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That community sounds like where I grew up in Huddersfield in the 90’s. A council estate where crime and drugs were happening and the police were scared to enter because it just meant more trouble.

In the end the council started to evict people as they were demolishing the estate and building new houses which were to be for sale. It was their way of getting rid of the worst of them and only decent tenants were offered a home. It worked.
Social cleansing has been increasing over the years. Landowners demolish or refurb the estates with social housing, placing the residents elsewhere while saying they can come back once it’s all rebuilt, but reduce the amount of social housing and increase the number of properties for private sale.
 
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I actually think Cleverly is the first serious contender since Khan took office. It's a sensible move for him. He's not going anywhere fast in the current Tory set up. It a similar situation to Boris and David Cameron IMO. Kemi knows he's a threat to her leadership so wants to push him sidewise.
 
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I actually think Cleverly is the first serious contender since Khan took office. It's a sensible move for him. He's not going anywhere fast in the current Tory set up. It a similar situation to Boris and David Cameron IMO. Kemi knows he's a threat to her leadership so wants to push him sidewise.
I think he was going to get the boot from the Shadow Cabinet, so he jumped.
He does know the election isn’t until 2028 and there’s absolutely no guarantee he’ll be selected as the candidate?
 
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Social cleansing has been increasing over the years. Landowners demolish or refurb the estates with social housing, placing the residents elsewhere while saying they can come back once it’s all rebuilt, but reduce the amount of social housing and increase the number of properties for private sale.
The cleansed the tit burgs off the estate which was a positive all round. They got rid of the drug dealers, violent offenders and those who would commit crimes. It actually ended up a nice place to grow up. They even modernised the remaining council properties that they kept.

I know it had been going downhill again in the last 10-15 years. Because once again they’re letting the bad in. It’s just sad. My mum was driven from a home she had lived in for decades by people who were apparently fleeing some sort of turmoil in Hungary. They were racist to get, threatened to burn her house down with her in it (they even set fire to her fence to show how serious they were), tried to rob her numerous times and had a campaign of banging on her wall all through the night.

My mum told the council and the police and they told her she was the issue and maybe she should move! She had lived in that area since she was a kid and only left to join the army. She knew all her neighbours and was part of numerous community betterment projects, but apparently SHE was the problem. They implied she was racist. So she moved to a bungalow and someone else moved into her old house and THEY complained about this family. That family were eventually evicted…for being racist.
 
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The cleansed the tit burgs off the estate which was a positive all round. They got rid of the drug dealers, violent offenders and those who would commit crimes. It actually ended up a nice place to grow up. They even modernised the remaining council properties that they kept.

I know it had been going downhill again in the last 10-15 years. Because once again they’re letting the bad in. It’s just sad. My mum was driven from a home she had lived in for decades by people who were apparently fleeing some sort of turmoil in Hungary. They were racist to get, threatened to burn her house down with her in it (they even set fire to her fence to show how serious they were), tried to rob her numerous times and had a campaign of banging on her wall all through the night.

My mum told the council and the police and they told her she was the issue and maybe she should move! She had lived in that area since she was a kid and only left to join the army. She knew all her neighbours and was part of numerous community betterment projects, but apparently SHE was the problem. They implied she was racist. So she moved to a bungalow and someone else moved into her old house and THEY complained about this family. That family were eventually evicted…for being racist.
Councils and HAs don’t do enough to tackle antisocial neighbours, imo.
 
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I don’t think her son will be in any danger at the Reading festival. The Nova festival is another beast entirely, and I would probably avoid Ariana Grande concerts going forward, And The Eagles of Death Metal.
 
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Now as much as I would love to fight for Labour I’ve been informed that I owe my economic prosperity, culture, and infrastructure to immigrants, and any expression of patriotism is the first step on an inevitable journey to the gas chambers. So I’ll leave it to Mohammed to die for Andy/Allah. I’ll happily retrain to take his role saving the NHS.

 
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Councils and HAs don’t do enough to tackle antisocial neighbours, imo.
Agreed. But what do you suggest they do? Stop benefits? That‘s just spending money to them, they make their living selling weed or other drugs, and from low level criminality. That will also inevitably lead to a court case and a verdict that it’s in violation of human rights. Evict them? A ditto court case. Have a jolly nice middle class middle manager call round for a nice cosy chat about Being Kind? Offering a wellness course? What?
 
