The Chateau Diaries #11 Shat o shenanigans

[Fuzzypeg]

Sadly I think you are wrong, Patreon is a membership fee in exchange for content ?
people can see her lifestyle and yet willingly join patreon. Absolute madness but it’s not illegal, it’s Patreon that needs to be closed down! Patreon is immoral, the more money is donated the larger their 5% cut.

Her super fans are quite frighteningly stupid .

 

[Heathcliffe]

There was never a mindless pleasure phase for me, but there were episodes I enjoyed. Mostly the tours of the rooms and garden. I hadn't ever seen ETTC so I had no idea there was already a bitchy mummy narrative. I didn't dislike her dynamic with her mother, but in a lot of the episodes I first watched, it's only the two of them and they work well together trading the camera back and forth. They have a schtick. Isabelle's camera work wasn't even bad for a 70 something. She's better than Billy Petherick is right now in some of those early videos, probably because she's lighter on her feet. I was paying attention to things like that. Also who was uncomfortable being on camera, how SJ was often able to put them at ease. I never once thought "oh she's poor," I just thought it was a great idea. A giant coffeehouse that's also a bar and a bnb. But then I always go through a phase where I like something, it blows up online, and then I go looking for who hates it. Who has really decided, "Oooo this bitch..." and I always find them, and it's usually all women and a Heathcliffe or two (but usually gay ones, so I appreciate that he watches because he wants to fuck her.) Then I read everything and decide if these newly famous people have done anything unforgiveable, or I keep watching and wait for them to do something unforgiveable. That usually doesn't happen though. They just hire more people, their lives become more opaque, more commercialized, and then they move onto something else. By that time I've already moved on too, and I read about it six months later. I'm really an unfan of everything at heart. My friends hate my Anthony Bourdain speculations, but I think the worst of everyone even when I have an actual celebrity crush. I could never put my energy into to hate watching anything, but I like reading the perspectives of people who do.

Always interesting to see two sides, the love AND the hate. However, in spite of some harsh commentry here on Tattle, I would not say there is a lot of pure hate...we are more like kids that got a gift for Christmas but had to pick it appart to see how it works, and then never managed to properly put it together again! What drew me here initially was the witty comments and yes, the fact that I found the Lady without a lake a bit of a fox. I searched for all things about the Chatelaine as my interest peaked after TV show, but now all I am left with is occasionally watching the vlog...and more so looking at Tattle for entertainment. Amazing what our agents can provide of information after a bit of digging, quite impressive!

 

[ComtesseRose]

As for the latest ‘donation’ for a scholarship to a fashion pupil - why doesn’t the money go to something worthwhile in South Africa- like sponsoring a student to become a doctor, nurse, optician?

I feel quite ambivalent about this one, yes, SJ maybe would like to consider herself a patron of fashion and art; and yes, a scholarship like that would probably bring a difference for a student, and isn't the school in South Africa?
That being said, I'm sad and surprised, she doesn't do something for the local community. I believe homelessness is a big issue in France - maybe more in Paris than anywhere else - but the point is still there. If you want to change the world start in your local community...

I do find it remarkable that SJ now 'speaks' in public too about what's written here. That for sure is a change in tactics.

I think she used MPK's vlog to finally sound off what she has been wanting to do for a long time, without having to "get her hands dirty". i.e. metioning this site on her own platforms.

 

[NotAChatelaine]

With every day that passes, and every subliminal - and sometimes overt - rattling of the e-begging bowl, done with little thought to the ethics of gulling money out of ardent followers, it becomes clearer and clearer that Tinkerbell Jarvis and the whole of the Trotter clan are suffering from an advanced case of Pernicious Avarice. This toxic affliction has infected others who think they smell the coffee roses of "easy money" and that, by association with SJ and her questionable success, they get to have the cake, eat it and gorge on the icing as well.

Greed is not good.

