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i read about the toy box killers case and the awful awful tape they used to play to each victim, I saw it on reddit last week and wish I never did! 🥵
I will never unread that transcript!! Also recommend reading up on Laurence Bittaker and Roy Norris.....those guys were pure evil. The recording they made of one of their victims is used to desensitive FBI agents. A brief shot of this is shown on Mindhunter.
 
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i read about the toy box killers case and the awful awful tape they used to play to each victim, I saw it on reddit last week and wish I never did! 🥵
Was this the one where they play the last victim
(I think it was Shirley) screaming for the court to listen to? Was very sad 😞 People are sick.
 
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Was this the one where they play the last victim
(I think it was Shirley) screaming for the court to listen to? Was very sad 😞 People are sick.
i'm not sure although I have heard that footage and can't unhear it! This is David Parker Ray and several accomplices who grape and tortured what they now think is 60+ women over about 30 years :( the transcript makes me want to vomit.
 
i'm not sure although I have heard that footage and can't unhear it! This is David Parker Ray and several accomplices who grape and tortured what they now think is 60+ women over about 30 years :( the transcript makes me want to vomit.
It’s the tool box killers I’m thinking of. I’ll read up on this one.
 
i'm not sure although I have heard that footage and can't unhear it! This is David Parker Ray and several accomplices who grape and tortured what they now think is 60+ women over about 30 years :( the transcript makes me want to vomit.
Where have you heard the Norris and Bitakker tape? As far as I'm aware it was never released to the public, only the transcript and few seconds can be heard during a court video where people leave.
 
Where have you heard the Norris and Bitakker tape? As far as I'm aware it was never released to the public, only the transcript and few seconds can be heard during a court video where people leave.
sorry i meant the small bit you can hear tnrough the door - I can still hear it as soon I think about it. I mean the written transcript of the Parker Ray tape, the thought of it just makes me want to vomit for what all those poor women went through (and that justice really was not served).
 
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sorry i meant the small bit you can hear tnrough the door - I can still hear it as soon I think about it. I mean the written transcript of the Parker Ray tape, the thought of it just makes me want to vomit for what all those poor women went through (and that justice really was not served).
Ah I was gonna say, ive never know anyone hear the actual tape 😮 I like to think I'm quite desensitised to a lot of things but I dont think I could ever listen to that if it became available. The things they did to those poor girls haunt me.

David Parker Ray repulses me, imagine coming to and hearing that tape and all thhe "rules" and things hes gonna do.
 
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A few cases I feel most invested in -

Jodi Huisentruit - missing anchor woman who worked for a local news station in Iowa. Was abducted outside her apartment in 1995; never been found. Highly recommend the Finding Jodi podcast.

The Springfield Three - three woman (a mother, daughter and daughter's friend) vanished from a house in Missouri in the middle of the night in 1992, never to be seen again. I have lost sleep over this case.

EARONS - Solved now, but I think there is still so much we will find out about him. The 'I'm gonna kill you' phone call recording is absolutely terrifying.

Andrew Gosden - 14 year-old boy disappeared from Doncaster in 2007. Skipped school that day, took a train to London (CCTV confirming him arriving at King's Cross and not seen since.) I have my own thoughts on what I think happened with this, and I really hope to see it solved one day soon!

West Memphis Three - I really bought into their innocence after seeing all the Paradise Lost docs. I even bought Damian's book and was a bit of a fan girl for a time. However I've read extensively on the Callaghan site and I now think they were involved in it.

I nearly watched that and changed my at the last minute. I also like cults. Well not like exactly, they are fascinating, i am interested in nxvium at the moment.
Have you watched The Vow? it was excellent I must say.

Suzanne Pilley, although her ex was found guilty of her murder, we still don’t know what he did with her body.
There's a great Audible podcast on Suzanne's case; Body of Proof I think it's called? it's worth taking the month free trial just to listen to it!
 
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A few cases I feel most invested in -

Jodi Huisentruit - missing anchor woman who worked for a local news station in Iowa. Was abducted outside her apartment in 1995; never been found. Highly recommend the Finding Jody podcast.

The Springfield Three - three woman (a mother, daughter and daughter's friend) vanished from a house in Missouri in the middle of the night in 1992, never to be seen again. I have lost sleep over this case.