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I see Burnham has changed the early release scheme so PC Harper’s killers won’t get let out yet.


In an exclusive interview with BBC Breakfast, Burnham said anyone convicted of unlawful killing, including all forms of manslaughter, will be excluded from the scheme, which would have made two of the officer's killers eligible for early release.

Burnham said extra prison space would be created by deporting foreign prisoners and releasing some inmates serving indefinite sentences.
The prime minister said that will be achieved in-part through ending Imprisonment for Public Protection sentences, or IPPs.

These were available between 2005 and 2012, and were given to offenders who pose a significant risk of causing serious harm to the public.

Once a minimum term has been served, the prisoner can be released only once the Parole Board is satisfied they no longer need to be confined for public safety, meaning many are being held indefinitely.

Burnham said he had applied "common sense" on the treatment of IPPs, which he had "long-standing concerns" about.
 
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Now as much as I would love to fight for Labour I’ve been informed that I owe my economic prosperity, culture, and infrastructure to immigrants, and any expression of patriotism is the first step on an inevitable journey to the gas chambers. So I’ll leave it to Mohammed to die for Andy/Allah. I’ll happily retrain to take his role saving the NHS.

“Severe punishment” - what a load of crock - we are busy releasing violent criminals because our prisons are full. The “severe punishment” will probably consist of 20 hours community service.
 
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“Severe punishment” - what a load of crock - we are busy releasing violent criminals because our prisons are full. The “severe punishment” will probably consist of 20 hours community service.
Is it ungallant of me to point out that no punishment will be more “severe” then being blown to bits by a Russian drone.

But anyway anyone with a Ukrainian flag or a Palestinian flag in their profile first please. It’s their most fervent wish. Anyone with anxiety and depression next, basic training will provide them with focus and clarity to help them with their conditions, and if they have suicidal ideation storming Russian lines with a bayonet will be the perfect environment to grant their greatest desire for the warm embrace of death. Then the feral little people of Middlesbrough and other towns because they are like “dead hard”. Then the secret weapon, Labour and Green voters who will swarm the Russian lines with reasoned debate, love and hope, and defeat the enemy by making little heart shapes with the fingers. Cos vibez. Andy and Ange will be with you in spirit and will be ever so solemn when you return home in a casket covered with a Union Jack. Except in Birmingham, where that will cause distress.
 
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The mention of IPP jogged my memory and I recalled this article about them from 2024: https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...rgotten-prisoners-documentary-martin-read-ipp

It turns out that while IPP was abolished in 2012, it was not done retrospectively, so prisoners already serving those sentences remained locked up with no end date for the sentence. There are apparently still 2400 people still serving them. I was actually a bit staggered by this. How can it be allowed for people to stay imprisoned with an indeterminate sentence? I am assuming it’s one of those things that each government since 2012 just hasn’t bothered to address.
 
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The mention of IPP jogged my memory and I recalled this article about them from 2024: https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...rgotten-prisoners-documentary-martin-read-ipp

It turns out that while IPP was abolished in 2012, it was not done retrospectively, so prisoners already serving those sentences remained locked up with no end date for the sentence. There are apparently still 2400 people still serving them. I was actually a bit staggered by this. How can it be allowed for people to stay imprisoned with an indeterminate sentence? I am assuming it’s one of those things that each government since 2012 just hasn’t bothered to address.
I think something like them isn't a bad idea for serious or repeated sex offences. But the way it was done for anything and everything was stupid.

And what they should have done when they abolished them was have everyone re-sentneced, with the presumption that most would be released based on the time served and any who were legitimately dangerous could be converted to life sentences or hospital orders. That would have been a slightly more complex law to write though.
 
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Now as much as I would love to fight for Labour I’ve been informed that I owe my economic prosperity, culture, and infrastructure to immigrants, and any expression of patriotism is the first step on an inevitable journey to the gas chambers. So I’ll leave it to Mohammed to die for Andy/Allah. I’ll happily retrain to take his role saving the NHS.

I'm sure the conscription story was news several months ago, was there something specific that prompted it to be news again?
Though I'll admit to a degree of automatic skepticism when it comes to dramatic tweets touting articles that call themselves 'exclusive' when the headline seems to be about something we already knew.
 
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