The Ingham Family #288 The Inghams wanted Turkish delight, but instead discussed farting on the flight

Abbvay · Jun 4, 2023

She's just setting it up to blame Jace for why he can't read, write or do anything age appropriate when people question why he's behind as he gets older. It's not her fault, she's put sooooo much time and effort into educating her chuldren, he just won't do it.

She will also use it to try to justify why homeschool is better for him. He learns at his own pace, he wouldn't be ready for school and would be left behind, he doesn't learn from traditional methods that they would do in school. When really she can't say if any of that is true because he's never been given a chance to properly learn anything.

She's so inconsistent, just getting out activities when she feels like it, constantly changing the activity so he's never getting used to rules of the games or the concept she's wittering on about. Never applies numbers or colours to real world situations, only within the set activity so it has no meaning to him. Most of his time is spent in the house (when not on holiday) so he's also probably bored of the whole environment he's in, so won't be in the mood to learn anything. Things like parks and swimming only happen on holiday. No library visits, no museums, no other children, no routine at all and allowed to do what he wants, eat what he wants, nap when he wants.

The stuff she does is more on a level that my just turned 2 year old would do, which is probably about right given that Mila is almost 2 and is rapidly catching up to Jace if not ahead with some things. There are always matching games at playgroup and the toddlers like them, at story time at the library they always do lots of counting and talking about the colours in the books.

vhopper2000 · Jun 4, 2023

#289 Chris had a plan to sell his van to an ifam, it got a ban, it was a scam!!!!

Charlotte1993 · Jun 4, 2023

Abbvay said:
She's just setting it up to blame Jace for why he can't read, write or do anything age appropriate when people question why he's behind as he gets older. It's not her fault, she's put sooooo much time and effort into educating her chuldren, he just won't do it.

She will also use it to try to justify why homeschool is better for him. He learns at his own pace, he wouldn't be ready for school and would be left behind, he doesn't learn from traditional methods that they would do in school. When really she can't say if any of that is true because he's never been given a chance to properly learn anything.

She's so inconsistent, just getting out activities when she feels like it, constantly changing the activity so he's never getting used to rules of the games or the concept she's wittering on about. Never applies numbers or colours to real world situations, only within the set activity so it has no meaning to him. Most of his time is spent in the house (when not on holiday) so he's also probably bored of the whole environment he's in, so won't be in the mood to learn anything. Things like parks and swimming only happen on holiday. No library visits, no museums, no other children, no routine at all and allowed to do what he wants, eat what he wants, nap when he wants.

The stuff she does is more on a level that my just turned 2 year old would do, which is probably about right given that Mila is almost 2 and is rapidly catching up to Jace if not ahead with some things. There are always matching games at playgroup and the toddlers like them, at story time at the library they always do lots of counting and talking about the colours in the books.

I totally agree most early stage number and colour recognition books are hard board books for toddlers with big pictures like a big red apple so the child can recognise the image and colour the same with numbers like three cars and the like.
We used to do a book with a hundred pictures with my nephew all the time and he leaned all the words and colours from spending a fun time together with no pressure so he loved bringing his book and pointing it all out and getting praise for it.
He used a fun abacus and also little frogs for counting we’d put three frogs and he would make another three frogs hop over and count them he didn’t know he was learning counting it was a game. Lazy just doesn’t have a clue she’s more interested in buying a shit load of crap thinking the more she spends the more it will help Jason but it won’t because you don’t need any of that stuff and it can also make it harder all she needed was a bowl of beads and some fun quality time together and a few easy learning books it’s not that hard kids are like a sponge.
Jason loves cars and he has a lot of them they would be a great tool eg three cars are in the garage to be fixed if we add three more cars how many will be in your garage now oh look two are ready to go take two out how many are left now make it fun he’s four

GeordieGossipGirl · Jun 4, 2023

And this moron Minghams is why they need to be safety tested. Because even though you bang on about them being a collectable there will be someone who thinks they are toys and give them to a baby, if an eye came off and they choked, they could report you for negligence, I don't know why we bother tbh because you wouldn't care unless it was you.

