I imagine their is a lot of involvement by social services. An old work colleague claimed she was renting a house in her street...she was disgusted. Because her house was so expensive and in an exclusive area. Worried it would drag price of her house downI think she's married with a child now. Goodness knows where I read that though, probably on a site like Tattle!
Not necessarily in terms of social services.I imagine their is a lot of involvement by social services. An old work colleague claimed she was renting a house in her street...she was disgusted. Because her house was so expensive and in an exclusive area. Worried it would drag price of her house down
wow I find that quite interesting about social services. I’m assuming she was given a new identity but it was obvious who she is.Not necessarily in terms of social services.
She used to go to the probation office I worked at, but only for a short time.
I dont understand what you are asking sorrywow I find that quite interesting about social services. I’m assuming she was given a new identity but it was obvious who she is.
I always wonder with probation office...are the offenders discussed or just the impact on rehabilitation and say funding work/employment?
So is the actual crime ever mentioned or just the conviction? So for example with Maxine would it be mentioned the actual events. Or would this never be mentioned and just talk about how finding work etc with a conspiring to prevent to course of justice conviction?I dont understand what you are asking sorry
Im still not sure sorry (it's late and my brain stops working) but if you are asking do we discuss the actual crime with the offender then yes. It's the central theme. We work around reducing the risk of reoffending which may include housing, employment, education etc but we also work on the views they have towards their behaviour, victim empathy etc. We were taught to always have the victim sitting on your shoulder (figuratively obviously)So is the actual crime ever mentioned or just the conviction? So for example with Maxine would it be mentioned the actual events. Or would this never be mentioned and just talk about how finding work etc with a conspiring to prevent to course of justice conviction?
I often feel like the victims are forgotten about as individuals and it’s more about moving the offender forward. Hope that makes more sense.
All aspects are discussed, including how the offender views themselves as well as the impact on both the victim and on them in relation to moving forward with their lives. There are also charities that ex offenders can approach or be referred to that offer assistance with a range of things such as counselling, housing and work etc. I'm not saying it's always straightforward or successful though obviously but in terms of probation, it's a condition of sentencing/release that they must engage with the service.wow I find that quite interesting about social services. I’m assuming she was given a new identity but it was obvious who she is.
I always wonder with probation office...are the offenders discussed or just the impact on rehabilitation and say funding work/employment?
I appreciate it’s obviously really complex but it is interesting that the whole situation is looked at. Especially how the person views themselves. I know in my local area there is a charity that helps rehabilitate people on release. Things like housing as if that’s not sorted then likely to fall back into old habits. I do find it really interesting. I watched a documentary on how different counties deal with release. Think it was Sweden where there is no whole life sentence. I was at a party once with a women who was a prison psychologist...most unapproachable person ever but maybe that was a defence to being asked lots of questions about her job. So didn’t ask any lol xAll aspects are discussed, including how the offender views themselves as well as the impact on both the victim and on them in relation to moving forward with their lives. There are also charities that ex offenders can approach or be referred to that offer assistance with a range of things such as counselling, housing and work etc. I'm not saying it's always straightforward or successful though obviously but in terms of probation, it's a condition of sentencing/release that they must engage with the service.
I think probably she could have been quite impressionable! I think a poster earlier on said there was some abuse there?The Soham murders was shocking. I wonder what made Maxine Carr lie. She thought she’d lose her job?! She did and a lot more. I wonder if she just couldn’t comprehend the enormity of what had happened. I always got the impression she was a bit slow and very impressionable. Does excise what she did in any way.
Poor Kelly Anne how she must have suffered. Sure it was over a 150 injuries including gouging out her eyes which I remember reading must have happened anywhere between 1-3 weeks before she died. Her brother went round and was told she was out. It really upset me her case as she must have suffered so badly and for people who cared about her to live with knowing that x
Just awful! Imagine being on the jury and seeing pics. She was loved and people were checking on her. Read that he took her to window as a neighbour was asking after her. She must have felt awful after thinking she could have done something but it’s not her fault. Don’t think you’d comprehend it xI just looked up the Kelly Anne Bates case. Dear god. I don’t think I’ve ever read anything like that
And someone forwarded those photos onto her father just after she died. The world is a sick place.Always remember when I was around 14-15 in 2006 on MSN (good times) someone send me a link to photos of a crash victim.
Her name was Nikki Catsouras.
She had an argument with her dad and Went for a drive in his Porsche 911, which she wasn’t allowed to drive. She lost control and hit a toll booth at 100mph.
The photos of the scene got leaked by an Officer who’d sent them to friends.
This stayed with me and will be with me for a long time.
Please Please Please don’t go searching for the pictures. They are horrific and are still very easily found with a google search, unfortunately.
I think of her often. It’s a story that’s always stuck with me- even more so now I’m a mother. I think we all like to think we would be able to protect our children but her father only did what he thought was best. She had no chance against that monster.Just awful! Imagine being on the jury and seeing pics. She was loved and people were checking on her. Read that he took her to window as a neighbour was asking after her. She must have felt awful after thinking she could have done something but it’s not her fault. Don’t think you’d comprehend it x
She didn’t. He’d been violent with other partners and groomed her from her mid teens xI think of her often. It’s a story that’s always stuck with me- even more so now I’m a mother. I think we all like to think we would be able to protect our children but her father only did what he thought was best. She had no chance against that monster.
Oh yes I remember this. I was on a night away and it came on the TV in the hotel. I was laughing to my husband saying it cannot be real. I thought it was a made up programme until I realised it wasn't. Stuck with me for days after.Just been talking to my husband about the Swedish twins that ran in front of traffic on the m6. They were on a motorway patrol programme and were behaving bizarrely. One was hit by a lorry, the other by a car. Then one was released from cuaotdu and ended up stabbing a man to death.
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