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PaigeY kind of. She just graduated from astrophysics at Cambridge but is going (very smartly imo) into an actuarial grad role. She's the only study tuber who I can still stand and seems to have a decent head on her.
I second this. There’s also “flo’s study diary” she does maths at cambridge ☺

I quite miss the a-level jade as I found her really motivating. Now I just click off her videos/stories after a couple of seconds
 
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Jade made a good decision. STEM degree from Minerva doesn't sound that great so doing business instead is a lot smarter.
 
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Minerva's HQ is also located on Market St in SF, where Twitter's office and other companies like that are. She's in it for the business it seems. She wants to make the $$$ and come across as this really inspirational person and make money off it. She was a lot more authentic back in the day - maybe because we see more of her life now, things are different...
Now, I think she's changed. She's not the Jade I looked up to anymore. She seems obsessed with business and brand deals, always marketing products. I bet she'll end up working for Minerva, seeing as her internship seemed to revolve around "analysing their instagram page". Students literally market this institution as part of their work-study agreement. Well the internship involves that, but the online presence like with her and Dinara are designed to market Minerva.
I've been following Dinara for a while now, and even she seems a lot more... normal. Like she seems real and not trying to be different. She doesn't put her uni in this amazing light all the time, while she doesn't bash it.


It basically is. Higher up people get students, students do work-study for financial aid which is basically just promoting the uni (who knows if Jade got financial aid, she came from a high-income earning family), they get students, same thing.
I think that, in essence, Minerva is just a means of buying your way into Silicon Valley. It's clear from a bit of research that the people who run Minerva have a convenient little agreement with Silicon Valley companies where they take on Minerva students for internships. A degree from Minerva can set you up for life not because you've received some kind of superior education, but because you get put into contact with companies like Uber, bypassing the usual route that you'd have to go down to secure an internship with a company like that. It's why nearly all Minerva grads go into the corporate world; you don't hear about students going on to do PhDs because their vague, mishmashed education is unlikely to provide them with the more specialised knowledge they need to pursue academia.

I don't know if this article has been linked before but it's worth a read if you want to see how deluded and pretentious the Minerva CEO is (Jade makes an appearance too): https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...-minerva-the-worlds-most-selective-university

He makes so many bizarre claims about traditional universities - according to him students from traditional universities forget everything after they graduate, we don't learn critical thinking, and apparently our education involves sitting silently while listening to a professor talk. Apparently class discussions and group work are unique to Minerva! And Minerva's obsession with encouraging ~critical thinking~ is pretty ironic - I have a hard time believing they practice this 'critical thinking' when it comes to their classes on capitalism. If anything their education model seems to stifle critical thinking - it seems like every class is taught through a narrow corporate/business lens. I mean even Jade's classes on racism and psychology seemed to revolve around the corporate workplace.
 
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TheKingBeth studied Maths at Southampton and has a few videos on it, but it's not the main focus of her channel.
 
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He makes so many bizarre claims about traditional universities - according to him students from traditional universities forget everything after they graduate, we don't learn critical thinking, and apparently our education involves sitting silently while listening to a professor talk. Apparently class discussions and group work are unique to Minerva! And Minerva's obsession with encouraging ~critical thinking~ is pretty ironic - I have a hard time believing they practice this 'critical thinking' when it comes to their classes on capitalism. If anything their education model seems to stifle critical thinking - it seems like every class is taught through a narrow corporate/business lens. I mean even Jade's classes on racism and psychology seemed to revolve around the corporate workplace.
Your whole comment is excellent but this part really explains why Jade has been brainwashed into having a false and negative view of traditional universities and their teaching methods.
 
