The Archie Battersbee case

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So she is trying to imply the scans used in court aren't of Archie wtf?
 
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I never screenshot but she commented to someone that the courts had stopped them using the go fund me money (I dont know what truth is in that but the comment was from her Hollie Dance profile), she said she'd paid 10k in legal fees and that if any money remained it would be used to give him the best send off and help them heal.
I've seen her comment the same thing in different wording a few times now. This is on the archies army's page.


I've just quickly gone to look to see if I could find the comments and came across this, slightly different wording and she doesn't mention the helping them heal but I have definitely seen her say exactly that in a comment reply.
Long screenshots but I wanted to make sure it had her name at the top and she mentions the money near the end....
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Wonder why she's saying the courts have stopped her accessing the GFM ? you can transer the funds anytime you like without public knowledge ,even pause and restart or extend the target ...Help them heal :rolleyes:
 
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So she is trying to imply the scans used in court aren't of Archie wtf?
I'm baffled by these claims about the MRIs and number of teeth, because teeth aren't visible on an MRI due to their high mineral content (AFAIA - happy to be corrected!)

She had previously tried to say the scans weren't his because his name wasn't visible (explained in the court documents that it had been cropped out), but the teeth thing wasn't addressed. Very strange.
 
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Wonder why she's saying the courts have stopped her accessing the GFM ? you can transer the funds anytime you like without public knowledge ,even pause and restart or extend the target ...Help them heal :rolleyes:
Perhaps she thinks it makes her sound better and less greedy?

There is people on the page saying they would donate to help her get through things financially as they can’t be working right now and she said no she’s fine.

I don’t know, I have a child in my family who spends a lot of time in hospital due to a life long condition and the idea of their Mom taking pictures of him unconscious and streaming live on Facebook from his bedside gives me the ick. I feel for the family, I really do but why do they need to create a circus? Do they think encouraging the army to go to court Wednesday just because it’s a public hearing will change the outcome? Meanwhile Archie has no dignity whatsoever.
 
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Also that post from facebook "why did the gynecologist tell me his sedation took only 40 minutes..." :censored:
 
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Perhaps she thinks it makes her sound better and less greedy?

There is people on the page saying they would donate to help her get through things financially as they can’t be working right now and she said no she’s fine.

I don’t know, I have a child in my family who spends a lot of time in hospital due to a life long condition and the idea of their Mom taking pictures of him unconscious and streaming live on Facebook from his bedside gives me the ick. I feel for the family, I really do but why do they need to create a circus? Do they think encouraging the army to go to court Wednesday just because it’s a public hearing will change the outcome? Meanwhile Archie has no dignity whatsoever.
Yeah it’s something I wouldn’t do , she must be getting a lot of questions about the GFM.
 
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Wonder why she's saying the courts have stopped her accessing the GFM ? you can transer the funds anytime you like without public knowledge ,even pause and restart or extend the target ...Help them heal :rolleyes:
Her story constantly changes, I don't have time to search back through her comments to find where she's said some of this stuff but I've noticed a pattern of her saying something, being called out and backtracking before changing her story again.
They have a GFM and a Just giving, one is for legal fees and one for medical treatment. Does JG work the same way as GFM?
There is a young boy in the middle of all this who is being given zero dignity through his passing by the one person who is supposed to protect him the most 💔
 
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Anaesthesiologist? It’s clearly not a gynaecologist 🙄

This is the problem with ‘modern medicine’. Bloody google and Grey’s Anatomy has made it that the below average intelligence folk actually believe they have a grasp on medicine. The mother doesn’t understand the difference between coma and brain dead. She thinks he’s going to wake up and he’s not. FFS, there’s a pic of him bloated and she’s saying he’s feeding well and gaining weight. The reality is the opposite.

I’m mortified by this growing trend of of facebook huns who join these armies believing they know better than doctors and judges. “You’re a pillow of strength Hollie” or “Prey for Archie”. How many other parents have been in the exact same situation and didn’t accuse the hospital, didn’t clog up the justice system, didn’t run to the media or start numerous go funds me? They are the ones that have my respect and sympathy.
 
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So she is trying to imply the scans used in court aren't of Archie wtf?
That‘s exactly the same as Alfie Evans, isn’t it.
As awful as these situations are, there does seem to be a playbook to follow.
I wonder how many of The Army flitted from Charlie Gard to Alfie Evans to this one?
 
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Anaesthesiologist? It’s clearly not a gynaecologist 🙄

This is the problem with ‘modern medicine’. Bloody google and Grey’s Anatomy has made it that the below average intelligence folk actually believe they have a grasp on medicine. The mother doesn’t understand the difference between coma and brain dead. She thinks he’s going to wake up and he’s not. FFS, there’s a pic of him bloated and she’s saying he’s feeding well and gaining weight. The reality is the opposite.

I’m mortified by this growing trend of of facebook huns who join these armies believing they know better than doctors and judges. “You’re a pillow of strength Hollie” or “Prey for Archie”. How many other parents have been in the exact same situation and didn’t accuse the hospital, didn’t clog up the justice system, didn’t run to the media or start numerous go funds me? They are the ones that have my respect and sympathy.
I shouldn’t laugh with pillow of strength got me 😂

It’s sad because they have created this huge circus around Archie and they may live to regret it.
 
