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I don't think it looks like her either. It's grainy and I've only seen a few real photos of her but her face looks completely different and her hair looks too dark. The fact they are even trying to see is disgusting though.
I don’t think it’s her either. Their face profiles look different - DM has quite a distinct look. I hope she’s safe and managing to find some peace, in must be absolutely awful for her (and BF).
 
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The media need to leave everyone alone. They were chasing the parents down the road on the day of the affidavit, they have apparently took photos of Dylan outside her home and they have also got video footage of BKs father outside his home whilst he's cleaning 🤦‍♀️ its awful
 
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I feel the media needs to be brought to task. They create panic and lie a lot. The sun and mail need eradicated like the news of the world was. All mainstream media is same and I for 1 do not trust anything they say. The governments need to intervene here and do something. They cause anguish to people. Build people up then destroy them. Anyways sorry to digress. Its an active case and the media need to just print the basics. I'm in UK and this case broke my heart. 4 young lives taken for what we don't know. All the cukoos and psychics putting there bits in. I get all my info from here and read a bit of reddit. I cannot imagine the parents pain. Even BKs parents must be distraught. Maybe more will come out who knows. Are trials quick in USA or will it be years? Sorry for the ramble 😔
 
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They all need to be left alone. People making videos online are caught up in the hype of keeping their views up.
 
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The media need to leave everyone alone. They were chasing the parents down the road on the day of the affidavit, they have apparently took photos of Dylan outside her home and they have also got video footage of BKs father outside his home whilst he's cleaning 🤦‍♀️ its awful
The video of BK's dad is so sad, cleaning up the mess left by the police, wearing a mask to hide his face from the media. It's not the families' faults, they must be in shock too and probably just going through the motions of each day. And you just know the media were probably shouting to him things about Bryan like have they spoken to him or did he do it... Like his dad's going to turn around and say "actually yes I've spoken to him and he said x, y, z" :rolleyes:
 
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The video of BK's dad is so sad, cleaning up the mess left by the police, wearing a mask to hide his face from the media. It's not the families' faults, they must be in shock too and probably just going through the motions of each day. And you just know the media were probably shouting to him things about Bryan like have they spoken to him or did he do it... Like his dad's going to turn around and say "actually yes I've spoken to him and he said x, y, z" :rolleyes:
My heart breaks for his dad. From the traffic stop videos he appeared to be just a proud dad accompanying his son home for Christmas break. That video of him cleaning up his house just made me so sad for him.
 
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i just dont understand what the reason behind him doing this is. Ti me at start seemed like a hit. 4 young lives taken brutally like this. Is he an Incel? Was he goaded to do it? Can't wait to hear why. But I think the spotlight should be on victims right now and leave him to rot. But it's his face everywhere 😔
 
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I’ve just watched an interview with the Kaylee’s Dad who says when Brian was near the house he was close enough to pick up the wifi router. He also says he questioned whether it would have made a difference if they had called 911 straight away and he said no it wasn’t a slow bleed it was very quick they couldn’t have been saved 😢
 
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Anyone watched Emily D Baker's video on the affidavit and court hearing? she is a lawyer so really knows her stuff. She explains things in detail but in normal terms
 
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Anyone watched Emily D Baker's video on the affidavit and court hearing, she is a lawyer so really knows her stuff. She explains things in detail but in normal terms
Oh i loved her content around the Depp Heard trial, i'll have to give this a watch - thanks!
 
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If the police purposely made out that both Dylan and Bethany were asleep to protect them until he was in custody then it makes me think they don’t believe there is a second perpetrator because otherwise they would still be at risk. If paps have been able to track Dylan down and photograph her in public it doesn’t sound like she’s under any kind of witness protection.
I agree that doesn't look like Dylan either.

that's a good point because there is a youtuber that has done a video on Dylan and Dylan's Father too.

I just saw that the warrant for BK's apartment is sealed until March 1, 2023 when they think that they would finally be done with the investigation.


Here's why the search warrant for the Moscow murder suspect's apartment is sealed
Author: Jordy Blaine
Published: 2:20 PM PST January 3, 2023
Updated: 2:20 PM PST January 3, 2023

According to court documents, releasing the search warrant would create serious and imminent threats to law enforcement and could prematurely end the investigation.

SPOKANE, Wash. — Whitman County has sealed the search warrant for University of Idaho student murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's residence at the Steptoe Village Apartments in Pullman.