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Your whole comment is excellent but this part really explains why Jade has been brainwashed into having a false and negative view of traditional universities and their teaching methods.
I really wonder how her non Minerva friends at uni react when she bleats on like this. I'd find it insulting tbh
 
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I really wonder how her non Minerva friends at uni react when she bleats on like this. I'd find it insulting tbh
Exactly. I bet Eve B is secretly chuffed she got to Oxford and not Jade. They are both now in Berlin for a few months but Eve can speak much better German than Jade, so I bet deep down Jade feels unprepared.
 
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Your whole comment is excellent but this part really explains why Jade has been brainwashed into having a false and negative view of traditional universities and their teaching methods.
Yep, when she says this in the article it really makes me think she being fed a spiel of misinformation by Minerva about traditional universities: "It’s so different from just sitting in a lecture theatre. You learn as you do, not learn by rote. And I have learned so much more in the past year than in any year of my life."

I don't know why she seems to think the only form of teaching at a traditional uni is lectures. And this demonisation of lectures as an inferior form learning shows how myopic their view of education is. Lectures (in combination with classes, tutorials and independent reading) are very useful for providing a high-level structured overview of a topic which is difficult to provide in an interactive class. You'd struggle to teach a course like Chemistry without them. And her implication that you 'learn by rote' at traditional universities is just simply not true and quite patronising... I think most university students would agree you can't get by in university through memorisation alone.

I'm thinking they must have orientation classes at Minerva which feeds them all this drivel about how different Minerva is from traditional education, because all of them give the same damn canned responses about critical thinking/lectures bad/problem solving. They're like parrots!!
 
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Yep, when she says this in the article it really makes me think she being fed a spiel of misinformation by Minerva about traditional universities: "It’s so different from just sitting in a lecture theatre. You learn as you do, not learn by rote. And I have learned so much more in the past year than in any year of my life."

I don't know why she seems to think the only form of teaching at a traditional uni is lectures. And this demonisation of lectures as an inferior form learning shows how myopic their view of education is. Lectures (in combination with classes, tutorials and independent reading) are very useful for providing a high-level structured overview of a topic which is difficult to provide in an interactive class. You'd struggle to teach a course like Chemistry without them. And her implication that you 'learn by rote' at traditional universities is just simply not true and quite patronising... I think most university students would agree you can't get by in university through memorisation alone.

I'm thinking they must have orientation classes at Minerva which feeds them all this drivel about how different Minerva is from traditional education, because all of them give the same damn canned responses about critical thinking/lectures bad/problem solving. They're like parrots!!
Quite a random point, and I hope this makes sense. Since one of the first videos when she was saying how much of her cohort is also vegan I was unsurprised as (without being offensive to vegans, nothing against them at all) it does just imply that, regardless of being from different countries, a lot of them are probably very similar people, and it may actually be a lot less diverse than a "traditional" university (especially because of the small size) and so are all just confirming each others' opinions of traditional uni as they believe themselves to be so special/ Pure speculation obv (I have too much time on my hands in furlough :LOL:)
 
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There is nothing inherently wrong with rote learning. It has its place as the foundational knowledge from which we can reason and debate.

We all learned the alphabet and times tables by rote, and they are far from useless!
 
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There’s a reason so many uni students are complaining about virtual classes and struggling with mental health issues more than ever. It’s because it’s clearly an inferior experience to in person, lecture-based. Personally I cannot learn by very interactive classes like Minerva looks to have, being ‘colour-coded’ on how much I talked in an online class would be a nightmare for me. If it works for her, then fine. But it’s a model of education that obviously doesn’t work for everyone and shouldn’t be looked on as “superior” to traditional lectures and considered the “future of education”. No wonder their primary course of study focuses more on the humanities and business, less on STEM subjects.Besides that, all universities strive to teach critical thinking, so what about Minerva makes it so special? I think they’ve been told that since it’s soooo selective and new that they’re just really special and they’ve been taught to have moral superiority over all of us that opted for a normal university, I'm sure they're just not all as smug about it as Jade is. The supposed diversity also looks pretty hollow when you consider they all pretty much some from the same socioeconomic background, as in their parents can afford all the costs. I can absolutely see Jade just continuing on as an influencer trying to "motivate" people, or opting for some lifeless corporate job after she's done with minerva. I kinda wonder why she's even bothering to get a degree at all.
 