Badirene · Jun 4, 2023

Isn't Esme the one they claim doesn't wash her hands after using the toilet? But she is crafting and selling stuff made with those manky hands

Enjoy your new crochet frog and salmonella folks.

Priority education · Jun 4, 2023

I’ve been transported back decades. Rose-spaniel filled her post surgery baby-grow with runny this morning. Her tail and furry bottom were covered. She’s now cleaned up and it’s dry just need to get her back in it.

They need a design change with back legs which would leave the working bits exposed,

Ruby2233 · Jun 4, 2023

I highly doubt this is a teacher, however, I’d be extremely concerned if a child exploitation supporter, spewing such bullsh*t, had anything to do with the education of my young child.

becca7721 · Jun 4, 2023

Bottom line is Sarah and Chris never bothered to mature and grew up.
That can, from thegreencow run downs alone, be seen every day. Not to mention in the way they engage online.

They should never have been allowed to home school once covid restrictions ended; the girls were already rapidly falling behind in school because of the constant holidays during term time and unauthorised time off. Constant holidays and excitement for them is something you expect of a child, not an adult, because adults work and take responsibility for providing for their family, true family life is tiring, so holidays are a break from that, a time to recharge. However, Sarah and Chris have zero routine, all they care about is lazy around on ‘holiday’.

In my experience all learning is done via experience combined with ‘book learning’, yes adults too. I had most success when teaching medical professionals when I tapped into their interests and then planned their lesson around those interests, e.g. i had a student who was renovating a 40s war vehicle, so I got him to make linked databases of all the different parts - prior to that he had failed every MS access exam. Its the same for children BUT it takes a lot of time and effort to do and Sarah cannot be bothered.

Randomer8269 · Jun 4, 2023

jkroche95 said:
I'd rather my toddler ate a full pack of blueberries instead of half the stuff Jace eats!

True but why does it need to be eaten in such a large quantity, especially for a 4 year old? Having such excessive amounts of fruit can’t be good either. Just shows they don’t get meals that are filling enough

yazoo21 · Jun 4, 2023

MissWinnie said:
Why does she still try and maintain that lie. The first few things she shows are all widely available on Google - she may not have used a pattern step by step but she’s not thought of a single one of those soft toys on her own

Aww come on she’s just a child even tho she won’t get half of that money she makes on them I don’t see the point of selling them.

Farblegargoyles · Jun 4, 2023

The Mingham family's latest Facebook 'short' features Mila being coerced into laughing and giggling ( basically being pimped out yet again for being 'cute' ). What struck me was the red, mottled appearance of the skin on her face. It certainly isn't excema and there isn't any discernable rash - as someone else pointed out it looks like permanent damage from the wilful neglect shown to her as a little baby on their Arctic trip. A quick glance at a few articles regarding windburn, frostbite and extreme temperatures clearly explains that babies and young children should not be exposed to minus temperatures without a thick layer of barrier cream on their faces and even at that the exposure should be kept to a minimum.

We all saw Mila's poor red face, day after day after day. Not one shit was given for the safety and well-being of that lovely, uncomplaining baby on that horror story of a trip in the death trap van. What is wrong with these people?

Emzykins · Jun 4, 2023

Sarah is so fucking arrogant when it comes to her kid’s education!!! Jace is the same age as my daughter and when she says “oh if he was at nursery it would just be play anyway”?! Sarah my daughter goes to nursery full time while I’m at work. It is not just play!!! If that’s all you think of early year’s education then you need help! Jace won’t learn f all with your shit half hearted “activities”. He needs to socialise with children his age!!

Also, regardless of Isabelle being there, those kids should not have been left alone!!

Puppet · Jun 4, 2023

yazoo21 said:
Aww come on she’s just a child even tho she won’t get half of that money she makes on them I don’t see the point of selling them.