EARONS - Solved now, but I think there is still so much we will find out about him. The 'I'm gonna kill you' phone call recording is absolutely terrifying.

Andrew Gosden - 14 year-old boy disappeared from Doncaster in 2007. Skipped school that day, took a train to London (CCTV confirming him arriving at King's Cross and not seen since.) I have my own thoughts on what I think happened with this, and I really hope to see it solved one day soon!


Have you watched The Vow? it was excellent I must say.


There's a great Audible podcast on Suzanne's case; Body of Proof I think it's called? it's worth taking the month free trial just to listen to it!
The Springfield 3!! I always think of them, its so bizarre. Poor Andrew I was on the subreddit dedicated to his case and its perplexing what happened. What are your thoughts on it?
 
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The Springfield 3!! I always think of them, its so bizarre. Poor Andrew I was on the subreddit dedicated to his case and its perplexing what happened. What are your thoughts on it?
Springfield Three case just really boggles my mind and scares me senseless. I would do anything to find out what happened that night!

Andrew I believe sadly went to London to commit suicide. The fact he had never bunked off school or been in trouble before tells me that he had no intention of coming back to face the consequences. He could have planned to run away, but I feel he would have been found? I know it also opens up the question of why hasn't his body been found. It could have been found but not identified, hidden? I don't know, this is just what my gut tells me. I think Andrew was battling some personal turmoil that he couldn't tell his family about (no disrespect to them of course.)
 
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Springfield Three case just really boggles my mind and scares me senseless. I would do anything to find out what happened that night!

Andrew I believe sadly went to London to commit suicide. The fact he had never bunked off school or been in trouble before tells me that he had no intention of coming back to face the consequences. He could have planned to run away, but I feel he would have been found? I know it also opens up the question of why hasn't his body been found. It could have been found but not identified, hidden? I don't know, this is just what my gut tells me. I think Andrew was battling some personal turmoil that he couldn't tell his family about (no disrespect to them of course.)
I go back and forth with suicide and him being groomed and killed. It's odd he didnt take his games charger,that implies he either knew he was coming back or knew he wasnt ever :( I find it hard to believe he wasnt active on forums, especially as he was into music.

Also regarding Springfield, do you think they are buired underneath the hospital parking?
 
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I will never unread that transcript!! Also recommend reading up on Laurence Bittaker and Roy Norris.....those guys were pure evil. The recording they made of one of their victims is used to desensitive FBI agents. A brief shot of this is shown on Mindhunter.
These two are the stuff of nightmares. Literally haunts me what they did, just beyond evil
 
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I started listening to The Lady Vanishes last night - it’s so good! Such an interesting case.
 
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Following the documentary, what is everyone’s views on Shannon Matthews? I believe the Mother in that she was going to leave, but then either something happened that night at home and she couldn’t or she changed her mind. Which resulted in her panicking and not coming clean with the police
 
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Peter Lawrence has died never knowing what happened to Claudia. Very sad.

Following the documentary, what is everyone’s views on Shannon Matthews? I believe the Mother in that she was going to leave, but then either something happened that night at home and she couldn’t or she changed her mind. Which resulted in her panicking and not coming clean with the police
When she planned to leave Craig and organised for Shannon to be taken Craig was sick and not at work that day. So the plot went awry. I live minutes away from the moor. There is a lot more that will never come out about it. The no grassing rule.
 
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Hi everyone. New to this thread.

The crimes I am most fascinated by are:

Manson Family
Golden State Killer
Ted Bundy
In fact, any American Serial Killer (not that Manson was directly)

Love them or hate them, I'm a Murderino. I also enjoy CaseFile - the Golden State Killer in particular. The Toybox killer was :eek:

For lighthearted podcasts, I listen to Hollywood Crime Story and Small Town Murder (they can be smutty if you are offended).

Love watching the crime channel, was fascinated by the Night Stalker series on Netflix and just finished the Hotel Cecil (I don't want to spoil the end to this, as it was news to me, but was always amazed by the theories on this one and actually went to the doorstep when I was in LA about 4 years ago).

I'm based in Australia, so for crimes that happened here, definitely Snowtown, Ivan Milat and Mr Cruel.
 
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