 

[Rory]

OK Sorry Thanks Jeeves Sometimes when messages run together I get confused. BTW Just saw Series 5 Ep 2 of ETTC - I mentioned recently they are repeating it over and over as a hook to view ECCT DIY starting soon (not been seen before in Oz) It was the episode with the 2 guys getting married and Angel is swanning around in her kimona putting blossom in vases and inventing a "blossom cocktail" - She is showing the wait staff how to make the cocktail (several of the waiters and waitresses standing around being instructed) and there front and centre is MP. I don't know whether he was a guest at his gay friends' wedding or just helping out or moonlighting for wages. There was no sign of SJ so she obviously didn't get an invite - and she'd turn up for the opening of a gas bill (apologies to whoever penned that dig at one of the Royals - the blonde older German one)

Hi FrannyBee, Angel & Dick's chateau is close to the Trotters. Michael was definitely hired to do artistic work on golf cart and to paint the inner tower which has pictures of the Strawbridge family. It took him 12 months. They are very careful not to show the tower paintings in any of the 7 seasons as it is so contenious. Michael also did a sketch or contributed to a sketch Angel made into wallpaper to sell. Michael has received no public or private copywrite credits. He commented about this on youtube comments. I think Michael was acting as staff for filming. I suspect that the bad blood between Michael and Angel contributed to Trotters being dumped from ETTCDIY.

 

[Heathcliffe]

I’ve only just found this thread! Can someone give me a very very quick update on the various Characters? I loved “the chateau” series. I remember Stephanie (with the French mum and step dad “Percy”). Is this thread about her?

This is Stephanie Jarvis's not very official fan page. We exchange pleasantries.

 

[Linus]

Maybe Michael should be busy counting his blessings instead of moaning about his past faulty decisions and inability to avoid ’laughable’ forums. He lives in a mansion, with his family, surrounded by God knows how many acres of beautiful land, has a job (which he should treat as one) filming whatever he wants, whenever he wants, has a growing YouTube channel (with a good share of luck) and people are continually sending him money to do that. In times of pandemic, which he seems too sheltered to notice, his depression is portrayed with a lack of sensitivity that is quite frankly astonishing for a man of his age.

 

[witchgrass]

When they fired them and cancelled their appearance on ETTC they probably weren’t expecting them to have a audience this large to tell the story to.

 

[Mrs O]

#913 Mrs P & #917 stepahnieee

Couldn’t agree more with you both. I came her by accident, looking for other things, and this popped up so I began reading comments. They answered so much which had been bothering me as #913 & #917 stated.

I confess I do watch the vlogs but don’t subscribed anymore (did originally to help with restoration) but now I make sure I’m unsubscribed on YT. I watch to see if there really are any true restorations happening, unfortunately not!

As for the ‘gift’ channel I was at first amused but now I’m disgusted that people would send so much food, expensive items, tat and even family heirlooms (cutlery items). Why don’t they donate to their local charities - the ‘heirlooms’ could have been given to a charity for them to auction. We must all see so many deserving causes that need help and people from all around the world send things to a privileged rich woman! The supporters would say that the ‘gift’ YT raises money for charity - fine but the chateau owner is taking all the praise .... not the donators! As for the latest ‘donation’ for a scholarship to a fashion pupil - why doesn’t the money go to something worthwhile in South Africa- like sponsoring a student to become a doctor, nurse, optician? Of course the Saint that is offering the money will be praised for this as its in HER name. Sorry this has rambled on but hopefully people who send the gifts might read it and realise how foolish they have been.

 

[Princess and the Pea]

Re upgrading the heating, this was discussed with Davy the garden planner and there was mention of need to put an extra feed into the borehole of the germothernal heating as it is not storing enough heat. Not sure of all the technical terns but I believe it is in the plans.
Ref none of the projects being finished, to be fair there seems to be delays with external contractors such as guy supposed to be doing the repair to the terrace and the shutter dogs. It seems to be a problem in France I remember Dock and Angel had similar problem However not just a problem in France I have been waiting months for chap who is supposed to be repairing my garden shed.

