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Farage is a dangerous fascist. He warrants scrutiny. As someone with family who escaped a fascist regime, no one, in any country, should ever be lulled into a false sense of security thinking "that wouldn't happen here". I want that man criticised and scrutinised and his actual policies examined with a fine tooth comb.
Justmechan23
Chatty Member
Sunak has the talk doesn’t he, very polished and knows the right things to say. It’s like those who breeze through job interviews but when it comes down to it are actually shit once in the job. The debate was all over the place.
I really resent selfish people who say that none of their tax should go towards helping children in any form because they aren't parents. I'm not a dad but would see this as a priority - I hate the idea of any child going hungry.
BearOnChair
Well-known member
It does though and it is relevant. He's in a completely different wealth bracket to anyone he's making decisions for.
biscuitthief
Well-known member
Pop them on ignore @pommobear - this person clearly no longer wishes to be engaged in a meaningful and respectful discussion.
Miss Begotten
VIP Member
Do we think these fuckers have reached the threshold to be called scum yet?
And there I was thinking they were the true patriots.
And there I was thinking they were the true patriots.
HelloStereo
VIP Member
Growth is more likely when you boost the income of the poor rather than the wealthy:
How boosting the income of the poor spurs growth | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
HelloStereo
VIP Member
You sure some didn't come over from France, Germany or Denmark?All law abiding citizens over here. All born and bred in the UK as were my ancestors before me.
I am starting to think you are playing a parody of all right wing stereotypes and this is actually satire.
biscuitthief
Well-known member
Same. I am child-free by choice but I cannot bear the thought of any child going hungry. I think free breakfast clubs are a great idea.
Surely these things are a better use of taxpayers money compared to dodgy contracts that serve no purpose other than to line the pockets of the Tories and their cronies.
We had that - they were called Sure Start Centres. Introduced by Tessa Jowell under Blair in 1998. Funding for which was cut by the Tories. Between 2010 - 2019 around 1300 centres were closed.I’m agreeing with you
Sure Start - Wikipedia
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biscuitthief
Well-known member
Everything you have mentioned there Rishi Sunak is either doing or has already done.
Sunak wants to build 1.6m homes. In the first quarter of 2021 the Tories received £900.000 in donations from Property Developers who went on to apply for planning permission in several tory run areas.
Immigration is at its highest under Rishi's watch. He has spent millions on the Rwanda Scheme and yet called the election before any deportations could happen - because he knew they wouldn't. Thanks to cuts to the Home Office and Justice system it takes longer to approve visa applications and deportations aren't happening. The Tory manifesto that was out yesterday is proposing more cuts to Civil Service which will also make the situation worse. The so called "deterrent" alone isn't going to be enough.
According to DEFRA 68% of the area of England is utilised agricultural land. Whilst crop production has been declining the amount of land available has stayed relatively consistent. 2008-2009 saw the biggest decline in agricultural land. 90% of all agricultural land is privately owned. No Govt can just build on privately owned farmland - unless it is sold to a developer and planning permission is granted.
Rishi couldn't dedicate a few hours of his time to attend a world leaders event on D-Day. Proving that he has no time for any negotiation with Foreign leaders. He wants to pull out of the ECHR which is a convention created after WW2 to prevent travesties like the holocaust from ever happening again.
The Tories have already passed legislation to crack down on those with opposing beliefs with the anti protest legislation.
Your concerns are legitimate but everything you are dreading has already happened - under the Conservatives.
I tend to shy away from thinking "the left" and "the right" are one homogenous mass but occasionally you get someone pop up who exemplifies every single tired old stereotype about that particular group. I might not have shared their politics but there were actually a fair few quite decent Tory politicians until Brexit and BoJo drove them out. If anything I would say I probably have more in common WRT my views with those on the centre right than the hard left. I don't think extremes on either side are healthy or nuanced - nuance is hugely missing in general from mainstream politics. I don't think multiculturalism is all flowers and roses either - believe it or not, growing up mixed race and not quite fitting into either identity is fucking hard, made harder by ignorant and small minded attitudes such as those which have been displayed on this thread. However I recognise that society is multifaceted and complex and most problems have numerous contributing factors which go extremely deep.
Bobby Chariot
VIP Member
Dear God NOBring back Boris
Cack_Conroe
Well-known member
I’m dreading Keir Starmer’s probable win.
He intends to concrete over the countryside with 1.5 million more houses, lining the pockets of property developer friends while re-labelling them as housing experts. While also importing more and more immigrants into this overcrowded country.
We don’t have enough arable land to feed the country as it is, putting us at risk of starvation.
His economic policies will drive us into hyperinflation so we can’t afford to buy in food either.
He has no real plan for negotiating with foreign powers to cool tensions and reduce chances of world war 3. He is liar, and cannot be trusted to deal with the Israel-Palestine situation sensibly.
He says he will end “Tory culture wars on day 1” - that means cracking down on opposing beliefs using the force of the law. The progress women have made in the past couple of years in fighting to restore our rights will be wiped out.
He is dangerous and will destroy the country.
He intends to concrete over the countryside with 1.5 million more houses, lining the pockets of property developer friends while re-labelling them as housing experts. While also importing more and more immigrants into this overcrowded country.
We don’t have enough arable land to feed the country as it is, putting us at risk of starvation.
His economic policies will drive us into hyperinflation so we can’t afford to buy in food either.
He has no real plan for negotiating with foreign powers to cool tensions and reduce chances of world war 3. He is liar, and cannot be trusted to deal with the Israel-Palestine situation sensibly.
He says he will end “Tory culture wars on day 1” - that means cracking down on opposing beliefs using the force of the law. The progress women have made in the past couple of years in fighting to restore our rights will be wiped out.
He is dangerous and will destroy the country.
no-no
VIP Member
The Green Party can go back under their rock. increasing NI for “higher earners” aka over £50k and saying “oh, it’s only £5 a week, it’s nothing”. There needs to be a serious review of this £50k nonsense, it’s not a high earner any more. If you have student loans you take home less than £3k. Aren’t MPs always moaning they can’t exist on £90k?
judgejohndeed
VIP Member
It's like a modern day boomery tbh. The same as people who are like 'my daughter scrimped and saved to buy a house, she didn't buy any avocados or go on holiday' when there's other young people who are also not doing those things and struggling to pay their basic rent and bills with literally no money leftover to save. Average private school fees are apparently 12k a year. The fact you can afford that at all - any which way - means that if you weren't paying those fees you would have 12k spare a year in your back pocket. That is privileged when there's people who can't afford to eat.