Whenever I read online comments around criminal cases like this it makes me genuinely scared that some of these people would be allowed to serve on a jury with how quickly they make up their minds based on limited evidence (not basing that on anyone on this thread btw)I can't believe people are vomit reacting this. I also voted unsure. Because as good as the evidence in the PCA is, what's the point of a trial if we're going to decide based on that alone? You've got to test the evidence. That's why it's called a trial.
I hope for his sake that he is guilty as his life is ruined either way. Based on the PCA, whilst a lot is circumstantial - it is a hell of a lot, I am leaning toward him being guilty but am open to my mind being changed at the trial.Whenever I read online comments around criminal cases like this it makes me genuinely scared that some of these people would be allowed to serve on a jury with how quickly they make up their minds based on limited evidence (not basing that on anyone on this thread btw)
I’ve served on a jury and there is sooo much information presented and it isn’t as black and white as you might think! Everyone is entitled to a fair trial
I have similar thoughts, yes there’s evidence but I strongly believe in innocent until proven guilty. I have watched far too many documentaries about people who have spent 20+ years in prison over a crime they didn’t commit. It will all come out over the next year or so and then we can really judge.I voted not sure because of Making A Murderer - he’s probably guilty but there’s strong evidence that he’s also probably not and sometimes I just can’t / don’t want to make up my mind on the limited info I know. Do I think he’s guilty ? Sure. But when it comes to a vote at the moment, I’m really not sure
What’s the evidence of him probably not being guilty?I voted not sure because of Making A Murderer - he’s probably guilty but there’s strong evidence that he’s also probably not and sometimes I just can’t / don’t want to make up my mind on the limited info I know. Do I think he’s guilty ? Sure. But when it comes to a vote at the moment, I’m really not sure
Sorry, I didn’t word it properly, I meant that in making a murderer there was good evidence to suggest he was set up - not BK. I was just using it as an example.What’s the evidence of him probably not being guilty?
As it stands with the information that’s out there i think he’s guilty but obviously we the public only know a small amount of the information. I would need some pretty solid convincing from the defence to explain away some of the evidence, but would always keep an open mind and wanna hear his side of it.
I think one issue with cases like this that really blow up in the media is that every average joe is invested and has an opinion, but a lot of those people don’t usually follow true crime cases and don’t understand how the law works or have many reference points to other crimes etc so they just get hyped up as if it’s some thriller on tv. The kind of people that watched making a murderer cause everyone was talking about it and now think they’re an expert.
If he pleads guilty, there would be a stipulation read in court that would outline what happened. Look at a case like Chris Watts. The prosecutor read out an agreed upon statement of fact detailing what he did and how. It’s pretty standard. And the families would be privy to more info than the public anyhow.I just have a horrible feeling that it won’t reach trial, he will probably take the cowards way out and take his own life leaving the families with no justice and unanswered questions
Ah ok, i get youSorry, I didn’t word it properly, I meant that in making a murderer there was good evidence to suggest he was set up - not BK. I was just using it as an example.
Yes he will, he hasn’t been granted bail.Sorry if this has been answered or is obvious, but will he have to stay in prison now until June?
Someone did share but definitely worth sharing again it’s a good read.An Exclusive Look Inside the Idaho Murders: Part I
In Part I of his investigation, Howard Blum travels to the quaint town of Moscow and reveals new details about the crime—and the manhunt.airmail.news
Just came across this via tiktok, not sure if already shared here
Pretty sure only his attorneys would have access to that info, not him, though generally defendants have a legal right to all of their attorney's notes/discovery. I'd bet there's a restraining order that prevents him from contacting any witnesses, though, and all calls and mail in and out of prisons is monitored and recorded.His request for discovery. Is this pretty standard - anyone know? Point 6 seems terrifying in terms of providing contact details of witnesses. Poor DM.
yes he will stay in jail until JuneSorry if this has been answered or is obvious, but will he have to stay in prison now until June?
one guy he's not a lawyer but he said that it's pretty standard.His request for discovery. Is this pretty standard - anyone know? Point 6 seems terrifying in terms of providing contact details of witnesses. Poor DM.
there is one but for Bryan but it doesn't cover his lawyer. if I'm not mistaken.Pretty sure only his attorneys would have access to that info, not him, though generally defendants have a legal right to all of their attorney's notes/discovery. I'd bet there's a restraining order that prevents him from contacting any witnesses, though, and all calls and mail in and out of prisons is monitored and recorded.
Messed up as it is for the victim, part of the trial process includes the defendant having the right to confront any accuser, and that can include witnesses who identify them in certain instances.
Yes there is an order against BK for him not to contact the victims and their families etc. I think its for 2 yearsPretty sure only his attorneys would have access to that info, not him, though generally defendants have a legal right to all of their attorney's notes/discovery. I'd bet there's a restraining order that prevents him from contacting any witnesses, though, and all calls and mail in and out of prisons is monitored and recorded.
Messed up as it is for the victim, part of the trial process includes the defendant having the right to confront any accuser, and that can include witnesses who identify them in certain instances.
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