I remind you that she has owned the chateau for 15 years. She owns a flat in London which she sporadically rents out on airbnb instead of properly renting it out as she needs it as a pied a terre for her many trips back there. She has holidayed in Venice, Vietnam, Cape Town, Greece etc & has made multiple trips to London. She spends a fortune on tat. She has not had a job since leaving University. She has had free labour from workaways. She has been in receipt of funds from the advertising revenue generated by her Youtube account & paetron cash now. At what point should she have stopped living like a bum & expect other people to work for nothing, pay her to post some videos and all for her to swan off on holiday?

Trotter has a new video up traveling hours to go stay in another shato - hello coveeeed

So dan the man has now hidden his patron amount. Wonder how long till SJ do the same.

and roadkill girl has now hidden all her videos on YouTube. Though for some reason she still earn more than someView attachment 387419

Go Marie. Run like the wind.

 

[Incognito Chatelaine]

I just looked at some of the workaway photos and videos, and she was hardly abusing anyone with over work. I'm going to guess the llama farm and the sustainable orchard require more actual labor than dinner and dishes at a chateau.

Well, people know what they sign up for and are free to leave whenever they wish... unless a host has been blatantly lying!

However, I would like to burst the bubble on this concept of workawayers being exploited... of course, some are, but I would say a large percentage are freeloaders, especially when it comes to helping someone in their home. The ECO farms do not tolerate laziness or freeloaders, but those who are disabled, injured, or undergoing treatment for cancer, are the hosts who are most at risk of being exploited.

We have had some volunteers who were excellent and honest but we have also had unfortunate hosts having to deal with people who literally brought bag loads of washing and took over the home. One elderly lady was in her bedroom when I rang because she didn't feel comfortable in her own living room whilst the workaway couple were there. They were lazy, dirty, had the oven on twice a day, and used up all of her wood reserves for her wood burner. There are other assholes who would bully a vulnerable host, but you get the drift. I would say that about 45% are freeloaders or grifters; that's just my opinion. The problem with workaway is that a bad reference reflects badly on everyone, so people are loathe to give them, they rather give no reference. We look for additional references if we need someone for a vulnerable host, and we phone every day to check that things are okay, but we still have to be alert.

I would say that Philip joined Lalande to help his career (as did Tomaz) but he certainly had no intention of doing any demanding physical labour. If SSB was true to form, she didn't pick him for his restoration skills either, so this is probably a match made in heaven - or hell - depending which way you look at it!

 

[Princess and the Pea]

For someone who has been on this forum for five days, you have consistently displayed a singular lack of social awareness and the ability to read the tone in which you are perceived by your audience. I suspect this is an area of life you find challenging. Now who does that remind me of?

Seem to be a few newbies who are a bit too ready to jump to the Queen of the Bedchamber's defence ..or am I getting paranoid?

 

[Definitely Maybe]

So I have some small tea, I follow a youtube channel called 'Curiosity Incorporated' . It's about a guy who runs an antique shop in Edmonton Canada and he likes to buy hoarder houses, and /or their contents. I was watching his latest video, which was streamed live 13 hours ago, and the chat replay was showing. Guess who was joining in the chat ? Our very own Jill Scott in New Zealand !

 

[Incognito Chatelaine]

Can I just bring some attention to SSB's comment that people who had been guests at her chateau had been bullied, including those who had not been in the vlogs? I joined in December, so I am not familiar with all of the content in the threads, but I have never seen anyone encourage bullying of her guests, nor have I read any tattler discuss it one way or the other. Discuss them, yes, bullying, no. This is something we consider beyond the pale, surely? So is this a blatant lie on her part?

Perhaps she is alluding to the comments on Facebook about the Christmas breach of covid recommendations? Ironic how she worded that to make it sound as though tattlers were in the wrong, and not the group of people who spat in the eye of all those separated from their love ones at Christmas.

There is a very dark side to this woman indeed.

 

[Clara Burnett]

just waiting for Clara to spill more beans

Oh if I can I will In the meantime, my revelations from MP's facebook yesterday got me expelled from Facebook, more proof that they are reading here too and are trying to do some damage control which in turn speaks to their guilt, right? Or their annoyance...