Yes she's just a child, but there's nothing wrong with @MissWinnie comment. She shouldn't get any money for them as she shouldn't be selling them. It's a safety nightmare that could have devastating consequences. No one has a problem with Esme making them, in fact many have said it's a good thing as at least she's keeping herself busy. But she's trying to pretend she makes them without using a pattern or any other outside influences, claiming it's all off the top of her head, which is a complete lie. The crafters who make patterns or share tutorials spend time writing / filming, and hours testing to see if they work. For Esme to claim she just creates these toys without help is devaluing the work of those who spend time creating the designs she's copying, not to mention selling the designs is most likely against the terms of sale from those who sell the patterns. as most are sold for personal use only.

Emzykins · Jun 4, 2023

Just catching up with last nights shit show. The pins and needles and numbness is a huge red flag. How she isn’t getting herself checked is beyond me.

Also does she not realise after 5 pregnancies that the cysts can be totally common. When you ovulate the ovary can become a cyst. They usually vanish before you give birth. Take that from someone who had the same thing while going through fertility treatment. I saw my ovaries monthly and cysts are common according to doctors.

yuza · Jun 4, 2023

Emzykins said:
Sarah is so fucking arrogant when it comes to her kid’s education!!! Jace is the same age as my daughter and when she says “oh if he was at nursery it would just be play anyway”?! Sarah my daughter goes to nursery full time while I’m at work. It is not just play!!! If that’s all you think of early year’s education then you need help! Jace won’t learn f all with your shit half hearted “activities”. He needs to socialise with children his age!!

Also, regardless of Isabelle being there, those kids should not have been left alone!!

What’s ironic is that Lazy says she homeschools because she doesn’t agree with what schools do. So if she thinks all nursery’s do is play, then why is she letting Jace do the same? If he’s doing the same at home as she thinks he would in nursery then why doesn’t she send him.
FYI Lazy, all my children that are currently in nursery can all sound out phonics, write their names and hold a pen correctly. I’m sure they didn’t learn that through play. Nursery practitioners need a pay rise for all they do for our children, setting them up ready for school and life. Poor Jace will never get that opportunity.

Basic · Jun 4, 2023

Priority education said:
Collectibles who has written this? Spelling ain’t on the agenda at Lazy’s school.
Worked ‘hard and long’

Sounds like the Creep has attempted to make it sound like Esme has written it. Thick as pig shit that man.

Emzykins · Jun 4, 2023

yuza said:
What’s ironic is that Lazy says she homeschools because she doesn’t agree with what schools do. So if she thinks all nursery’s do is play, then why is she letting Jace do the same? If he’s doing the same at home as she thinks he would in nursery then why doesn’t she send him.
FYI Lazy, all my children that are currently in nursery can all sound out phonics, write their names and hold a pen correctly. I’m sure they didn’t learn that through play. Nursery practitioners need a pay rise for all they do for our children, setting them up ready for school and life. Poor Jace will never get that opportunity.

Spot on. My daughter is the same! She can spell and count to 50 (she seemed so proud he could count to 20 as if he’s the only kid who ever has). Like you say, our children haven’t learnt this from play!!

whatamess123 · Jun 4, 2023

Puppet said:
You're right, many people get away with it, but quite often that's because a lot of it flies under the radar and is difficult to prove, for example selling toys at local craft sales and pop up events. Where as Esme is selling online with a bigger audience and there will be proof of their lack of compliance / no safety testing. It helps if the appropriate people know about it and are given the evidence rather than having to investigate and find those selling dangeous products. They may not always go after people, but being given the evidence with no need to do any leg work will make it much more likely that something is done. So I encourage all Tattlers to report, just imagine if a young child was given one or a small baby, people die because of the lack of saftey testing.

I also wonder if Esme will be declaring the money made...

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I`ve just googled this subject ,as i was wondering how much teens can make ,what rules and regulations etc they need to follow. About what they make ,i came across this ,and ,yep ,they DO have to be CE marked!
Can`t seem to find out much about their actual earnings though ,if there`s a limit etc?
ETA yep ,there is.It`s the same rules as for adults.However ,we know these scammers will never declare anything their daughter earns ,probably will go straight into their bank account ,and they`ll tell her they`ll "take care of it" for her...