According to court documents, releasing the search warrant would create serious and imminent threats to law enforcement and could prematurely end the investigation which would cause a threat to public safety.

Releasing the details of the Whitman County search warrant would also risk the personal privacy of witnesses, victims and the victims families.

The court documents will be kept sealed for a limited amount of time. Whitman County estimates that the murder investigation will likely come to a close within two months.

The documents will be sealed until March 1st, 2023

Here's the link

somebody said that in Idaho trials have to happen with 6 months so fingers crossed
Hi @GlassOfBeans, Happy New Year to you and your family and thank you so much for checking on my mom.❤ She has still sick sometimes, I think it's her gallbladder. The doctor at the hospital told her to get it remove through the outpatient surgery. She has been vomiting today and had some diarrhea. Wednesday she sees a kidney specialist and Thursday specialist for the diarrhea. When my mom was in a hospital she had sepsis and I think that she is over the sepsis now, I believe. Today my dad told me that the doctor had told her to use her breathing machine at night that it would help her with her eyes, she was upset by that and her primary care doctor told her the same thing too. She needs to do another sleep study and she will not do it so that she can get another breathing machine.

Back to the case, some people have even pointed out that since Bryan is vegan what is he doing with a leather sheath, they are like it doesn't make any sense. IDK, it's just all so wild to me. That's a valid point. Now, I'm starting to wonder did he really do it. Please don't come for me.😇

There is just one cell tower in the Moscow area. 😏 those pings.

I don't know what the hell a sheath was until this case. I don't fool with knives.
Since I've seen that sealed warrant for Bryan's apartment, I take back that I think that he may be innocent and I also heard that during a livestream that one of the ex boyfriends may have sold Bryan drugs.
 
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I’ve just watched an interview with the Kaylee’s Dad who says when Brian was near the house he was close enough to pick up the wifi router. He also says he questioned whether it would have made a difference if they had called 911 straight away and he said no it wasn’t a slow bleed it was very quick they couldn’t have been saved 😢
I think it was Casey Lytle who spoke about this saying that all 4 of the victims were described as having a "primarily, fatal wound; a single deep wound to the chest", he was speaking about it in terms of not hearing screaming but a stab to the heart would kill you very quickly. I think I read, but I'm not sure that K or M had 54 stab wounds. That wasn't someone just wanting to kill, that was rage/adrenaline taking over. If you've inflicted a fatal wound and silenced your victim, why continue attacking them?
 
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I agree that doesn't look like Dylan either.

that's a good point because there is a youtuber that has done a video on Dylan and Dylan's Father too.

I just saw that the warrant for BK's apartment is sealed until March 1, 2023 when they think that they would finally be done with the investigation.


Here's why the search warrant for the Moscow murder suspect's apartment is sealed
Author: Jordy Blaine
Published: 2:20 PM PST January 3, 2023
Updated: 2:20 PM PST January 3, 2023

According to court documents, releasing the search warrant would create serious and imminent threats to law enforcement and could prematurely end the investigation.

SPOKANE, Wash. — Whitman County has sealed the search warrant for University of Idaho student murder suspect Bryan Kohberger's residence at the Steptoe Village Apartments in Pullman.

According to court documents, releasing the search warrant would create serious and imminent threats to law enforcement and could prematurely end the investigation which would cause a threat to public safety.

Releasing the details of the Whitman County search warrant would also risk the personal privacy of witnesses, victims and the victims families.
The court documents will be kept sealed for a limited amount of time. Whitman County estimates that the murder investigation will likely come to a close within two months.

The documents will be sealed until March 1st, 2023

Here's the link



Since I've seen that sealed warrant for Bryan's apartment, I take back that I think that he may be innocent and I also heard that during a livestream that one of the ex boyfriends may have sold Bryan drugs.
Thanks for posting. I always get access denied when I click on these links. Maybe because I'm in UK?
 
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I haven't commented before but have been following the threads from the start. Can I ask why people think DM hid/slept in her room all night once she locked the door? Have they confirmed that?

From reading the PCA to me it sounds like she went elsewhere afterwards. They have said she originally went to sleep in her room, phone records from DM and BF suggest the murders took place between 4 and 4.25am. To me the use of the word originally implies she went elsewhere after and that BF was possibly awake messaging DM. I personally think DM went downstairs to BF at 4.25 and that's when their messages ended. They originally said the 2 surviving housemates were on the ground floor and I think part of that was true but they withheld the info about DM being originally upstairs in order to protect her.
 