 

[484858282]

Does anybody feel the same nausea coming up seeing how very clever SJ operates? She leaves it to MPK to complain about the gossip getting too close to the truth in a video he was going to do about his collision with D&A. The two things are absolutely not connected, but because he mentioned it in his vlog, she can pretend to be the friend she's supposed to be by commenting "We're in this together", a flagrant lie because she's still very much in business wit ETTC, obviously. All fans are now warned there are stories out about her and not to believe them, without her having to talk about it on any of her channels. Out of pity, the gift sending will now probably explode.

Ever since I rewatched that video where she very clearly lied when she thanked the patrons for sending her money so that could, “finally buy food and pay the bills”, I have never been able to look at her the same. Because after that, it has become so easy for me to spot all the lies and manipulation from her end.

The lies that came out of her mouth during that video, are akin to someone pulling up to a food bank in a rolls royce, wearing designer gear from head to toe and having the audacity to say, “Thank you so much, because of this food bank I’ll finally be able to eat!”

To add insult to injury, she made those comments at the start of the pandemic. When so many people were actually struggling financially and wondering how the hell they were going to put food on the table. Beggar’s belief!

 

[Mrs O]

I watched MPs vlog before I came to this tonight and I did feel a slight pang of sympathy for him - until I realised that he has had a good ‘living’ out of his few vlogs this year and his gofundme and patreon account etc. In a time (as several people have mentioned) during a worldwide pandemic, where lives have been lost, businesses bankrupted and hundreds of thousands of people out of work and others penniless!

He is bitter about losing out on both credit and royalties for his work but, as we all should do, he should have read the small print! It is possible that his unnamed ex-employers have taken advantage but it’s too late now and he should move on before this completely overwhelmes him. He is young and talented and should use that to move forward. There is a market out there for unusual and well designed goods and he should tap into that.

Just to clarify, to other tattlers, I think it was more than one design that he created for his ex-employers - I think at least one other was the heron design.

 

[Heathcliffe]

I don't think he's creepy, but he is kind of insidious. I'm having trouble thinking of a time when he wasn't there. He's providing a legendary laugh track.


He doesn't sound like a donkey when he laughs in the opposite direction so I don't get it either. It's like listening to someone hold in a sneeze.

I'm starting to really like Prince Snortalot He is quite unapologetically snorting loudly and giving people a piece of his mind. He is funny, quick witted, eccentric, rolls his eyes like my teenage son, and setting tables is about as far as the talent pushes him. Cleverly he gets out of cooking by not giving a flying monkey's and just pour on the vinegar. He must stay. Selmar gets on well with him, the LOTML needs him, he is like her little escort/court jester.

 

[Lululime]

He obviously didn’t get the “ never complain, never explain” memo. Some valuable learning perhaps......don’t do business with “friends” and there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Didn’t hear much about personal responsibility. My advice would be if you want to open up your life , check for skeletons in your cupboard first and have a clean out and always get robust legal advice on business transactions....simps. Oh, and stop it with the gift hinting and gift grabbing.....you can enable it certainly - as there will be people who want to contribute... but when it becomes front and centre ( and it has) expect a reaction.

 

[peony89]

Mandy was called for work/work practice/volunteer work by Stephanie. That is an acceptable reason to cross borders within Schengen area. She needs to be quarantined until she gets her negative test results, another quarantine is waiting for her when she returns home. She's following the rules, distancing herself and when not possible wearing a mask. It takes only a couple of days to get the results, in the next vlog she's probably not wearing a mask anymore.

I'm sure everyone is sick of the mask discussion but wearing a mask and distancing within the same room is not enough. Mandy should have stayed quarantined in a separate area of the chateau with no contact with the other residents until a second negative covid test (after a number of days) or a period of 10 days had elapsed.

But SJ doesn't give a damn about covid regulations as she proved with the Christmas debacle.