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Anaesthesiologist? It’s clearly not a gynaecologist 🙄

This is the problem with ‘modern medicine’. Bloody google and Grey’s Anatomy has made it that the below average intelligence folk actually believe they have a grasp on medicine. The mother doesn’t understand the difference between coma and brain dead. She thinks he’s going to wake up and he’s not. FFS, there’s a pic of him bloated and she’s saying he’s feeding well and gaining weight. The reality is the opposite.

I’m mortified by this growing trend of of facebook huns who join these armies believing they know better than doctors and judges. “You’re a pillow of strength Hollie” or “Prey for Archie”. How many other parents have been in the exact same situation and didn’t accuse the hospital, didn’t clog up the justice system, didn’t run to the media or start numerous go funds me? They are the ones that have my respect and sympathy.
A long time ago, I used to work for a Consultant and you could literally see their hackles rise when some said ‘my next door neighbour says …’.
at this point you would be eyeing up the examining couch to see if you could fit underneath it.
Very politely they would ask, your neighbour? Did they spend 5 at Doctor school? Did they spend 6 years at Consultant school? Have they examined you? No? So why do you believe what they say over me?
I think Social Media and Dr Google would have finished them off completely.
 
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On the facebook page the daughter in law made a post with the profile pics and names of people from the Dignity For All group. The mob were foaming at the mouth + spewing bile - "named and shamed!" "Vile people!" and one of Hollie's mates threw out the R word. A lot of posters flagged that up and agreed that it was too far. Hollie defended her mate claiming "she wouldn't have used it in an offensive way as she's got kids with brain damage." 🙄 That's the logic that the hospital and courts are up against.
 
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I think Hollie’s claim abut the gynaecologist is to suggest that Archie has been treated by the incorrect type of doctor with no expertise in this sort of situation.

She’s a 46 year old mum of 3, she definitely knew what a gynaecologist is.

I'm baffled by these claims about the MRIs and number of teeth, because teeth aren't visible on an MRI due to their high mineral content (AFAIA - happy to be corrected!)

She had previously tried to say the scans weren't his because his name wasn't visible (explained in the court documents that it had been cropped out), but the teeth thing wasn't addressed. Very strange.
Teeth do show in MRIs.

I think it’s just desperate denial, the scans unequivocally show that his brain is in a terrible state and she can’t accept that, so her only other option is to deny they’re his.
 
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I think Hollie’s claim abut the gynaecologist is to suggest that Archie has been treated by the incorrect type of doctor with no expertise in this sort of situation.

She’s a 46 year old mum of 3, she definitely knew what a gynaecologist is.



Teeth do show in MRIs.

I think it’s just desperate denial, the scans unequivocally show that his brain is in a terrible state and she can’t accept that, so her only other option is to deny they’re his.

Do they really??

I know you can use specialised techniques to visualise the teeth in MRI data, but I didn't think they would show up in a standard set when you're examining brain structure in this case.
 
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@grampositive With regards to just counting teeth, it would show, even if just as black marks on the image. But it depends on whether his mouth area was imaged at all.

I imagine it was, or the mum wouldn’t have bothered mentioning teeth.
 
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A long time ago, I used to work for a Consultant and you could literally see their hackles rise when some said ‘my next door neighbour says …’.
at this point you would be eyeing up the examining couch to see if you could fit underneath it.
Very politely they would ask, your neighbour? Did they spend 5 at Doctor school? Did they spend 6 years at Consultant school? Have they examined you? No? So why do you believe what they say over me?
I think Social Media and Dr Google would have finished them off completely.
My husband is a doctor. He hates it - mainly for this reason. He says the majority of his patients now have a completely fixed agenda when they come in and won't be moved on it. They aren't interested in his medical opinion, they want the drug they've read about online, or some treatment that's still in the experimental stages. The newest one is demanding the HRT that renowned medical expert Davina McCall says they should be entitled to.

I remember Facebook huns were saying the same about Alfie Evans. I think in his case, his brain was actually liquefying, yet they were still thinking he could make some miraculous recovery. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Maybe it's time these cases were anonymised, to spare everyone from the media circus. The photo of Archie with the MP and his mum grinning is just unbelievable.
 
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My husband is a doctor. He hates it - mainly for this reason. He says the majority of his patients now have a completely fixed agenda when they come in and won't be moved on it. They aren't interested in his medical opinion, they want the drug they've read about online, or some treatment that's still in the experimental stages. The newest one is demanding the HRT that renowned medical expert Davina McCall says they should be entitled to.

I remember Facebook huns were saying the same about Alfie Evans. I think in his case, his brain was actually liquefying, yet they were still thinking he could make some miraculous recovery. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Maybe it's time these cases were anonymised, to spare everyone from the media circus. The photo of Archie with the MP and his mum grinning is just unbelievable.
I think they start out anonymous … its just that the anonymity is waived.
 
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