The Sullivan Family #23 Unemployment benefits paying a wedge but we can all see Zoe’s on the edge.

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She only likes it when people blow smoke in her arse. I bet the school doesn’t especially as Agnes had to go to the headteacher on her first day.
I truly hope Joseph thrives in school the way he does with Pen when he is out.
 
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I don’t think this is Zoe’s choice’…
I think this is penfolds choice.. he’s seeing how Jovif really is at home and has said he will be ok in school and sending him.
Zoe having been forced into it, said then you take him if you want him to go…

There is definitely strain between them and strain with Zoe. Maybe as bens seeing the truth now hes not working he’s putting his foot down and changing things…. And maybe that’s why he’s in no rush to get a job because he knows Zoe will just go back to her old ways.
 
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if anything happened to Zoe Ben would easily manage the house and the kids day to day stuff but if anything happen to Ben Zoe would crumble no way she could cope I do hope Ben is seeing her for what she is now he at home all the time
 
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Be nice to see two parents doing the walks etc together. Ben needs to be encouraging Zoe to get out with him to build her confidence and resilience for when he goes back to work.
Propping her up and taking over, will just make her more isolated and vulnerable.
The problem with Jo Cif is Zoe as many have noted.
Come on Zoe, empower yourself, be an example to your girls. What do you really want for your future? You’ve done babies it’s time to wait for the grandchildren.
It is hard to face the end of babies, but life goes on…
You don’t need to set yourself up as a target for criticism. Be strong tell Fem you’ve had enough 😉
Find a hobby that’s not shopping.
Volunteer somewhere, help others and help yourself at the same time.
Re train, study, the world really is your oyster.
Maybe listen to some advice.
 
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Zoe, you are an absolute fool. If you were that worried about him not coping with school you would have at least been there for his first visits, you useless excuse for a mother! It's an opportunity to meet teachers and ask for meetings to explain these so called "triggers" that you harp on about. You like the idea of homeschooling, so why do you do NOTHING educational at home with the kids? Do you not realise it's not only down to schools to teach children?? bleeping idiot. Couldn't even spend 45 minutes at the school with him. Can't use having Florence with you as an excuse, I always had to take at least 2 or 3 kids to those taster sessions and I always did it alone. What a lazy prick.

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I'm glad Ben took him though, he definitely parents more. Zoe would have heard Joseph say he didn't want to go in and that would have been the end of it, and excuse to go straight home to HER safe space with her plastic avalanche of tat.
I think Pat would have made it worse, worked up and not want to stay. So glad Ben took him at least he does more with him. Also glad Flo was told no she couldn’t go. I wonder if they’re full in nursery as doing some half days would prep him full time.
 
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View attachment 2818491 if anything happened to Zoe Ben would easily manage the house and the kids day to day stuff but if anything happen to Ben Zoe would crumble no way she could cope I do hope Ben is seeing her for what she is now he at home all the time
Let’s not raise Ben too high on the pedestal. Remember he only goes on the walks to have something to film. Also he edits the vlogs. Both of them rely heavily on their older girls for help with babysitting and household tasks.
 
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At the end of the vlog when the pair are chatting in the kitchen, Ben says that Joseph went well at school and she looks like thunder and says he's very quiet. She won't give him an ounce of encouragement and will be constantly asking him if he wants to go to school, waiting for him to say no. It was funny in the car when Ben said to Joseph "we'll go home now and tell mummy all about it" and Joseph replies "you can". He just doesn't want to talk to her so no wonder he's quiet. How could he be anything else with her as she's used to "cleaning" and "admin" while he's on the ipad.
 
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I think litter picking with the kids at the beach is a nice idea and hope they actually make it a regular thing, but how’s he going to hold his selfie stick, his bin bag and his litter picking stick thing at the same time?
I grew up on an island did them often, school,brownies, guides, youth club, wildlife club, sunday school. Sometimes we raised money sometimes it was just go and do it as an activity that benefited the community. It would be a great thing to do once a month just to do. They go to beaches often enough.
 
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Be nice to see two parents doing the walks etc together. Ben needs to be encouraging Zoe to get out with him to build her confidence and resilience for when he goes back to work.
Propping her up and taking over, will just make her more isolated and vulnerable.
The problem with Jo Cif is Zoe as many have noted.
Come on Zoe, empower yourself, be an example to your girls. What do you really want for your future? You’ve done babies it’s time to wait for the grandchildren.
It is hard to face the end of babies, but life goes on…
You don’t need to set yourself up as a target for criticism. Be strong tell Fem you’ve had enough 😉
Find a hobby that’s not shopping.
Volunteer somewhere, help others and help yourself at the same time.
Re train, study, the world really is your oyster.
Maybe listen to some advice.
Well said, I’m not her biggest fan but since she’s realising no more babies are an option she definitely seems peri menopausal, if you have one baby or 22 like the bloody radfrauds there’s always going to be the time you have to move on, she needs to get out! Don’t think mr Magoo is helping at all, he needs to get a job and let Zoe cope on herown for a while! She drives so could easily do the school run! Come back home to a toddler and a little boy, get some chores done, go for a little walk, ( not to those bloody creepy woods) lunch, nap for the toddler, interact with the school age boy, school run interaction with the kids that have been to school, let them help you prepare dinner, bath/shower for little ones, stop letting your 15 year old act like a parent and do it yourself Zoe!
 