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I haven't commented before but have been following the threads from the start. Can I ask why people think DM hid/slept in her room all night once she locked the door? Have they confirmed that?

From reading the PCA to me it sounds like she went elsewhere afterwards. They have said she originally went to sleep in her room, phone records from DM and BF suggest the murders took place between 4 and 4.25am. To me the use of the word originally implies she went elsewhere after and that BF was possibly awake messaging DM. I personally think DM went downstairs to BF at 4.25 and that's when their messages ended. They originally said the 2 surviving housemates were on the ground floor and I think part of that was true but they withheld the info about DM being originally upstairs in order to protect her.
Where have you seen the phone records between them?
 
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I haven't commented before but have been following the threads from the start. Can I ask why people think DM hid/slept in her room all night once she locked the door? Have they confirmed that?

From reading the PCA to me it sounds like she went elsewhere afterwards. They have said she originally went to sleep in her room, phone records from DM and BF suggest the murders took place between 4 and 4.25am. To me the use of the word originally implies she went elsewhere after and that BF was possibly awake messaging DM. I personally think DM went downstairs to BF at 4.25 and that's when their messages ended. They originally said the 2 surviving housemates were on the ground floor and I think part of that was true but they withheld the info about DM being originally upstairs in order to protect her.
This definitely makes sense. It's just speculation that she hid or slept because no one knows.

My only question with your theory, which isn't specific to your theory, would be if she left her room and went downstairs to B, would she not have noticed blood? The PCA doesn't state anything about whether the person she saw had blood on him BUT you've just stabbed 4 people to death, there's blood on you. Unless he was wearing some kind of overalls/shoe covers which he took off and left at the scene (Xana's room), but that would be very risky for him, then there's no way there wasn't blood on him/his shoes that possibly left a trail on the floor. I totally think it's plausible D messaged B and went to her, I would just question how she didn't see blood in this instance. In some of the photos from the inside of the house, you can even see blood on the cabinets in the kitchen, but perhaps she just didn't look around and had tunnel vision to B's room 🤷‍♀️

Where have you seen the phone records between them?
No one has seen the phone records. The info mentioned here is in the PCA.

"The combination of DM's statements to law enforcement, reviews of forensic downloads of records from BF and DM's phone, and video of a suspect video described below leads investigators to believe the homicides occurred between 4am and 4.25am"
 
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This definitely makes sense. It's just speculation that she hid or slept because no one knows.

My only question with your theory, which isn't specific to your theory, would be if she left her room and went downstairs to B, would she not have noticed blood? The PCA doesn't state anything about whether the person she saw had blood on him BUT you've just stabbed 4 people to death, there's blood on you. Unless he was wearing some kind of overalls/shoe covers which he took off and left at the scene (Xana's room), but that would be very risky for him, then there's no way there wasn't blood on him/his shoes that possibly left a trail on the floor. I totally think it's plausible D messaged B and went to her, I would just question how she didn't see blood in this instance. In some of the photos from the inside of the house, you can even see blood on the cabinets in the kitchen, but perhaps she just didn't look around and had tunnel vision to B's room 🤷‍♀️


No one has seen the phone records. The info mentioned here is in the PCA.

"The combination of DM's statements to law enforcement, reviews of forensic downloads of records from BF and DM's phone, and video of a suspect video described below leads investigators to believe the homicides occurred between 4am and 4.25am"

Oh okay! I took that statement to mean that that is when the rest of the roommates stopped replying. So there was messaging on the group chat or texting all night until a certain time (probably around 4am when Xana was getting food delivered. She probably messaged asking if anyone wanted anything etc.) and after that it went quiet from the now dead roommates. The audio that picked up X's room was at 4:17 I think so I assume they predict that's when she was killed?

Also I agree with you. For her to have got downstairs she would need to have passed X's room. There was also a footprint or some semblance of something outside her door. Also would she not have woken BF up? Or if they have been talking BF would have still been awake. I can square D not doing anything but I find it harder to believe that both of them opted to just stay downstairs. Strength in numbers and all of that. Unless they truly didn't think anything but then she'd have to have passed it.
 
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