has really resonated in recent years, and I honestly wish it was just a choice at this point.View attachment 2479574
I actually think I'm done with men. I'm happily married to a man but that's it for me. If I ever end up single I'm dating a woman. There's just too much to risk with men.Absolutely this!!!!
Ha! I'm single and I feel the same way!I actually think I'm done with men. I'm happily married to a man but that's it for me. If I ever end up single I'm dating a woman. There's just too much to risk with men.
That is shocking...do you not have a HR department?My work has moved office, from a large buisness estate to an office above some shops in a town centre.
Manager doesn't seem to understand why female staff are scared to work late shifts in office. Instead of leaving and immediately being in a secure car park, we now have a ten minute walk through a rough area to a dark multi story car park.
There are drug addicts, homeless people and gangs of kids roaming the streets who often shout at us. I feel really vulnerable coming out when it is dark, and I am carrying what is very obviously a laptop bag.
Manager has given people option to drive home on lunch and work back half of shift at home . A few of the girls can't drive so can't get home in lunch. They have to stay unless can get a lift. This sometime means they are left in office alone between 5 and 8. When they have complaints to managers about being worried about being attacked, got told it is their fault they can't drive so just deal with it.
Just on the point of taxis.... I know people always say to get a taxi home but I'd much rather walk. For me it's the choice of getting into an enclosed space (taxi) with a man I don't know vs the risk of someone grabbing me off the street where I could scream and be heard. I personally feel safer walking than in a vehicle.That‘s outrageous. Though it looks like he was roundly criticised for it: https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...er-remarks-to-rape-victim-on-tv/28674509.html
Totally agree that women have to think about this sort of stuff all the time.Just on the point of taxis.... I know people always say to get a taxi home but I'd much rather walk. For me it's the choice of getting into an enclosed space (taxi) with a man I don't know vs the risk of someone grabbing me off the street where I could scream and be heard. I personally feel safer walking than in a vehicle.
It's crazy that we have to think about these choices so much - we should be able to just choose what's convenient for us. And I know the stats are low. But there's been enough cases in the news to make the choice of walk vs taxi one of 'between a rock and a hard place' for me.
Men just don't get it do they! I've always thought this was odd as men are more likely to be victims of street crime (muggings etc) and I know alot of male friends who've been robbed or mugged on nights out. I think they've just grown up with no messaging about looking out for their own safety so it doesn't occur to them to take preventative measures to avoid crime.Totally agree that women have to think about this sort of stuff all the time.
My ex husband could not understand one evening why I wanted to drive 2 mins in the car to the local shop to buy ingredients for our dinner. Called me paranoid and lazy because I wouldn't walk down to the local shop in the pitch dark...safe to say that he got no dinner that evening!
Men don't walk in our shoes...
He is my ex for many reasons!!
Men also overestimate their abilities both mentally and physically so probably think they can take on an assailant.Men just don't get it do they! I've always thought this was odd as men are more likely to be victims of street crime (muggings etc) and I know alot of male friends who've been robbed or mugged on nights out. I think they've just grown up with no messaging about looking out for their own safety so it doesn't occur to them to take preventative measures to avoid crime.
Yep! My husband never understands when he suggests I get a taxi in certain situations and I refuse. I just do not feel comfortable putting myself into such a confined space with lockable doors with a strange man (Chris Halliwell comes to mind!). In the times in the past I've done it have mostly been fine, apart from one who dropped me off at my door but then would not stop talking to me. Which also annoyed me afterwards, as a woman I'm often too 'polite' to men overstepping boundaries and I always feel annoyed at myself afterwards for not being more confident.Just on the point of taxis.... I know people always say to get a taxi home but I'd much rather walk. For me it's the choice of getting into an enclosed space (taxi) with a man I don't know vs the risk of someone grabbing me off the street where I could scream and be heard. I personally feel safer walking than in a vehicle.
It's crazy that we have to think about these choices so much - we should be able to just choose what's convenient for us. And I know the stats are low. But there's been enough cases in the news to make the choice of walk vs taxi one of 'between a rock and a hard place' for me.
The amount of people denying that happened and the comments about it all across the internet are horrific.Always has been, always will.
Not sure anyone read the horrific article on the BBC about Hamas raping Women but it's been that way since Man moved from 4 legs to 2.
Reading your comment made me think and most of the women I know would say the same - the only men they can trust are the ones related to them. I’m the same.Ha! I'm single and I feel the same way!
The only true good men in my life:
My late Dad
My late brother
My son
Sadly I've never found a man other than these 3 that I could trust.
Every other man in my life has let me down and disappointed me!
Men just don't get it do they! I've always thought this was odd as men are more likely to be victims of street crime (muggings etc) and I know alot of male friends who've been robbed or mugged on nights out. I think they've just grown up with no messaging about looking out for their own safety so it doesn't occur to them to take preventative measures to avoid crime.
Have spoken to Union and work will just not do anything. They say that it is an acceptable change as 1) we have an accommodation in the sense we can go home early and finish hours at home, and 2) we worked late hours in out old office.That is shocking...do you not have a HR department?
Yes...it is sad, isn't it!The amount of people denying that happened and the comments about it all across the internet are horrific.
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Reading your comment made me think and most of the women I know would say the same - the only men they can trust are the ones related to them. I’m the same.
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