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I watched the school vlog..
Kept laughing because Ben was so positive about Jocif in school, I think even Agnes was but they cut it.
Zoe though made every excuse, like takes him time to process 😂 that’s not asd at all…

On another note, that little boy showed no anxiety about school when in the car. He even said he was going and appeared very happy.

A diagnosis and carers allowance would mean they wouldn’t have the benefit cap and Ben can not work.
 
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Zoe in the car in tonight’s is like she’s in a confessional throwing out all her guilt about Jocif not being able to do things like hold a pencil.

Pen was particularly camp speeded up eating his yoghurt and did anyone else spot him butter a slice of bread, slap a healthy smothering of jam on it then eat it while sorting the kids lunches? We saw your snacky snack Pen!
 
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The size of those cakes he bought 😳 Now I will confess I’m not a big eater but I couldn’t eat one of those in one go, especially not late in the afternoon right before a Chinese. I‘d be vomming. And if my husband had just had 2 stents fitted he’d be lucky if he was getting one once a year, not once a bloody week. That fat, greedy pair take the piss.

Toby was off school, again, this time with a sore foot. Fgs is there ever a week when that family has all the children at school, at once? He was alright to go running round the Co-Op looking for his second treat of the day though. If there was some consistency with their education and their parents actually valued it, then the children might actually enjoy going to school. The little twins seem to love school, probably because the teachers are kinder to them than their own parents.

Zoe has failed JoCif while he’s been at home. She’s allowed him to do as he likes, aka play on screens, because it’s been easier for her. She could have used this year to teach him pencil control but she couldn’t be bothered. How was she going to home school him If her attitude is “he’ll get it someday, but if he doesn’t? Whatever!” The poor kid stands no chance and it’s a good thing that he’s going to school. I hope he stays there.

I wonder what Olivia is going to do with herself? She can’t be at home with Zoe for the rest of her life. They won’t be getting money for her, she won’t be able to sign on just because she wants to. She needs some direction in her life, it’s a shame she won’t get it from her parents.
 
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Their washing machine didn't sound too healthy at the start of the vlog. What a surprise, Zoe immediately changed the subject when Ben mentioned Joseph having a really good day with school yesterday. 🙄 Bet she's chomping at the bit to ask Joseph if school upsets him and if he'll miss her. She called him a SEN child, who even says that?? She's been on too many hashtags. Everything she says about him sounds like typical behaviour for a child his age, especially so for a kid who hasn't been given opportunities to socialise.

"Friday treat" - bet it didn't replace their Friday takeaway.
 
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"We had a good day with J yesterday,didnt we Z".
She completely blanked him(n)

I dont understand why she is saying J has additional needs?
Who has given him this label?The strangers who send her DM's:mad:
Disgraceful that they are monetising and exploiting their kids.
Treating them like a performing monkey,craving media attention on the back of their kids.
We all know where innocent images of kids end up but hey that dont matter to them.

When Butch reads Tattle and negative comments she always deals the mental health card,hoping people will leave her alone



She adores talking into the camera because strangers of the internet are her only friends.

Her NF coat is not a dupe from what she said and they cost over £300🤷‍♀️

Have they had their kitchen hygiene inspection yet:rolleyes:
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The size of those cakes he bought 😳 Now I will confess I’m not a big eater but I couldn’t eat one of those in one go, especially not late in the afternoon right before a Chinese. I‘d be vomming. And if my husband had just had 2 stents fitted he’d be lucky if he was getting one once a year, not once a bloody week. That fat, greedy pair take the piss.

Toby was off school, again, this time with a sore foot. Fgs is there ever a week when that family has all the children at school, at once? He was alright to go running round the Co-Op looking for his second treat of the day though. If there was some consistency with their education and their parents actually valued it, then the children might actually enjoy going to school. The little twins seem to love school, probably because the teachers are kinder to them than their own parents.

Zoe has failed JoCif while he’s been at home. She’s allowed him to do as he likes, aka play on screens, because it’s been easier for her. She could have used this year to teach him pencil control but she couldn’t be bothered. How was she going to home school him If her attitude is “he’ll get it someday, but if he doesn’t? Whatever!” The poor kid stands no chance and it’s a good thing that he’s going to school. I hope he stays there.

I wonder what Olivia is going to do with herself? She can’t be at home with Zoe for the rest of her life. They won’t be getting money for her, she won’t be able to sign on just because she wants to. She needs some direction in her life, it’s a shame she won’t get it from her parents.
Wont dancing queen claim UC in her own name now she is a NEET?
Keep it in the family following in the dreary duo's footsteps
 
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Let’s not raise Ben too high on the pedestal. Remember he only goes on the walks to have something to film. Also he edits the vlogs. Both of them rely heavily on their older girls for help with babysitting and household tasks.
The thing is though - out of the two, Pen is the least useless.
 
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