Behelzabobs · Jun 4, 2023

Basic said:
I can’t believe Lazy filmed Jace “sharing” the blueberries. He is such a spoilt horrible child. He’s also probably bored and frustrated spending all of his time with his baby sister. There are two parents at home, split the kids up, take him for a walk or to the park one on one. For crying out loud, take him and Prinny for a daily walk!

Jace had become reluctant to sit down and “learn”. He’s only recently turned four. He doesn’t need to do structured learning and he’s probably bored out of his mind with the same seven thousand colour and number recognition ‘tools’ Lazy buys and prints off.

For number and letter recognition you should incorporate learning into real life situations. Take him to the supermarket, get him to pick up six apples and a bunch of bananas. Teach him to read the price signs. If he pulls out a number puzzle during play, get down on his level and make a game out of it. Count the stairs as you walk up and down. It’s not bloody rocket science.

Oh my God, she’s doing the exact same sticking and labelling she’s been doing since she started “schooling” the kid. Let him stick and write the numbers on, that would engage him and help with dexterity. It’s like she’s decided she’s a nursery teacher but hasn’t got a bloody clue.

I would never have left my under two year old alone standing on a platform. If she’s eating, she should be sat down with her mother or father, not left to her own devices standing on a toddler platform at the kitchen counter over a tiled floor. In a few short months they are bringing a sixth child into this mess.

They shouldn’t be scalding Isabelle on camera for not washing up her dishes but there should be routine where the older children have chores and the dishes should be included in that. When there are that many kids in a family, the parents need routine. If they had routine, they wouldn’t need to constantly complain that the kids are as lazy, when it comes to tidying up their own mess, as their mother is.

She has learned basic crochet and is able to copy what she sees being made on TikTok/YouTube. She likely isn’t following a pattern per se but can do it by eye. What she is making are very simple items. Good for her.

It could be a huge learning experience for her to be taught how a business is run. She’s at exactly the right age to introduce that kind of learning. However, it would mean that the incapable parents would have to learn in order to teach her, and guide her in finding the information she would need. One of my kids wants to do this (not with crochet items) and I’m willing and able to put in the time, effort and money to facilitate it. This is where the Ingham adults fall flat.

Everything you say is so spot on, I was looking (briefly) at that clip of Jace and Mila and thought good god they are bringing another baby into this absolute shit show, it’s clear they are extremely lazy where the children’s education is concerned in fact they are extremely lazy with Jace and Mila full stop, it’s always the absolute minimum amount of effort with them both with Jace maybe getting more than Mila, they seem to think that faffing about, running away ( adventures) is all you need, wandering aimlessly in another country makes up for even basic parenting, I remember being in a care case conference where two children were being discussed around Jaces age and the Guardian said “ good enough parenting just isn’t enough” and this sums them up
They think endless tat and mooching round other countries living their stupid ‘ one life live it’ is okay when the end result is emotionally damaged children with no basic education to get through life being made to perform like seals for a pervert and his enabler

And again this is no slight on real home educators as I don’t consider any of those Ingham children home educated in any shape or form

yazoo21 · Jun 4, 2023

Puppet said:
Yes she's just a child, but there's nothing wrong with @MissWinnie comment. She shouldn't get any money for them as she shouldn't be selling them. It's a safety nightmare that could have devastating consequences. No one has a problem with Esme making them, in fact many have said it's a good thing as at least she's keeping herself busy. But she's trying to pretend she makes them without using a pattern or any other outside influences, claiming it's all off the top of her head, which is a complete lie. The crafters who make patterns or share tutorials spend time writing / filming, and hours testing to see if they work. For Esme to claim she just creates these toys without help is devaluing the work of those who spend time creating the designs she's copying, not to mention selling the designs is most likely against the terms of sale from those who sell the patterns. as most are sold for personal use only.

Blame the parents

The Ingham Family #288 The Inghams wanted Turkish delight, but instead discussed farting on the flight

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