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Dutch just sounds similar to German to an untrained ear, and I can't believe she's so smug she said German is easy! Dutch has no infernally complicated case system/grammatical rules/sentence structures. Also, holy crap she's annoying. - An irritated linguist
 
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There’s a reason so many uni students are complaining about virtual classes and struggling with mental health issues more than ever. It’s because it’s clearly an inferior experience to in person, lecture-based. Personally I cannot learn by very interactive classes like Minerva looks to have, being ‘colour-coded’ on how much I talked in an online class would be a nightmare for me.
Honestly, colour-coding students on the amount and not the quality of what they contribute, seems like a flawed system.
 
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Dutch just sounds similar to German to an untrained ear, and I can't believe she's so smug she said German is easy! Dutch has no infernally complicated case system/grammatical rules/sentence structures. Also, holy crap she's annoying. - An irritated linguist
as a linguist (native english) never having studied a germanic language, I can understand basic dutch... her bragging really annoys me. German is known as one of the most complicated (European) languages?! all the clauses etc

There’s a reason so many uni students are complaining about virtual classes and struggling with mental health issues more than ever. It’s because it’s clearly an inferior experience to in person, lecture-based. Personally I cannot learn by very interactive classes like Minerva looks to have, being ‘colour-coded’ on how much I talked in an online class would be a nightmare for me. If it works for her, then fine. But it’s a model of education that obviously doesn’t work for everyone and shouldn’t be looked on as “superior” to traditional lectures and considered the “future of education”. No wonder their primary course of study focuses more on the humanities and business, less on STEM subjects.Besides that, all universities strive to teach critical thinking, so what about Minerva makes it so special? I think they’ve been told that since it’s soooo selective and new that they’re just really special and they’ve been taught to have moral superiority over all of us that opted for a normal university, I'm sure they're just not all as smug about it as Jade is. The supposed diversity also looks pretty hollow when you consider they all pretty much some from the same socioeconomic background, as in their parents can afford all the costs. I can absolutely see Jade just continuing on as an influencer trying to "motivate" people, or opting for some lifeless corporate job after she's done with minerva. I kinda wonder why she's even bothering to get a degree at all.
i never knew about this colour coded system?! wtf what about students who dominate the conversation (of which there are always some) not giving others the chance? this seems insane to me
 
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Dutch just sounds similar to German to an untrained ear, and I can't believe she's so smug she said German is easy! Dutch has no infernally complicated case system/grammatical rules/sentence structures. Also, holy crap she's annoying. - An irritated linguist
Doesn't even sound that similar to me. It seems to me (as someone who doesn't speak German but does speak Latin) that German would be much more simple to understand with a Latin or Ancient Greek, or perhaps even Russian and Czech, background, because they're all case languages. My Latin teacher (a native Dutch speaker who also speaks German alongside approximately a thousand other languages, I'm jealous), said that while some of the vocabulary is very similar between Dutch and German, the grammar is actually quite different.
 
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I think what annoys me about Minvera the most, except the whole cultish aspect of it, is the fact that it seems to have been developed by business people, not teachers. a lot of what they say is totally incorrect, it's really driving me mad
 
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Honestly, colour-coding students on the amount and not the quality of what they contribute, seems like a flawed system.
Hugely flawed - aside from the obvious flaw that it encourages people to speak for the sake of it rather than speaking when they have something insightful to contribute, there's also a lot of research which has shown that male students are more likely to speak up during class, and POC may also be less likely to contribute in some contexts.
 
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She edited that notion video, I watched it when it first came out and she was even more cringe, talking about hiring an editor etc, she didn’t have some of the things they wanted her to push, I don’t remember the tags bit I think?
 
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